golfer06 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 i think that most of these posts are correct to some degree. it depends on everyone's tastes. for me i want to see sex. but i like to see something comparable to what i would do. although i find women's bodies to be lovely there is only a certain amount of time that i could spend watching a girl masturbate. in clara's case she may be disappointed as many will be able to watch her bate for free on cb & not bother with vh. others may like vh showing regular sex & not bother with cb. the result could be a loss of $ from both sites. also if i was trying to make $ on cb & waited until i got tokens i would lose interest quickly. imo there have been some decent people on vh that were ruined by spending so much time on cb. nadia/brian, kitty/zack, stella/stephen, kiki/mike, all were couples that had good sex when left to themselves but were hit & miss when camming. kiki was 1 of the hottest girls on vh imo but how could anyone give tokens to watch her slow dancing with clothe on with whomever for a couple of hour waiting for something to happen is beyond my comprehensive abilities. stella had some nice sex including hot 3somes when not camming but the endless fake bating & fake orgasms were unwatchable & took so much time that it was ridiculous & made me forget about her after a while. any people that do the same will have no energy or time left to do anything on vh which could result in even fewer views & less $. the last 2 or 3 apts that have been mostly camshows to be honest i haven't watched them & don't even know who the people are. that's enough rambling i guess for now. i guess we'll see soon enough what happens. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrxyz Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 When a webcam women put the red vibrator sex toy up herself, like on mostly cb . I'll go somewhere else because that is the very worst play acting ever. Who would ever believe it's for real. Like an old fool like Jerry Lee Lewis said just the other day, " a whole lot of faking going on." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt0na_O7 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, Clara said: are you preparing criticism?) I've read almost all the posts since last night. Prepare for criticism? For what? I don't want to criticize you anymore. Because you don't look like the Clara I knew and loved two years ago. Two years ago: - Clara could be happy with Stas even if she made less money. - Clara spent her free time on much more useful activities. painting, reading books, sports. - Clara was not constantly trying to expand her relationship with Stas. - Clara was more tolerant of criticism. - Clara described voyeurism as a pleasure; she did not make an effort to become a porn star. Now, one of the memories: Two years ago, I made a very innocent request from you on camera. And you refused. I wasn't upset about that. I just wanted to see your sincerity. After two years, I'm not going to ask you more for TOKEN (MONEY) again. Because I respect my own personality. Making a lot of money is not being very happy. easy earned money is easy to spend, its value is always lower. I'm sorry about Stas because I don't think he agreed with the CB. Please stop trying to stretch this guy. If Stas doesn't react to many of your disapproved behaviors, it's because he loves you very much. Please give it more value. Instead of appearing in a giant brothel, earn less with honor and enjoy your love. I wish I could tell you to marry Stas, but I can't tell you anymore. Because a marriage based on behavior stretching and abuse cannot be successful. it is no different from a trading company. A straight line is not drawn with a curved ruler. Let life always give you a ruler where you can draw perfect lines. If you are still determined to join the CB, here are a few tips: - Always allow masturbator comments. - copy these comments to a file once in a while, When finished, translate and read with google translate Edited July 23, 2019 by alt0na_O7 advice 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsdothis Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 19 hours ago, babayaga said: Yesss 🙂 have you clara videos? 18 hours ago, RapStar48 said: sure you are dear 🙂 my heart would go out when i see notification from you 18 hours ago, alt0na_O7 said: I'm waiting for this 🧛♂️ X100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsdothis Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 16 hours ago, jabbath1987 said: Most places with webcamming on the site do not stay long. Mostly places do this when they do not make enough money anymore. Usually after some time they leave. Longest places online all never do webcamming. Just saying. 😇 Jabba, no one respects your right to express your opinion on this site more than me and you've certainly expressed it long and hard about your dislike of this subject. You have 30+ other VH apts about which to say what you like or dislike to your heart's content. But, as a favor to me, please, leave Clara alone. Let her do what she wants without having to read your negative comments about what she's doing. I would greatly appreciate it, Jabba. Thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsdothis Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 14 hours ago, Amy3 said: There is not just one reason people why watch camshows. It’s fantasy for many and so it doesn’t have to be real. It’s a feeling that you’re making s girl cum with your coin and effort that fulfills the fantasy. Plus, there are many different kinds of cam shows. I would argue that the camshow people pay for on VHTV is essentially the same. The subs views are the same as tokens and the the more tokens, sorry views, the tenants gets the more likely they are to be steered into making the tippers happy. The only real difference is that the VHTV tippers can’t immediately get what they want on demand and the tenants don’t interact directly with the cams. Nonetheless, it’s a role play not that much different then any other role play. Of course, some do it more then others, but if we’re being honest they are all doing it for money and the sex is what earns their keep. VHTV steered this genre into what it is. Being a voyeur tenant is a sex working job. Don’t kid yourself. 11 hours ago, Amy3 said: It’s the same freaking thing. @Clara Don’t listen to these guys and do your thing. Your not somehow a lesser tenants because of camming. All tenants are webcamming sex on VHTV even if people here don’t want to believe it. BRILLIANT!!! (as is often said in Britain) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave 27 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 55 minutes ago, letsdothis said: Jabba, no one respects your right to express your opinion on this site more than me and you've certainly expressed it long and hard about your dislike of this subject. You have 30+ other VH apts about which to say what you like or dislike to your heart's content. But, as a favor to me, please, leave Clara alone. Let her do what she wants without having to read your negative comments about what she's doing. I would greatly appreciate it, Jabba. Thank you. Re:Clara and her "new venture": She is obviously deeply in love with Stas and why she wants this CB thing is her business. Foxy and Nastya are a couple who obviously love each other deeply and they announced their mutual feelings,decided to leave VH and seem to be quite happy. The point I am making is that where a couple genuinely love each other why be involved in this set up. Perverts like myself should be observing lust in operation not genuine love. However if the two of you are comfortable with it who am I.JMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clara Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 4 hours ago, alt0na_O7 said: I've read almost all the posts since last night. Prepare for criticism? For what? I don't want to criticize you anymore. Because you don't look like the Clara I knew and loved two years ago. Two years ago: - Clara could be happy with Stas even if she made less money. - Clara spent her free time on much more useful activities. painting, reading books, sports. - Clara was not constantly trying to expand her relationship with Stas. - Clara was more tolerant of criticism. - Clara described voyeurism as a pleasure; she did not make an effort to become a porn star. Now, one of the memories: Two years ago, I made a very innocent request from you on camera. And you refused. I wasn't upset about that. I just wanted to see your sincerity. After two years, I'm not going to ask you more for TOKEN (MONEY) again. Because I respect my own personality. Making a lot of money is not being very happy. easy earned money is easy to spend, its value is always lower. I'm sorry about Stas because I don't think he agreed with the CB. Please stop trying to stretch this guy. If Stas doesn't react to many of your disapproved behaviors, it's because he loves you very much. Please give it more value. Instead of appearing in a giant brothel, earn less with honor and enjoy your love. I wish I could tell you to marry Stas, but I can't tell you anymore. Because a marriage based on behavior stretching and abuse cannot be successful. it is no different from a trading company. A straight line is not drawn with a curved ruler. Let life always give you a ruler where you can draw perfect lines. If you are still determined to join the CB, here are a few tips: - Always allow masturbator comments. - copy these comments to a file once in a while, When finished, translate and read with google translate Altona, you know perfectly well that I always treat you well. even when offended by you, we still communicated well afterwards. but how can you talk about what I do or don't do more if you don't watch me. I train in the gym with a trainer, I do stretching, yoga, I train in twerking, I still read books using an iPhone application (I even read aloud sometimes!), I try to read in English, I listen to audio books on personal growth, I cook delicious food for beloved man, doing household chores, spending time in family and harmony. and I want to further develop in my direction and transform my life as I want. if you do not know what you are talking about, then it is better to remain silent. no offense. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt0na_O7 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Clara said: Altona, you know perfectly well that I always treat you well. even when offended by you, we still communicated well afterwards. but how can you talk about what I do or don't do more if you don't watch me. I train in the gym with a trainer, I do stretching, yoga, I train in twerking, I still read books using an iPhone application (I even read aloud sometimes!), I try to read in English, I listen to audio books on personal growth, I cook delicious food for beloved man, doing household chores, spending time in family and harmony. and I want to further develop in my direction and transform my life as I want. if you do not know what you are talking about, then it is better to remain silent. no offense. You will benefit from the good things you do. Of course, you will also suffer the bad things you do. no one here knows what a participant is doing outside. If you are happy that way I'm going underground with my damn protection instinct. (I'm still waiting for your CB link.) 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sereno Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 We all need to take a chill pill. Clara is a big girl with big girl panties, and she does not need anyone telling her what to do, one way or the other. The same way even I don't have the right to tell anyone what to do, even as I post this. We are all entitled to our own opinions. Remember these are always based on our own beliefs and colored by our own upbringing, circumstances and life experiences. So everyone can and will have/see/interpret/feel/ like/dislike/love/hate differently. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clara Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 5 hours ago, alt0na_O7 said: You will benefit from the good things you do. Of course, you will also suffer the bad things you do. no one here knows what a participant is doing outside. If you are happy that way I'm going underground with my damn protection instinct. (I'm still waiting for your CB link.) ❤️💋 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clara Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 2 hours ago, sereno said: We all need to take a chill pill. Clara is a big girl with big girl panties, and she does not need anyone telling her what to do, one way or the other. The same way even I don't have the right to tell anyone what to do, even as I post this. We are all entitled to our own opinions. Remember these are always based on our own beliefs and colored by our own upbringing, circumstances and life experiences. So everyone can and will have/see/interpret/feel/ like/dislike/love/hate differently. Thank you a lot) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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