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3 minutes ago, SierraTM said:

This can't be because if you consider Big Brother to be reality TV, than RLC is reality pornography.

This is the logical association if we follow your logic.

No.  If we follow my logic RLC is also reality TV, just uncensored. 

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5 minutes ago, SierraTM said:

I think it is pointless to argue on with you, just like previously, you are always insistent that you are always correct.

If I as a fucking whiner can tell you Alla, whom I whined about, was better than Cindy, I believe I have no logical sense to contradict myself that bad right now.

Alla was weird, that is the furthest you can criticise her in her first month. She delivered her 'sexual content' while hiding from the cameras.

Cindy delivers nothing of such. All Cindy delivers is that she is consistently making good use of the space in the kitchen and in the living room.

that's what I say, your do nothing cursor is very poorly calibrate :biggrin:

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il y a 6 minutes, Hornygirl a dit :

No.  If we follow my logic RLC is also reality TV, just uncensored. 

No, in some countries, their contestants are not allowed to have sex on TV.

And RLC's tenants are not contestants. They don't compete on anything and don't have to 'survive' as such. They can rot on the bed all day and get paid. Which might be what you want the tenants to do.

Edit: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/love-island/index.html

This is real reality TV, where what happens on set will lead on to real life and heavily reported on tabloids.

Please do not compare what is on RLC to reality TV shows like Big Brother or Love Island. People can die after competing in the competition, people's lives can be messed up after joining the competition.

In RLC, we don't see that. In fact, the girls come back one after another and make their euros happily. They hide their personal info and RLC help them to hide it unless you manage to chance on their social media accounts.

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36 minutes ago, Hornygirl said:

If by  "Real life" you mean what the girls would be doing if they hadn't been flown across Europe and paid to be in a house with cameras then of course it isn't real life.  But I believe we get a very real and interesting view into how a group of girls, many of whom are strangers to each other, are thrown into a house together to negotiate all those interactions with the added aspect of knowing they are being viewed around the world.  As long as they are real people interacting and not acting a script - and I don't want to get side tracked into how much input RLC has to what they do - then that is real life and as a voyeur I love it. 

You should have discarded this fantasy at the latest when hardly a week passes without the girls dancing half-naked on the tables with bunny ears or or angel wings. GOV is currently nothing more than a bunch of girls who are paid to pretend to be lesbians and to hold their genitals into the camera as often as possible. 

If you really think that GOV is worth anything in terms of voyuerism you really have to open your eyes. GOV is nothing else than a cheap show without real content featuring a group of girls who don't give a shit about the Viewers. They want to make as much money as they can as simply as possible. 

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il y a 1 minute, Hornygirl a dit :

Hence my comment about how RLC is the uncensored version!

No either you are getting me wrong or you are redacting my comment and using what is useful to you.

Since in some countries, their contestants are not allowed to have sex on TV nor masturbate on TV, they are not the censored version of RLC because the show is not intended to show sexual content! These shows are competitions and allow public voting. They are what they are, and RLC is a pornography website. And in some seasons of Big Brother UK, there isn't any nudity or censored nudity and viewership remain relatively high because of the celebrity/model contestants. We are not comparing apple with apple.

 

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4 minutes ago, SierraTM said:

No either you are getting me wrong or you are redacting my comment and using what is useful to you.

Since in some countries, their contestants are not allowed to have sex on TV nor masturbate on TV, they are not the censored version of RLC because the show is not intended to show sexual content! These shows are competitions and allow public voting. They are what they are, and RLC is a pornography website. And in some seasons of Big Brother UK, there isn't any nudity or censored nudity and viewership remain relatively high because of the celebrity/model contestants. We are not comparing apple with apple.

 

But the fact those things can't be shown on TV doesn't mean they don't happen, they are simply edited out. If we had access to the raw feeds we would see plenty of masturbation and possibly even sex. 

I think we are going to have to agree to disagree.  You are obviously determined to put these two things into different categories in your mind, whereas for me they both involve cameras watching people interacting together in slightly artificially constructed situation and so they are basically the same differing only in the level of censorship. 

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il y a 23 minutes, Alladino a dit :

You should have discarded this fantasy at the latest when hardly a week passes without the girls dancing half-naked on the tables with bunny ears or or angel wings. GOV is currently nothing more than a bunch of girls who are paid to pretend to be lesbians and to hold their genitals into the camera as often as possible. 

If you really think that GOV is worth anything in terms of voyuerism you really have to open your eyes. GOV is nothing else than a cheap show without real content featuring a group of girls who don't give a shit about the Viewers. They want to make as much money as they can as simply as possible. 

This is true but can you really blame the girls? They are here on a job and are paid to do their jobs.

I am happy for each of the them to suck RLC dry as long as they provide the entertainment.

But again, you know I am not against the GOV concept, I am just against girls who do not provide sexual content.

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il y a 10 minutes, Hornygirl a dit :

But the fact those things can't be shown on TV doesn't mean they don't happen, they are simply edited out. If we had access to the raw feeds we would see plenty of masturbation and possibly even sex. 

I think we are going to have to agree to disagree.  You are obviously determined to put these two things into different categories in your mind, whereas for me they both involve cameras watching people interacting together in slightly artificially constructed situation and so they are basically the same differing only in the level of censorship. 

No what I mean is that, in some countries, they signed contracts and one of the terms was that they could not have sex on TV, be it covered or uncovered. In some countries, the male contestants can't even expose their genitals.

So the intention of both Big Brother or Love Island, is vastly differently from RLC. And on both Big Brother & Love Island, the personal information of each contestant is either exposed to the public or followed up closely by tabloids. This is what really defines Reality TV.

On RLC, for example, they don't expose Monica's personal details to their subscribers. I believe Monica will ban anyone from following her social media account if she knows they are RLC subscribers.

On Big Brother/Love Island, your personal details/employment history/family background will be made public once you join the competition. This is not the case for RLC's tenants.

I understand you are trying to draw similarities but the fact is, they are very different.

One test you can try doing to prove your point. On your own verified Facebook account (if you have), put up the link of RLC member page (provide your access details) and ask all your family and friends if they think you are watching porn or reality TV.

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23 minutes ago, SierraTM said:

This is true but can you really blame the girls? They are here on a job and are paid to do their jobs.

I am happy for each of the them to suck RLC dry as long as they provide the entertainment.

But again, you know I am not against the GOV concept, I am just against girls who do not provide sexual content.

 

What I find so unfortunate about your position is that you do not realize that our views are not contradictory. There would also be sexual content if the Girls would really lived there, all without any show. Sure, you need a little patience and sometime nothing will happen, but a more realistic approach also has would give more excitement than these superficial shows without any emotion and without any life. 

Some girls from the past were much more involved here. Especially girls like Sara and Stella, but also Nicole were perfect. This Apartments Need more guys, that would be a first step. 

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1 hour ago, moos54 said:

Objectively, tell me what did Alla do during her first month in the project? I can tell you, nothing much more than what Cindy did, however you consider Cindy to be a do nothing but not Alla, I think your cursor is not really calibrate well :biggrin:

Alla masturbated under covers, in the bath, and showed more nudity earlier on. I love when they share atleast some degree of intimacy with us. For example Dana, she gave more to me than Cindy has done yet. Even though Cindy has likely given us much more time already in sexy underwear and nice clothes, and her exercising almost every day, it lacks these tiny moments of intimacy that Alla or Dana shared with us. I guess it all depends on what we like more.

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il y a 1 minute, Alladino a dit :

What I find so unfortunate about your position is that you do not realize that our views are not contradictory. There would also be sexual content if the Girls would really lived there, all without any show. Sure, you need a little patience and sometime nothing will happen, but a more realistic approach also has would give more excitement than these superficial shows without any emotion and without any life. 

Some girls from the past were much more involved here. Especially girls like Sara and Stella, but also Nicole were perfect. This Apartments Need more guys, that would be a first step. 

No no I think we both want the girls to do more and provide realistic content and also sexual content but I don't really quite agree the GOV concept is an absolute failure.

I think the GOV concept is an alternative to the couples apartment or Leora's apartment but after these few months, I can see your frustrations.

I agree the apartments need more guys, I always believe having guys will help the girls open up but the girls have to be willing to interact with the guys in the first place.

 

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