ed2 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, SierraTM said: 25 minutes ago, ed2 said: Trump has in practice concided the election, he started the transition team with the Biden staff a few days after the result was clear. People have to stop taking too seriously what this guy is saying (or should I say spewing), and look at what he is actually doing instead. That goes for his whole presidency. Is it a typo? Do you mean conceded? If you are trying to say he has conceded the election, then nope he has not. Trump, Still Defiant, Says He’ll Give Up Power If Electoral College Backs Biden WWW.BLOOMBERG.COM President Donald Trump said he’ll relinquish power if the Electoral College affirms Joe Biden’s win, but he signaled he may never formally... Quote President Donald Trump said he’ll relinquish power if the Electoral College affirms Joe Biden’s win, but he signaled he may never formally concede defeat, and may skip the Democrat’s inauguration. In his exchange with reporters on Thanksgiving, Trump was pressed on whether he would ever acknowledge defeat, and said it would “be a very hard thing to concede” -- even if the Electoral College confirms Biden’s victory. “If they do, they’ve made a mistake,” he said. “This election was a fraud.” A true loser would never admit to losing. If he had graciously concede defeat & sent his congratulations to Joe Biden, then I believe at least 20% of those who voted against him would think better of him as a person. Unfortunately, you and I know what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Why don't you read previous comments so that you know what I was talking about? I wasn't even talking about Joe Biden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed2 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ridgerunner said: Why don't you read previous comments so that you know what I was talking about? I wasn't even talking about Joe Biden. Kamala Harris even less than Joe Biden. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, ed2 said: Why should he concede an election that was stolen from him? He should leave office on Jan.20 without ever conceding, and then continue efforts to expose the fraud that took place in the 2020 election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SierraTM Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 il y a 2 minutes, ed2 a dit : Trump has in practice concided the election, he started the transition team with the Biden staff a few days after the result was clear. People have to stop need taking too seriously what this guy is saying (or should I say spewing), and look at what he is actually doing instead. That goes for his whole presidency. He is the former POTUS, he cannot 'in practice' or informally concede or not concede to a national election result. He is the former POTUS, he cannot expect people to take him for a joke all the time and therefore, he can say anything he likes. And there are people who take him seriously and buy in to his lies and fabricated claims. These people then begin to spread what they believe to those around them. If you are Tom, DIck or Harry who runs a diner, then there is no need for anyone to take your false claims seriously. But he is the elected and former President of the United States. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Just now, ed2 said: Kamala Harris even less than Joe Biden. You still don't even know what I was talking about. If you took time to read the comment that I was giving an answer to you would see that I wasn't talking about Joe or Kamala. I was talking in general about Democrats and Republicans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, SierraTM said: He is the former POTUS, he cannot 'in practice' or informally concede or not concede to a national election result. He is the former POTUS, he cannot expect people to take him for a joke all the time and therefore, he can say anything he likes. And there are people who take him seriously and buy in to his lies and fabricated claims. These people then begin to spread what they believe to those around them. If you are Tom, DIck or Harry who runs a diner, then there is no need for anyone to take your false claims seriously. But he is the elected and former President of the United States. But they are not false claims. Future investigations will eventually reveal the truth of those claims. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed2 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ridgerunner said: You still don't even know what I was talking about. If you took time to read the comment that I was giving an answer to you would see that I wasn't talking about Joe or Kamala. I was talking in general about Democrats and Republicans. And wich of them have anything to do with progressive socialism? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SierraTM Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 il y a 1 minute, Ridgerunner a dit : But they are not false claims. Future investigations will eventually reveal the truth of those claims. Yep the truth is Trump takes most of the donations for the lawsuits to repay his own debts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, ed2 said: And wich of them have anything to do with progressive socialism? Do you know how to read? I told you before that I was not even talking about them when I made the comment about "Any Republican being better than a liberal progressive socialist Democrat." But since you asked, I would definitely include Kamala Harris as being a liberal progressive socialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, SierraTM said: Yep the truth is Trump takes most of the donations for the lawsuits to repay his own debts. And Joe Biden takes money from his family's corrupt business dealings in foreign countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed2 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Ridgerunner said: Do you know how to read? I told you before that I was not even talking about them when I made the comment about "Any Republican being better than a liberal progressive socialist Democrat." But since you asked, I would definitely include Kamala Harris as being a liberal progressive socialist. The so-called "left" side in the USA is all about identity politics, hundred percent, you are so stuck in it that it is sad to watch. But it has nothing to do with socialism. Socialism is about ownership of labour, and distribution of wealth. The key word is economic exploitation. Karl Marx for example heavily criticised feminists for their focus on identity politics. It is a blind track that just turns worker against worker. And that is exactly what the Democrats are doing. They have a narrative where white are suppressing black, men are suppressing women, straight gay, and so forth, but they are taking poverty and class completely out of the equation. Quite paradoxical, Trump has probably done more for the working class than Obama managed to. What you call "the progressive left" in the USA is nothing but post-modernistic neo-liberalists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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