MARCO84381 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 I pay a vhtv subscription for couples to live and love each other naturally, we end up with pornstars who show on chaturbate ... in short, I cancel my subscription. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 3 hours ago, MARCO84381 said: I pay a vhtv subscription for couples to live and love each other naturally, we end up with pornstars who show on chaturbate ... in short, I cancel my subscription. one apartment with porn stars is something I'm waiting for a long time. For some reason ( I reckon it's money ) hvtv didn't decide to open any. Maybe in the future? Who knows. Anyway, if you want to cancel your subscription because of porn stars, I would like you to give me link to apartment in which they are, cause I can't see any on the list. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, waldi said: one apartment with porn stars is something I'm waiting for a long time. For some reason ( I reckon it's money ) hvtv didn't decide to open any. Maybe in the future? Who knows. Anyway, if you want to cancel your subscription because of porn stars, I would like you to give me link to apartment in which they are, cause I can't see any on the list. Agree one or two places could be interesting and add more diversity. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfer06 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 i'm curious about something. why after finding out that sex has become the main activity in most of the apts do some still expect a "real voyeur site"? look someplace else. the vast majority want to see sex. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyeur House TV Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 On 26.03.2018 at 4:44 AM, mic351 said: I think it might be a good idea to hire someone who could see or advise on the cams in the apartment being placed for the optimum viewing pleasure of your subscribers. One of the major gripes I hear about VH is the placement of the cams. For instance, Cam 1 in Ray and Polly's apartment is differentially poorly placed. The cams in Zoi and Tim's apartment are even worse. I really can't say a lot for the the cams in Candy and Dean's apartment either. And I really don't even need to get into the high bedroom cams in Dave and Carrie's and Clara and Stash's apartments. Darcie and Stiffler's living room cams need some work also.. Your placement tech, (for want of a better title) would get a photo layout of the apartment before the cams went in. Then your managers or techs would install the cams according to his placement and instructions. At the risk of sounding like I'm plugging another site, I'm not, the cam placement over at RLC is far superior to the placement here. Either they have more experience or they have someone who knows where to put the cams. I am a small business owner and that being said, when I see someone has a better idea on how to run my type of business, I have no problem following suit. It simply makes good business sense. Besides I pride myself on never having an original thought.. You guys seem to be growing by leaps and bounds, and in my opinion, deservedly so. I just think you would get and retain more subscribers with better cam placement. Moreover, the expense would be negligible and the results would be far, far, worth the small expense.. Just my 2 cents but it might be worth considering. Thank you for drawing our attention to the cameras arrangement. We are doing our best to make the content better. That's why your opinion is so important for us. We would be very much obliged to you if you can give us an advice how we could improve the cams placement in the pointed apartments. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopscotch24 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 On 4/2/2018 at 12:08 PM, golfer06 said: i'm curious about something. why after finding out that sex has become the main activity in most of the apts do some still expect a "real voyeur site"? look someplace else. the vast majority want to see sex. I don't think people mind sex, it's just not very voyeuristic when it is a "porno" performance for the cameras. Voyeurism is about seeing what you are not supposed to see, when things are done with the cameras and audience in mind it loses it's exciting voyeuristic feeling and becomes like ordinary porno. VH is still great, but it often doesn't feel very voyeuristic, and that's Ok but the website does have "voyeur" in the name, sometimes I wish it wasn't so obvious that the participants are doing things for the cameras and deliberately being naked all the time, it feels like I am watching their sex job instead of their real authentic sex lives. It's a difficult balance though, I am sure that if it was exactly as I would like it to be, then others would complain that it's boring or something. But I think the voyeur audience largely doesn't join sites like this for these reasons. I still enjoy it though, not complaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfer06 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 1 minute ago, hopscotch24 said: I don't think people mind sex, it's just not very voyeuristic when it is a "porno" performance for the cameras. Voyeurism is about seeing what you are not supposed to see, when things are done with the cameras and audience in mind it loses it's exciting voyeuristic feeling and becomes like ordinary porno. VH is still great, but it often doesn't feel very voyeuristic, and that's Ok but the website does have "voyeur" in the name, sometimes I wish it wasn't so obvious that the participants are doing things for the cameras and deliberately being naked all the time, it feels like I am watching their sex job instead of their real authentic sex lives. It's a difficult balance though, I am sure that if it was exactly as I would like it to be, then others would complain that it's boring or something. But I think the voyeur audience largely doesn't join sites like this for these reasons. I still enjoy it though, not complaining. these sites probably did start out as voyeur in a truer sense. but once the site management found that more money could be made with more sex they went in that direction. as for myself i found the sites while looking for porn. if it was just everyday life with sex & nudity once in a gr8 while i would watch it for a little while & if nothing happened i'd go on to something else. my comment was that the sites are not going to revert to less sex & nudity anytime soon as they are making $ with what they are doing now. so if anyone wants to get the old "real life voyeur" experience they will probably have to look elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 22 minutes ago, hopscotch24 said: I don't think people mind sex, it's just not very voyeuristic when it is a "porno" performance for the cameras. Voyeurism is about seeing what you are not supposed to see, when things are done with the cameras and audience in mind it loses it's exciting voyeuristic feeling and becomes like ordinary porno. VH is still great, but it often doesn't feel very voyeuristic, and that's Ok but the website does have "voyeur" in the name, sometimes I wish it wasn't so obvious that the participants are doing things for the cameras and deliberately being naked all the time, it feels like I am watching their sex job instead of their real authentic sex lives. It's a difficult balance though, I am sure that if it was exactly as I would like it to be, then others would complain that it's boring or something. But I think the voyeur audience largely doesn't join sites like this for these reasons. I still enjoy it though, not complaining. pure voyeur site like for instant peepholecam which still offers hidden cams, ( something for hardcore voyeurs ) is dying. I read on their forum, that Kevin thinks about business similar to vhtv because current model isn't able to attract customers. This kind of businesses is like any others, to exist, must develop and change, simply because audience gets bored very quickly. I don't want to say it has to go towards so called "live porn", but so far it seems to be right direction and it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopscotch24 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 31 minutes ago, golfer06 said: these sites probably did start out as voyeur in a truer sense. but once the site management found that more money could be made with more sex they went in that direction. as for myself i found the sites while looking for porn. if it was just everyday life with sex & nudity once in a gr8 while i would watch it for a little while & if nothing happened i'd go on to something else. my comment was that the sites are not going to revert to less sex & nudity anytime soon as they are making $ with what they are doing now. so if anyone wants to get the old "real life voyeur" experience they will probably have to look elsewhere. You're right, and nobody is saying they should have less sex, plenty of people have lots of sex. I think it's more about the performance nature of it, and the deliberate permanent nudity, it stops seeming like real life. You also have to consider that yes lot's of people who just want to see porn like this will sign up, but there are a lot of fans of voyeurism who don't sign up and they would if it felt more like that. A true voyeur feeling website would make lot's of $$$ too, especially when you consider that nobody is truly catering for that. I think it's the fault of people who don't particularly care about voyeurism, they come to the website and complain that there isn't enough porn going on, so the website owners feel pressure to "make stuff happen", but then you lose the voyeurism completely. I love VHTV there is lot's which is good to see, but I still am here hoping for a website with the amount of content and participants and quality of service and is also really voyeuristic. At least VHTV has shown the way in terms of how to provide the service with so many cams, replay and moments. Hopefully one day someone will take this same model and apply it to something which really feels voyeuristic too, there are lots of us who would love to see that happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopscotch24 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, waldi said: pure voyeur site like for instant peepholecam which still offers hidden cams, ( something for hardcore voyeurs ) is dying. I read on their forum, that Kevin thinks about business similar to vhtv because current model isn't able to attract customers. This kind of businesses is like any others, to exist, must develop and change, simply because audience gets bored very quickly. I don't want to say it has to go towards so called "live porn", but so far it seems to be right direction and it works. Yep that site has changed too sadly. Some of the cams on RLC do feel voyeuristic, that is a bit of a mixed bag, but way too expensive for replay. Oh well, all it means is that there is a gap in the market, someone will find a way to fill it eventually I'm sure. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mic351 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 On 4/4/2018 at 2:39 PM, Voyeur House TV said: Thank you for drawing our attention to the cameras arrangement. We are doing our best to make the content better. That's why your opinion is so important for us. We would be very much obliged to you if you can give us an advice how we could improve the cams placement in the pointed apartments. Ok, let's take Ray and Polly's Apartment. In the lounge realm 19, cam 15, is placed too high. Inasmuch as this cam is mounted, it would behoove you to lower this cam about 2 feet. The viewing would be closer and far better while still allowing for the wide angle. Cam 11, in this realm should be titled about 10 degrees more to the right (As you are looking at the picture.). Cam 13 could also be lowered about 18". Cam 12 should be moved out and placed right to the edge of the window sill. Cam 18 in this realm should also be lowered a bit. In Henry and Mira's apartment their center bedroom cam is the height that seems to be the best for viewing. Most the the gripes I have heard, and that I subscribe to is that many of the cameras are too far from the "action" and the angles are bad for say, the showing of actual penetration.. Once again, I am not plugging your competition but look at the cams over at RLC. Most of them are close to the action and the angles are such that they allow for maximum viewing pleasure. Lastly, you'd do yourself and your participants a big favor if you got rid of the tripods and reverted to all mounted cams. Those tripods carry a big psychological burden and scream out for guests to pay attention to the cams. I know if I was a guest every time I saw those tripods I would remember I am being filmed. This could have a chilling effect on the guests and their adverse reaction to same. You asked for it, you got it. Hope you consider these suggestions. I think it will help the site grow and I don't think these few alterations would cost very much.. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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