Martina and Alberto - home activities #28

[bluewinner]

9 minutes ago, james deen said:

i dont need or want your friendly and i will reply to anything i want but thanks anyway😉

 

59 minutes ago, james deen said:

loosen up mate. jeez

😂 

[bluewinner]

6 minutes ago, JenniferMom said:

Perhaps I am wrong but I think @bluewinner and @Sergio are saying the same thing.  Blue says it intellectually like perhaps he is a sex therapist or a psychologist commenting on observed behavior ... and  Sergio uses wicked sarcasm in few words to essentially say the same thing.

The point is we are watching something contrived and not real.

If this was a true TV or movie drama, we would be bitching about the writers and directors and why are they doing this or that with these characters.   In this case, we complain about the characters themselves ... because there are no writers or directors (I know some think there are) ... but at the end of the day, this is not much different than a TV show.  It's more real than a TV show but not as real as real life.

No, my comment had nothing in common with that guy's comment , in fact it was quite the opposite 😉

[JenniferMom]

3 hours ago, Keith Ramsay said:

but my wife found out and she was none too happy

Thanks Keith for sharing such a personal story.   I posted weeks/months ago about a show on Playboy Channel that was devoted to swinging and open marriages.  I tuned in at first because I thought it was going to be super hot.  It really wasn't.  Mostly the show is about this open couple talking about they make it work.  It was a talk radio show and they took caller's questions.  Almost constantly, they always talked about COMMUNICATION COMMUNICATION COMMUNICATION.  There cannot be any secrets or lies or this always fails.  That was the key message I took out of it.  

It does seem like Alberto and Martina are very open with each other and accepting of each other.  There is a lot we don't see ... like what does Alberto do on these long bike rides, etc.   But for now, I would say these two are making their open relationship work.  

I remember that radio show saying something that even the slightest little lie ... where one partner is hiding something  ... can cause it all to come crashing down.

[JenniferMom]

2 hours ago, Noldus said:

1134 Martina and Nelly (with her bike) left for the beach

Not to pile on my new friend @Deepdave ... but if Nelly was just out to try to check some boxes, why not head back to Bogdan.  These two are so into each other.  And if Martina was not into Nelly, she could bike to the beach with Alberto.

[HarleyFatboy]

1 minute ago, JenniferMom said:

Not to pile on my new friend @Deepdave ... but if Nelly was just out to try to check some boxes, why not head back to Bogdan.  These two are so into each other.  And if Martina was not into Nelly, she could bike to the beach with Alberto.

It seems like you want to believe this relationship with Martina and Nelly is so strong and so right for both of them...more than anybody.  Is this reflecting on your own personal life?  Is there a girl in your life you want to be with but you just can't seem to make it happen or are you just fantasizing and living through this BS show of Martina and Nelly because maybe you don't have the nerve to make it happen in your own life?  Are you afraid of what others may think of you if you were to start a serious relationship with some girl you have a crush on?  Just curious why you are so in to this whole situation between these two porn stars!!

[JenniferMom]

1 hour ago, scoutouyoufe said:

Except that Martina uses her bisexuality as an excuse to go flirt with Nelly or other lovers.

And I find that it reflects a bad image of bi people as if bisexual people had no choice but to go flirt elsewhere when it is wrong you can be bi without doing that. 

 

Except that Martina uses her bisexuality as an excuse to go flirt with Nelly or other lovers.

And I find that it reflects a bad image of bi people as if bisexual people had no choice but to go flirt elsewhere when it is wrong you can be bi without doing that.

This is exactly what I meant earlier when I said I find the B in BISEXUAL the most confusing to understand of the LGBTQXYZ types we are all supposed to be tolerant of these days.  

Thank you Scout.  But what is wrong with flirting?  Is flirting in general bad?  Isn't that how humans court each other?  Some species rub their asses together to show affection, we flirt.   Sure you can be bi without flirting but what is the fun in that?

Not being critical of you Scout as the language translation may be losing something as well.  But mostly I think bisexuality is the most confusing.  And my theory is it is confusing because it is a DIRECT CONFLICT to the concept of "committed relationships" and "monagamy".   I think a lot of people rationalize homosexuality along the lines of "hey those two guys are in a committed relationship and monamagous so what is the difference between that and a man and a woman in a committed relationship.  Look they love each other.  Some homosexual relationships are stronger than many hetero relationships.  etc etc"?    And please, I am very tolerant of everyone, just making a point about how a lot of people and deal with this in their mind.

If RLC had a couples apartment for Nelly and Martina ... and there was no Bogdan or Alberto ... would we be  having these discussions?  HA HA, we would probably talk about how they fight all the time like Kitty/Smith and Gina/Bruno LOL.

My point is that humans are still very much focused on "committed relationships" and monogamy.  And true bisexuality threatens those mental models and paradigms.  I think this is why this amazing diverse group of posters gets amped up with the Nelly/Martina/Boggy/Berty saga.  It pushes the boundaries of these norms.

(YES I know us voyeurs here are not very diverse as a group relative to everyone on the planet.)

 

[JenniferMom]

9 minutes ago, HarleyFatboy said:

It seems like you want to believe this relationship with Martina and Nelly is so strong and so right for both of them...more than anybody.

Harley ... not at all.  You are dead wrong or maybe 98% wrong.  Let me elaborate.  I do not know if this is "so strong" or "so right" for both of them.  Only they know this.  I only comment on what I SEE.  Isn't that the Voyeur's Code?  I do believe based on what I see that these two are really into each other ... and not as evidence by the sex (we know they do sex for money on RLC) but how they behave intimately in other moments of their life.  I love debating those here who do not think they are that attracted to each other but this is mostly an RLC show.  Ultimately any of us could be right, but it is pretty clear to me that these two are into each other in a big way.  I try to make my points based on evidence that I see, not because "I was told that Bogdan was getting his dick sucked by Holly at the spare apartment" ... which again may be true, but since I can't see it, I take it with a grain of salt.  Not suggesting at all that you do this my friend 🙂.  HA.

I want what is best for all four of these people and that is for them to decide.  I would hate to see any of them hurt by all of this.  

This is not by any means reflecting on my own life.  OMG I wish (that's part of the 2%).  I am very happy with my life and I own the mistakes I have made.  I love my children and I accept the situation I am in.  I am absolutely not projecting if that is what you are accusing me of.  I am very open however and not embarassed at all if I were to fall in love with another woman.  I was very adventurous in my earlier years and I do relate with what these "kids" are going through.  It does bring back memories for me.  But my life is not anything like RLC and I wouldn't change it for any price.

Honestly Harley (and other guys here), don't you know women who love reading trashy romance novels and soap operas and then love to gossip with other women about these juicy stories?   I can't believe so many don't see this.  When you are with friends (mixed company), I'm guessing you are with the guys drinking beers and the girls are in the other room chatting.  I've heard guys say "the hens are really going at it".  What do you think they are talking about?   IT IS SHIT LIKE THIS!    This really is all this is for me.  What makes it a bit different is the audience.  Honestly I do have girlfriends (not sexually) where I would love to tell them about this and I could talk to them about this (for hours!) ... but admittedly, I am too embarassed to tell them I pay for this and I spend time doing this.   Before you all judge, be honest, who else in your lives know you are here?

So to summarize, I like to provide thoughtful posts about what I see here.  Period and end of story.  If I ever start getting bored by this or if I feel most of you hate me for being the way I am ... I will look for other ways for to vent my passion and feelings.  But I am fascinated by these stories and mostly the M/N/A/B story the most.  Like I said earlier, it is TV without the script and producers and directors.

Lastly, I enjoy responding to you when you are courteous and pleasant.  Please continue to be that way.  You seem to fall back on the excuse of "I call out bullshit when I see it, hey that is who I am".   No, that is not who you are.  You can actually be quite pleasant at times.

[JenniferMom]

53 minutes ago, HarleyFatboy said:

Just curious why you are so in to this whole situation between these two porn stars!!

I know ... I am obsessed. 

But enough with the "these are just porn stars" routine.  They are not porn stars.  This RLC universe is something very different than being an adult actor/actress.  I don't think if two lesbian porn stars hooked up like Nelly and Martina last night, they would sleep in the same bed, enjoy breakfast together, and then go for a bike ride.  Of course there may be some porn stars who are into each other and I have stated before, those porn videos seem to be the hottest.

When you watch porn you know you are watching actors with a script of sorts.  

This is something different.  Contrived at times yes and the cams do not make anything about this REAL despite the name of the company.  But these are not porn stars.  

Curious question for veterans:  Have any of these people gone on to become a bona fide porn star.  That I would believe.

[Nenemoh7]

1 hour ago, JenniferMom said:

This is exactly what I meant earlier when I said I find the B in BISEXUAL the most confusing to understand of the LGBTQXYZ types we are all supposed to be tolerant of these days.  

Thank you Scout.  But what is wrong with flirting?  Is flirting in general bad?  Isn't that how humans court each other?  Some species rub their asses together to show affection, we flirt.   Sure you can be bi without flirting but what is the fun in that?

Not being critical of you Scout as the language translation may be losing something as well.  But mostly I think bisexuality is the most confusing.  And my theory is it is confusing because it is a DIRECT CONFLICT to the concept of "committed relationships" and "monagamy".   I think a lot of people rationalize homosexuality along the lines of "hey those two guys are in a committed relationship and monamagous so what is the difference between that and a man and a woman in a committed relationship.  Look they love each other.  Some homosexual relationships are stronger than many hetero relationships.  etc etc"?    And please, I am very tolerant of everyone, just making a point about how a lot of people and deal with this in their mind.

If RLC had a couples apartment for Nelly and Martina ... and there was no Bogdan or Alberto ... would we be  having these discussions?  HA HA, we would probably talk about how they fight all the time like Kitty/Smith and Gina/Bruno LOL.

My point is that humans are still very much focused on "committed relationships" and monogamy.  And true bisexuality threatens those mental models and paradigms.  I think this is why this amazing diverse group of posters gets amped up with the Nelly/Martina/Boggy/Berty saga.  It pushes the boundaries of these norms.

(YES I know us voyeurs here are not very diverse as a group relative to everyone on the planet.)

 

ddhm is that you?

[bluewinner]

12 minutes ago, JenniferMom said:

I know ... I am obsessed. 

But enough with the "these are just porn stars" routine.  They are not porn stars.  This RLC universe is something very different than being an adult actor/actress.  I don't think if two lesbian porn stars hooked up like Nelly and Martina last night, they would sleep in the same bed, enjoy breakfast together, and then go for a bike ride.  Of course there may be some porn stars who are into each other and I have stated before, those porn videos seem to be the hottest.

When you watch porn you know you are watching actors with a script of sorts.  

This is something different.  Contrived at times yes and the cams do not make anything about this REAL despite the name of the company.  But these are not porn stars.  

Curious question for veterans:  Have any of these people gone on to become a bona fide porn star.  That I would believe.

you are wasting your time with him 😉 

[HarleyFatboy]

4 minutes ago, JenniferMom said:

Harley ... not at all.  You are dead wrong or maybe 98% wrong.  Let me elaborate.  I do not know if this is "so strong" or "so right" for both of them.  Only they know this.  I only comment on what I SEE.  Isn't that the Voyeur's Code?  I do believe based on what I see that these two are really into each other ... and not as evidence by the sex (we know they do sex for money on RLC) but how they behave intimately in other moments of their life.  I love debating those here who do not think they are that attracted to each other but this is mostly an RLC show.  Ultimately any of us could be right, but it is pretty clear to me that these two are into each other in a big way.  I try to make my points based on evidence that I see, not because "I was told that Bogdan was getting his dick sucked by Holly at the spare apartment" ... which again may be true, but since I can't see it, I take it with a grain of salt.  Not suggesting at all that you do this my friend 🙂.  HA.

I want what is best for all four of these people and that is for them to decide.  I would hate to see any of them hurt by all of this.  

This is not by any means reflecting on my own life.  OMG I wish (that's part of the 2%).  I am very happy with my life and I own the mistakes I have made.  I love my children and I accept the situation I am in.  I am absolutely not projecting if that is what you are accusing me of.  I am very open however and not embarassed at all if I were to fall in love with another woman.  I was very adventurous in my earlier years and I do relate with what these "kids" are going through.  It does bring back memories for me.  But my life is not anything like RLC and I wouldn't change it for any price.

Honestly Harley (and other guys here), don't you know women who love reading trashy romance novels and soap operas and then love to gossip with other women about these juicy stories?   I can't believe so many don't see this.  When you are with friends (mixed company), I'm guessing you are with the guys drinking beers and the girls are in the other room chatting.  I've heard guys say "the hens are really going at it".  What do you think they are talking about?   IT IS SHIT LIKE THIS!    This really is all this is for me.  What makes it a bit different is the audience.  Honestly I do have girlfriends (not sexually) where I would love to tell them about this and I could talk to them about this (for hours!) ... but admittedly, I am too embarassed to tell them I pay for this and I spend time doing this.   Before you all judge, be honest, who else in your lives know you are here?

So to summarize, I like to provide thoughtful posts about what I see here.  Period and end of story.  If I ever start getting bored by this or if I feel most of you hate me for being the way I am ... I will look for other ways for to vent my passion and feelings.  But I am fascinated by these stories and mostly the M/N/A/B story the most.  Like I said earlier, it is TV without the script and producers and directors.

Lastly, I enjoy responding to you when you are courteous and pleasant.  Please continue to be that way.  You seem to fall back on the excuse of "I call out bullshit when I see it, hey that is who I am".   No, that is not who you are.  You can actually be quite pleasant at times.

First off, thank you.  Secondly, I do call BS when I see it on here and in my personal life....my family and friends would back me up on this.  In my personal life, don't ask me a question if you don't want to hear the answer...sorry, that's just who I am.  On here though, one has to tip toe through the tulips way more than in "real life" simply due to all the monitor warriors out there that wear their feelings on their sleeve.  There are far too many people on this forum that get way to wrapped up in what is essentially a bunch of fake characters on some amateur porn site, where in all reality they should be focused more on their own lives....just MHO.

Several of my friends know I used to watch RLC and even my son and daughter know I used to watch RLC....I hide nothing from my kids.  They were supportive of me when I went off the deep end after losing my wife.  I went through some really bad times and hardships for a couple of years, to the point it started affecting everything I had passion for in this world.  From my outdoor activities, to my real estate adventures, to the point of driving people away.  Both of my kids got together and put a plan in motion to get their dear old dad back on track and thanks to them I'm better now than I have been in a long time.  They started by taking an interest in real estate and we started going and looking at properties and I would explain to them why this property would be a good purchase over this other property and so on.  During one of those adventures, they both decided I should by this certain piece of property as a vacation rental.  I told them that I was too old and my health would not allow me to deal with that kind of investment but if they wanted to go in and get it together, that I would help them purchase it.  They now see the benefit in buying and selling properties and because of them, it helped me get back on the right track because I no longer had the need to drown my life in sorrows.  Kids are a wonderful thing!!!

You made a comment that you want what is best for all four of these people...N/B/M/A.  How can a person get so wrapped up in a fictional character that they have never met nor will ever meet.  I'm sorry, that just frickin boggles my mind and I see it as a serious problem for people.  Before you say anything, I know what people want to do with their own time is their own business and I totally agree.  However, imagine if CC didn't exist...how many people would still be such hardcore viewers for this soap opera called RLC?  RLC owes CC so much gratitude because without CC, I think the RLC viewer base would suffer.  Before you go saying that there is way more people than what there is on CC that view RLC, the question is....just how many and does anyone truly know the exact numbers!!  I personally believe RLC is hanging on by the skin of their teeth and they have encouraged this whole Martina/Nelly facade....once again, just MHO.

With that, I need to make some breakfast so I can start my daily regimen.....have a good day and thanks for your reply!!

[HarleyFatboy]

8 minutes ago, bluewinner said:

you are wasting your time with him 😉 

and you are my favorite forum member also.....................................NOT!