Deepdave Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, DWI said: Hi Deepdave, Well, as I told JenMom, I am trying so hard to stay out of these conversations about Martina and Nelly because I basically feel none of us knows shit about what's really going on between them behind the scenes..just translations and speculations...which I have to admit is "fun" to read as entertainment. I think that you're right to suggest we "cool the jets" a bit on this discussion. I think JenMom has the most logical approach to all of this after reading her recent posts. I respect your posts too and always enjoy them even though sometimes I have a different take on things...but that's what a good forum is all about...give and take. So, in that vein, I do disagree with you when you say "that is not love" when talking about Martins's and Nelly's relationship where drinking is involved. It is absolutely PART of most people's love-life...we party, we get drink too much, and then we go home and have sex...or maybe even in a parking lot. Normal behavior. It really has nothing to do with love...its about being drunk, high or whatever. Hundreds of millions of really good people do this. Now, I do believe Nelly has some drinking issues...plain to see. But, maybe Martina does also at times. But the underlying thing here is that this happens all the time with people who are in love with each other. My subjective opinion is that these two women are deeply in love with each other...whether that's right or wrong, I can't be the judge. I can say no more than that. Thanks for your honest post. There is something wrong with their love if they need booze and/or drugs to consumate the act. It is not love. It is unconsious sex. Hundreds of millions of people do do this, but it's not true love. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deepdave Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, ddhm said: Put Martina one full day in the villa with Holly , the girl that Martina originally wanted ..or let her be with any of Fiora / Harley / Olivia / Ulyana / Daniela / Radislava , even Mila in the jacuzzi and let’s see how she reacts and if it is just sex with a woman that she wants or searching in general a new adventure ..it is quite simple actually , the thing is that as soon as Nelly left the villa and Martina started her studies , I think she visited only once the villa if I am correct ..perhaps her actions then on camera could reveal or even answer some questions .. Now you get it. Martina does not seem to want that kind of sex or she would be visiting that Villa often and getting her sex with other women. She was originally there for Nelly. Then her relationship fizzled out when Bogdan protested. Then Bogdan asked them to be friends. And here we are today. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWI Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Deepdave said: There is something wrong with their love if they need booze and/or drugs to consumate the act. It is not love. It is unconsious sex. Hundreds of millions of people do do this, but it's not true love. I can just tell you from my experience with my bisexual wife and her best friend for over 40 years, I have to stand by my words...that's why JenMom's words ran so true to me. Let's agree to disagree ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StnCld316 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Enough of the bickering. It has been carrying on over the last 2 or 3 days. Time to put the matter to rest and move on. 5 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWI Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, StnCld316 said: Enough of the bickering. It has been carrying on over the last 2 or 3 days. Time to put the matter to rest and move on. Absolutely! Enough is enough...let's just let it all play out. We know nothing right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noldus Posted January 13, 2022 Author Share Posted January 13, 2022 New school day for Martina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tle Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 8 hours ago, JenniferMom said: Seriously? You don’t think alcohol reduces inhibitions and allows true emotions to become exposed? Yes. Lust is an emotion.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girlsfun2 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 6 hours ago, Noldus said: New school day for Martina Do we know why, when she was younger, she has stop the regular school ? Because she is much older then the other student, like her friend who visit sometime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deepdave Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 hour ago, tle said: Yes. Lust is an emotion.... And perhaps there is a point where you go behond the normal amount of drinking. You become numb and unable walk and talk properly. Are you still capable of lust or perhaps you can be taken advantage of. I have gotten to this point in my life and I have seen some of my friends black out and not remember what happened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tle Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Deepdave said: And perhaps there is a point where you go behond the normal amount of drinking. You become numb and unable walk and talk properly. Are you still capable of lust or perhaps you can be taken advantage of. I have gotten to this point in my life and I have seen some of my friends black out and not remmber what happened. I'm pretty sure that all the girls I plied with alcohol and had sex with when I was a teenager were not in love with me... But they did want to have sex. The alcohol just helped loosen up their inhibitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deepdave Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, tle said: I'm pretty sure that all the girls I plied with alcohol and had sex with when I was a teenager were not in love with me... But they did want to have sex. The alcohol just helped loosen up their inhibitions. What I am describing is not the norm but does happen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
girlsfun2 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, tle said: I'm pretty sure that all the girls I plied with alcohol and had sex with when I was a teenager were not in love with me... But they did want to have sex. The alcohol just helped loosen up their inhibitions. your right. Sex is another fun in life. It an activity that can be associated with love or not....like an escort service or bordel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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