smurfy08 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 there is an abundance of fakeness and staging with these girls from what i've seen, very disappointing. It's not always easy to know what is staged and what is not....for example Danaya's boobs :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarleyFatboy Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 It's not always easy to know what is staged and what is not....for example Danaya's boobs :) i know you keep saying that you think they are fake, i get that. i on the other hand do not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaky Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 i see it the exact same way and agree with your post. it is very apparent what they do and always stop short of going any further. it is all in getting the subscribers which consist mainly of older men i'm sure. the candlelit bath is very lame at that. Harley, for the umpteenth time, this is not a directed porn project. Noone ever announced these girls as lesbians, so if you're waiting for the spur of the moment lesbian sex you might as well leave and go watch the two lesbian apartments or go watch Voyeur-villa for daily porn. BTW, Petra has a new camming partner now, so it's a place to be for lesbian connoisseurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarleyFatboy Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Harley, for the umpteenth time, this is not a directed porn project. Noone ever announced these girls as lesbians, so if you're waiting for the spur of the moment lesbian sex you might as well leave and go watch the two lesbian apartments or go watch Voyeur-villa for daily porn. BTW, Petra has a new camming partner now, so it's a place to be for lesbian connoisseurs. i never said it was and i don't live to see lesbian sex. after the few weeks i've watched real life cam i've seen all i need to see. it's a site with basically one apartment with pretty women who's job is to tease enough to bring in people and spend that money in my opinion. i'm not into tattoos so you can cross several apartments off the list right off the bat. i am however into looking at pretty women and only women in this apartment because the are beautiful and have little to no tattoos. the apartment of leora is not for me because she likes herself way to much for my taste, but she is pretty. when i thought about signing up for this site i was talking to my wife about it as we discuss absolutely everything and hold no secrets from one another and she told me to go for it but if it doesn't meet my expectations to please not waste money on it. she views the site about 1/3 of the time that i do and told me she fell in love with the girls apartment. her and ilona could be sisters, they look very similar to each other except my wife has about twice as much up top and about half the amount of hair length. i also put in for a month of voyeur-villa and found another disappointing site in my opinion and wouldn't recommend it to anyone. on the other hand i would recommend real life cam to others and just tell them to not get attached to any of the participants and watch it for a month to see if they like it and if not to cancel. from reading this forum there are a bunch of die hard real life cam fans here and that's cool, it's just (at the moment) not for me. hopefully on another day i'll rejoin if what i read on here sounds worth it, but i will pm people first to get some honest opinions from the cam caps members. would you be willing to let me pm you when the time arises? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaky Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 i never said it was and i don't live to see lesbian sex. after the few weeks i've watched real life cam i've seen all i need to see. it's a site with basically one apartment with pretty women who's job is to tease enough to bring in people and spend that money in my opinion. i'm not into tattoos so you can cross several apartments off the list right off the bat. i am however into looking at pretty women and only women in this apartment because the are beautiful and have little to no tattoos. the apartment of leora is not for me because she likes herself way to much for my taste, but she is pretty. when i thought about signing up for this site i was talking to my wife about it as we discuss absolutely everything and hold no secrets from one another and she told me to go for it but if it doesn't meet my expectations to please not waste money on it. she views the site about 1/3 of the time that i do and told me she fell in love with the girls apartment. her and ilona could be sisters, they look very similar to each other except my wife has about twice as much up top and about half the amount of hair length. i also put in for a month of voyeur-villa and found another disappointing site in my opinion and wouldn't recommend it to anyone. on the other hand i would recommend real life cam to others and just tell them to not get attached to any of the participants and watch it for a month to see if they like it and if not to cancel. from reading this forum there are a bunch of die hard real life cam fans here and that's cool, it's just (at the moment) not for me. hopefully on another day i'll rejoin if what i read on here sounds worth it, but i will pm people first to get some honest opinions from the cam caps members. would you be willing to let me pm you when the time arises? Well then furthermore I don't understand what this comment meant, [quotei see it the exact same way and agree with your post. it is very apparent what they do and always stop short of going any further. it is all in getting the subscribers which consist mainly of older men i'm sure. the candlelit bath is very lame at that.] or this, there is an abundance of fakeness and staging with these girls from what i've seen, very disappointing. If you read the site description before joining it and it didn't meet your expectations and you found it faked and staged and the girls "stop short of going someplace", then you either misunderstand what a reality voyeur show is or you were not looking for a voyeur type of product in the first place. The other half of your post is simply untrue, as the age of subscribers ranges from teens up to the age when the "soldier is still able to salute" Now, I wouldn't rely on opinions from CC members too much, as there are as many opinions as there are members, but you can be sure you will always find true back feed on my end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thestarider Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Snakey, I agree with you in aspects and understanding of the disclaimer produced by RLC. It is why I joined almost 3 years ago. I have not been disappointed in any way by all but the girls apartment that was produced by RLC for the sole reason of drawing in subscribers. A voyeurs expectation is to catch a glimpse of what he or she is not suppose to see normally, that in itself is the thrill of being a voyeur. for example one of the best moments on RLC was when Hector came out of the bedroom and one of their guests was laying on the couch with cover off providing him a very good view of her. He crept over and just stared for quite some at her. Now she was not naked, but this is what a voyeur dreams of. Another example is when everyone's most hated Kiko would get up early before Nora in the girls apartment, with hopes of catching one of the girls in a somewhat undressed nature. Where I do have a issue is with the teasers that have been in the apartment lately, not to say I don't love to see them naked , or half naked all the time because I actually do, that is not true voyeurism. It is in fact produced in such a manor as to entertain the subscriber, similar to the couch for Nelly and Bogdan guests. With that being said RLC does have it exhibitionist as well and that is a form of voyeurism that voyeurs do enjoy. and is meant to tease for the short periods of time it takes for them to perform the act of exhibiting, once again outside of what we would normally do in life. My point is this, the almost total and complete toplessness and even complete nudity is not normal for a voyeur, but more normal for nudist's. That is why so many say that want so much more from the girls apartment because they feel they are being entertained instead of the glimpse of what is not normal everyday life. just my thoughts sir ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timewarp Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Excellent thread. Most of what I think and would have expressed is covered in one manner or another. It's good to see that I am not the only one who feels that these sites are a far cry from true voyeurism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaky Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Snakey, I agree with you in aspects and understanding of the disclaimer produced by RLC. It is why I joined almost 3 years ago. I have not been disappointed in any way by all but the girls apartment that was produced by RLC for the sole reason of drawing in subscribers. A voyeurs expectation is to catch a glimpse of what he or she is not suppose to see normally, that in itself is the thrill of being a voyeur. for example one of the best moments on RLC was when Hector came out of the bedroom and one of their guests was laying on the couch with cover off providing him a very good view of her. He crept over and just stared for quite some at her. Now she was not naked, but this is what a voyeur dreams of. Another example is when everyone's most hated Kiko would get up early before Nora in the girls apartment, with hopes of catching one of the girls in a somewhat undressed nature. Where I do have a issue is with the teasers that have been in the apartment lately, not to say I don't love to see them naked , or half naked all the time because I actually do, that is not true voyeurism. It is in fact produced in such a manor as to entertain the subscriber, similar to the couch for Nelly and Bogdan guests. With that being said RLC does have it exhibitionist as well and that is a form of voyeurism that voyeurs do enjoy. and is meant to tease for the short periods of time it takes for them to perform the act of exhibiting, once again outside of what we would normally do in life. My point is this, the almost total and complete toplessness and even complete nudity is not normal for a voyeur, but more normal for nudist's. That is why so many say that want so much more from the girls apartment because they feel they are being entertained instead of the glimpse of what is not normal everyday life. just my thoughts sir ! For fucks sake people, go to the dictionary and look up the definition of a voyeur. The term voyeur has nothing to do with any of the tenants or the way they behave themselves. An exhibitionist is a person that gains pleasure from being exposed in a state of undress. But none of this girls are that, they just like being in their undies when their are home. A voyeur is a person that gains pleasure from secretly watching another person in a state of undress or sexual situation. An act when someone does the watching is called voyeurism. So Thesta, you say you like watching the girls naked, that means you're a voyeur. And when you're watching those girls naked, you indulge in "voyeurism". But guess what, whether you're watching her masterbate or wash dishes, you're still a voyeur and she's no more and no less Real in both cases, because everyone masturbates and everyone washes dishes in real life. A person can't possibly be fake if he/she is not acting per script, but lives his/her life just as you and I do. Now the daily routine and customs differ for every single person, but that doesn't make any of them fake. We're not here to draw lines for when a girl should stop being naked. We're here to be a fly on the wall, and get an eye into the lives of young women and couples with whatever daily rituals it may or may not include. And RLC never advertised anywhere as anything but that. A portal into the lives of others--a voyeur cam site. So for everyone who has a problem with RLC, get your definitions straight before forming a "complaint" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thestarider Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 According to websters dictionary the definition of voyeur: voyeurplay noun voy·eur \vwä-ˈyər, vȯi-ˈər\ Simple Definition of voyeur Popularity: Top 1% of lookups : a person who gets sexual pleasure from secretly watching other people have sex : a person who likes seeing and talking or writing about something that is considered to be private Full Definition of voyeur 1 : one obtaining sexual gratification from observing unsuspecting individuals who are partly undressed, naked, or engaged in sexual acts; broadly : one who habitually seeks sexual stimulation by visual means 2 : a prying observer who is usually seeking the sordid or the scandalous And exhibitionism: exhibitionismplay noun ex·hi·bi·tion·ism \-ˈbi-shə-ˌni-zəm\ Simple Definition of exhibitionism Popularity: Bottom 50% of words : behavior that is meant to attract attention to yourself Full Definition of exhibitionism 1 a : a perversion in which sexual gratification is obtained from the indecent exposure of one's genitals (as to a stranger) b : an act of such exposure 2 : the act or practice of behaving so as to attract attention to oneself I guess your definitions and mine are somewhat different, but yet similar. You are quite the venomous snake aren't you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookmaster8 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Personally, I think the biggest reason that people gripe about this particular apartment and scream about it not being "real life" is that they expect the girls who stay here to live a "normal" life like most other people. The fact of the matter is that almost all of the girls who have stayed in this apartment for the last year (while I've been an RLC member) are professional models or model wannabees. Anyone who works in that profession lives a very different kind of life. They don't have jobs that they have to go to daily. They have very short modeling gigs that only last a day or two for the most part and then days or weeks of inactivity waiting for the next paying modeling gig. What we are seeing here is very close to what a "normal" model's daily life is like. The only part that is not "normal" is that they show some extra skin and occasionally put on little "shows" for the paying members because they know that ratings matter to the people who are providing the temporary room and board. It's also why almost none of the girls who have stayed here have any permanent tattoos. Every tattoo that a model has on her body automatically eliminates them from certain specific modeling jobs. They want to maximize their chances at getting modeling assignments. I believe it's also why they spend even more time putting on make-up and trying on different outfits than "normal" women do. Their looks are the source of their livelihood. If everyone was absolutely honest with themselves, I think they would have to admit that the regular long-term residents in the other apartments actually are a lot less "normal" than regular non-models. Almost none of them hold a normal day to day job either the way most average people do. "Normal" couples also don't make sure that they make love under the sheets so that no one can see them. That's just my 2 cents. You can certainly disagree strongly with me. But, that's the way I see it. I hope I haven't offended anyone who has an opposing view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benfold Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Personally, I think the biggest reason that people gripe about this particular apartment and scream about it not being "real life" is that they expect the girls who stay here to live a "normal" life like most other people. The fact of the matter is that almost all of the girls who have stayed in this apartment for the last year (while I've been an RLC member) are professional models or model wannabees. Anyone who works in that profession lives a very different kind of life. They don't have jobs that they have to go to daily. They have very short modeling gigs that only last a day or two for the most part and then days or weeks of inactivity waiting for the next paying modeling gig. What we are seeing here is very close to what a "normal" model's daily life is like. The only part that is not "normal" is that they show some extra skin and occasionally put on little "shows" for the paying members because they know that ratings matter to the people who are providing the temporary room and board. It's also why almost none of the girls who have stayed here have any permanent tattoos. Every tattoo that a model has on her body automatically eliminates them from certain specific modeling jobs. They want to maximize their chances at getting modeling assignments. I believe it's also why they spend even more time putting on make-up and trying on different outfits than "normal" women do. Their looks are the source of their livelihood. If everyone was absolutely honest with themselves, I think they would have to admit that the regular long-term residents in the other apartments actually are a lot less "normal" than regular non-models. Almost none of them hold a normal day to day job either the way most average people do. "Normal" couples also don't make sure that they make love under the sheets so that no one can see them. That's just my 2 cents. You can certainly disagree strongly with me. But, that's the way I see it. I hope I haven't offended anyone who has an opposing view. Irma had tattoos mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookmaster8 Posted January 31, 2016 Share Posted January 31, 2016 Irma had tattoos mate I'm well aware of that. It's why I said "almost". I actually liked her tattoos, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't have cost her a few modeling jobs. As a rule, I don't usually like them. But, Irma's looked nice to me. The script font was nice and the way the words curved around her was pretty sensual IMO. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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