Kristy and guest are going at it hot and heavy right now!

[mr1010]

 

Not this "real life" thing again. You don't want to watch a real life couple. For most people real life is boring. You get up early, go to work or school, get home, eat and do chores, watch TV and go to bed again. On weekends maybe going out to to meet friends and catch a movie. As a viewer it would be a lot less fun to watch than what we have now.

You're only asking for sex in plain sight so you can jerk off, which is fine but don't hide behind phrases like "it's not real life" or "not part of the project" or similar. Nowhere, as far as I can tell, has there been any promise from RLC that there will be regular sex over the covers on a regular basis in any apartment. That's just what you and others assumed there would be and then complain endlessly when your dreams don't live up to reality. Disappointed? Welcome to the real world.

Spoon, I really like this post!

I have said the same thing in the past. Real lives (like ours) is not exciting, very routine. Why would we want to see that?

And rlc never promised us anything specific, that is true.

However, if the participants decide to always hide their sexual activities that they do elsewhere, they are making a conscious decision to withhold from the cameras. That is obviously not "real". If I am an exhibitionist and I then choose to not show things I am doing, it is a bit of a rip-off honestly.

Rita never was an exhibitionist, so her not showing anything is perfectly consistent. Kami & Kristy fuck their boyfriends and don't show us usually. That is not consistent.

I do not say that they are  required to satisfy us, but if  I don't feel this is a true voyeur experience, I can decide to leave it. And in the meantime, I can state my opinion of it.

[mr1010]

 

You know what, I'm not going to crap all over you because you made some good points.    However, and this is the last time I'm going to say this......I hope lol.   Either the tenants want to participate or they don't, there is NO in-between here.   If they want privacy for conversations that's fine, but don't purposely hide from the cameras during sexual situations......people pay damn good money to see that and by RLC allowing it to happen, they are just laughing in subscribers faces!    I can here them talking now while they are cruising around on their yacht drinking high dollar bubbly, and it probably goes something like this;

""Isn't it funny how we can shutdown an occupied apartment for two weeks and these dumbasses continue to give us their hard earned money,  or let's bring Rita back to Barca....we know she ain't going to show hardly anything but people will still gives us that money,  or I don't care if D&D hide there sex all the time....we are still raking in the money.  We have these subscribers hooked with a solid loop with chain attached through the nose.....we can do anything because they will still pay us""

 

Anyway, I'm done.....today is my birthday and I'm taking my lady friend for a ride on the bike to get something to eat.   Have a good evening!!

Well, have a good time Harley. Leave this stuff behind for a night.

[Nick]

 

You know what, I'm not going to crap all over you because you made some good points.    However, and this is the last time I'm going to say this......I hope lol.   Either the tenants want to participate or they don't, there is NO in-between here.   If they want privacy for conversations that's fine, but don't purposely hide from the cameras during sexual situations......people pay damn good money to see that and by RLC allowing it to happen, they are just laughing in subscribers faces!    I can here them talking now while they are cruising around on their yacht drinking high dollar bubbly, and it probably goes something like this;

""Isn't it funny how we can shutdown an occupied apartment for two weeks and these dumbasses continue to give us their hard earned money,  or let's bring Rita back to Barca....we know she ain't going to show hardly anything but people will still gives us that money,  or I don't care if D&D hide there sex all the time....we are still raking in the money.  We have these subscribers hooked with a solid loop with chain attached through the nose.....we can do anything because they will still pay us""

 

Anyway, I'm done.....today is my birthday and I'm taking my lady friend for a ride on the bike to get something to eat.   Have a good evening!!

Happy Birthday :-) Harley  

[corboblanc]

Il y a 2 heures, MrBox a dit :

 

Is this not what RLC is about? ... To see the part of some "Real Lifes" that is normaly not to be see, because they take place in apartments. .. If they would limited this events to the "public" parts, it would not make seens at all to run this project. 

The issue with this apartment is much wider than only the hidden sex (and faked masturbation). Particularly in recent times you could see that the girls spend thier time in the apartment as work (show some nude and have this silly faked masturbations) while their "Real life" takes place only outside. The first moment there is a "Real Life" situation, by the visit of her boyfriend, they interrupted because of the cameras. That is not a good development, especially when you consider that this apartment now more than three months on-line. 

It is fine, when they do not want to have sex in front of the cameras. But this should also mean that they should not be residents of the project. ... I also do not know, why RLC is casted and contracted only half of couple. That does not make sense, i think. ... It is important that my criticism does not go against the girls but against the casting of RLC.

 

BTW, As mentioned, I'm ending my RLC time and therfore also my time on CC. To keep it that way it would be nice to balance my repuation to zero or less in my last days here. For this, I obviously need some help. So please, if you do not like this post do not hesitate. :)

Started with 257. :) ... way to slow ... more negativ reputation please :)

 

heu, si j'ai bien compris la traduction, vous voulez dire que parce que cela se passe dans des parties payantes, ils doivent obligatoirement vous donner du spectacle??!!! donc vous trouvez inadmissible qu'un jeune couple ne vous donne pas votre moment de porno, parce que vous êtes un membre payant de rlc??!! donc vous pensez que vos billets obligent les couples à faire du sexe devant vous, à chaque fois que vous le désirez, parce que vous payez?!! un peu comme une pute quoi?!! avez vous lu la FAQ de rlc? ou avez vous lu que le porno était obligatoire dans les parties payantes?!! si une filles à ses menstruations, ou qu'elle n'a pas envie ce soir là, ou simplement qu'elle a mal au cul, est-ce un motif de licenciement pour vous?!!! aucuns de vos dollars, ne vous donne le droit d'exigez quoi que ce soit ici!!! si vous voulez payer et exigez, allez voir des putes qui vous obéirons au doigt et à l'œil!!!

uh, if I understood the translation, you mean that because it happens in parts of pay, they are required to give you the show !!! ?? So you find it unacceptable that a young couple does not give you your moment of porn, because you are a paying member of rlc ?? !! So you think your tickets forcing couples to have sex in front of you, whenever you want, because you pay? !! a bit like a whore what? !! have you read the rlc FAQ? or have you read that porn was mandatory in paying parties? !! if a menstruating girls, or she does not want that night, or simply that it has pain in the ass, is grounds for dismissal for you? !!! Some of your dollars, gives you the right to demand anything here !!! if you want to pay and demand, go see whores that you obey the finger and the eye !!!

[MrBox]

 

heu, si j'ai bien compris la traduction, vous voulez dire que parce que cela se passe dans des parties payantes, ils doivent obligatoirement vous donner du spectacle??!!! donc vous trouvez inadmissible qu'un jeune couple ne vous donne pas votre moment de porno, parce que vous êtes un membre payant de rlc??!! donc vous pensez que vos billets obligent les couples à faire du sexe devant vous, à chaque fois que vous le désirez, parce que vous payez?!! un peu comme une pute quoi?!! avez vous lu la FAQ de rlc? ou avez vous lu que le porno était obligatoire dans les parties payantes?!! si une filles à ses menstruations, ou qu'elle n'a pas envie ce soir là, ou simplement qu'elle a mal au cul, est-ce un motif de licenciement pour vous?!!! aucuns de vos dollars, ne vous donne le droit d'exigez quoi que ce soit ici!!! si vous voulez payer et exigez, allez voir des putes qui vous obéirons au doigt et à l'œil!!!

uh, if I understood the translation, you mean that because it happens in parts of pay, they are required to give you the show !!! ?? So you find it unacceptable that a young couple does not give you your moment of porn, because you are a paying member of rlc ?? !! So you think your tickets forcing couples to have sex in front of you, whenever you want, because you pay? !! a bit like a whore what? !! have you read the rlc FAQ? or have you read that porn was mandatory in paying parties? !! if a menstruating girls, or she does not want that night, or simply that it has pain in the ass, is grounds for dismissal for you? !!! Some of your dollars, gives you the right to demand anything here !!! if you want to pay and demand, go see whores that you obey the finger and the eye !!!

No. That is not correct. .... I mean that the casting of RLC shoud find people that agree to the project. ... It is not a good idea trying to force people into something they do not want .... RLC should respect the residents. We should respect the residents.

If people have their "Real Life" outside and a just a show inside of the apartment, it it not what i expect. Just consider M&S as example. They do not have a porn live in thier apartment, even if they have sex. ... But they also do not run out of the apartment every time they want to have sex. ... That is what i am talking about.

[miscvoyeur]

3 hours ago, MrBox said:

No. That is not correct. .... I mean that the casting of RLC shoud find people that agree to the project. ... It is not a good idea trying to force people into something they do not want .... RLC should respect the residents. We should respect the residents.

If people have their "Real Life" outside and a just a show inside of the apartment, it it not what i expect. Just consider M&S as example. They do not have a porn live in thier apartment, even if they have sex. ... But they also do not run out of the apartment every time they want to have sex. ... That is what i am talking about.

I don't agree with Box on a lot of things, but on this I agree. I'm not even one of those that only watches RLC apartments just to see sex, as I do consider myself a "real" voyeur. However, when you get people that run off to have sex, then I do not feel they are the right fit for the project. These apartments should be filled with people who are true exhibitionists and not people who get uncomfortable at the thought of having sex in front of the cameras. I feel as if you're going to be nervous or scared about it, you shouldn't be there.

[StnCld316]

40 minutes ago, miscvoyeur said:

I don't agree with Box on a lot of things, but on this I agree. I'm not even one of those that only watches RLC apartments just to see sex, as I do consider myself a "real" voyeur. However, when you get people that run off to have sex, then I do not feel they are the right fit for the project. These apartments should be filled with people who are true exhibitionists and not people who get uncomfortable at the thought of having sex in front of the cameras. I feel as if you're going to be nervous or scared about it, you shouldn't be there.

The Girls were in an Exhibitionist Mode until Fidel showed up. Now that he's there the Apartment has gotten boring very fast.

[HarleyFatboy]

4 hours ago, corboblanc said:

heu, si j'ai bien compris la traduction, vous voulez dire que parce que cela se passe dans des parties payantes, ils doivent obligatoirement vous donner du spectacle??!!! donc vous trouvez inadmissible qu'un jeune couple ne vous donne pas votre moment de porno, parce que vous êtes un membre payant de rlc??!! donc vous pensez que vos billets obligent les couples à faire du sexe devant vous, à chaque fois que vous le désirez, parce que vous payez?!! un peu comme une pute quoi?!! avez vous lu la FAQ de rlc? ou avez vous lu que le porno était obligatoire dans les parties payantes?!! si une filles à ses menstruations, ou qu'elle n'a pas envie ce soir là, ou simplement qu'elle a mal au cul, est-ce un motif de licenciement pour vous?!!! aucuns de vos dollars, ne vous donne le droit d'exigez quoi que ce soit ici!!! si vous voulez payer et exigez, allez voir des putes qui vous obéirons au doigt et à l'œil!!!

uh, if I understood the translation, you mean that because it happens in parts of pay, they are required to give you the show !!! ?? So you find it unacceptable that a young couple does not give you your moment of porn, because you are a paying member of rlc ?? !! So you think your tickets forcing couples to have sex in front of you, whenever you want, because you pay? !! a bit like a whore what? !! have you read the rlc FAQ? or have you read that porn was mandatory in paying parties? !! if a menstruating girls, or she does not want that night, or simply that it has pain in the ass, is grounds for dismissal for you? !!! Some of your dollars, gives you the right to demand anything here !!! if you want to pay and demand, go see whores that you obey the finger and the eye !!!

I like you Corbo but you need to get a life!

[mr1010]

2 hours ago, miscvoyeur said:

I don't agree with Box on a lot of things, but on this I agree. I'm not even one of those that only watches RLC apartments just to see sex, as I do consider myself a "real" voyeur. However, when you get people that run off to have sex, then I do not feel they are the right fit for the project. These apartments should be filled with people who are true exhibitionists and not people who get uncomfortable at the thought of having sex in front of the cameras. I feel as if you're going to be nervous or scared about it, you shouldn't be there.

I agree with you. Obviously we don't expect them to have sex if they are not having sex or bating if they do not bate. But if they run off somewhere to have their sex then they are preventing  a true voyeur experience.

And most of them are exhibitionists. I am surprised if many of them do not get off on showing us stuff. Some like Masha are truly full exhibitionists. So is Efim's gf and Nelly. And Leora used to be. So was Irma and later Anna. Nora was. Adriana and Daniel have anal for god's sake.

But Kami and Kristy were so popular that they have the leverage over RLC and the viewers. So if they don't want to show us stuff they just don't. That really isn't right. Same thing with most of the Barce girls. Nora, Irma and Elisa and somewhat Anna were the exceptions. The rest just hide it.

Why exactly is Rita here? They must have badly needed another girl and Rita is very cute and attractive, albeit aloof. But she shows nothing. But hey, she has a roof over her head while studying the Spanish she doesn't need to know.

Well, that is my take on stuff. I do still love K & K and I like Elisa a lot, but I am not always satisfied with what especially k & K show. And those stroking things look so false. The girls are not in love and we know it, so stop putting on the pretense! They know we know it, but some guys here are so hopelessly hooked on the idea that the girls are in love, so they continue with the charade. It was the same thing earlier  with Adele and Danaya. At least K & K were good actresses and could somewhat pull it off. A & D did the phoniest tit grabbing I have ever seen! Yet guys were talking about oh maybe they do love each other and will have sex. Only Irma and Anna had a bit of a true experience for a bit. i will never forget Anna's face when Irma ate her tits. She was so freaking turned on! But she remembered last minute, wait a minute, i am not gay.

[bookmaster8]

Wow. I just now had a chance to read this thread. I don't know how much, if any, of these arguments came about from my first post. But, just to make it clear, I was not complaining at all about a lack of sexual activity or a lack of nudity. 

The whole purpose of my first post in this thread was to simply specify that I found Kristy's bf's treatment of her to be crappy. I didn't understand why he was acting like she wasn't even there or, if she was, then she was irrelevant to him because all of his phone calls and photo and message scrolling were far more important to him than anything that she wanted. I thought his behavior, at best, was quite rude.

I watched it for about one and a half hours and saw practically no affection from him at all while she kept seemingly flirting with him by wrapping her legs around him, giving him flirty smiles and gestures and more. I had cut away briefly during that one and a half hours twice, but neither time was that long at all. 

Based on the replies I got to my post, apparently there was something that went on while they were on the balcony (although since there is no camera out there, it's not totally clear what happened). I didn't see that. So, it affected my assessment of what was going on between them. I don't know whether that post had anything to do with all the angry replies or not. If it did, I apologize for posting my reaction to what I personally saw. Then again, that's what I thought forums were all about. 

 

[corboblanc]

il y a une heure, bookmaster8 a dit :

Wow. I just now had a chance to read this thread. I don't know how much, if any, of these arguments came about from my first post. But, just to make it clear, I was not complaining at all about a lack of sexual activity or a lack of nudity. 

The whole purpose of my first post in this thread was to simply specify that I found Kristy's bf's treatment of her to be crappy. I didn't understand why he was acting like she wasn't even there or, if she was, then she was irrelevant to him because all of his phone calls and photo and message scrolling were far more important to him than anything that she wanted. I thought his behavior, at best, was quite rude.

I watched it for about one and a half hours and saw practically no affection from him at all while she kept seemingly flirting with him by wrapping her legs around him, giving him flirty smiles and gestures and more. I had cut away briefly during that one and a half hours twice, but neither time was that long at all. 

Based on the replies I got to my post, apparently there was something that went on while they were on the balcony (although since there is no camera out there, it's not totally clear what happened). I didn't see that. So, it affected my assessment of what was going on between them. I don't know whether that post had anything to do with all the angry replies or not. If it did, I apologize for posting my reaction to what I personally saw. Then again, that's what I thought forums were all about. 

 

personnellement, je ne visais pas votre post, mais plutôt certaines réactions que je trouvent déplacées. les parties payantes de rlc, ne garantissent pas le sexe. les participantes, comme kristy ou kamila, ont une vie ordinaire de 2 jeunes femmes vivant dans une ville russe. même si elles acceptent un certain degré d'exhibition, cela ne veut pas dire qu'elle n'ont pas de mal à faire du porno sur internet. elles sont gênées et c'est normal. c'est cela qui donne un aspect réaliste au concept de rlc, bien plus que des professionnelles comme irma, ilona ou elisa, qui ne vivent que par le sexe!!!! nous pouvons tous avoir des avis différents sur ce que montre ou pas les filles, mais pas d'exiger du spectacle parce que nous payons. beaucoup de membres ne payent pas pour avoir du spectacle porno, mais pour découvrir des filles et des couples, dans leur quotidien, loin de chez nous. plus leur vie nous parait normale, plus le concept rlc à du sens....

personally, I was not aiming your post, but some reactions I are displaced. Pay the parts of rlc, do not guarantee sex. participating as kristy kamila or have an ordinary life of two young women in a Russian city. even if they accept a certain degree of exhibition, that does not mean it does not hurt to do porn on the internet. they are embarrassed and this is normal. this is what gives a realistic look at the concept of rlc, much as professional as Irma, Ilona or Elisa, who live only by sex !!!! we all have different opinions on what is shown or not girls, but not to require the show because we pay. many members do not pay for porn show, but to discover girls and couples in their day away from home. more normal life seems to us, the more the concept rlc to sense ....

[mr1010]

16 hours ago, albacore said:

Now it's really starting to rain bullshit.  Who here is pro RLC.  It's like being pro HBO or pro NBC ?!    It a tv show that you can't change.  I agree with spoon.  Sometimes the complaining get tiresome.  I try not to read it but sometimes its embedded in a post.  I could care less about RLC - and quite frankly they seem heavy handed these days.  But they are them and we arn't

All or the posts about what is real and what should be real and what it would be like if it were real and real looks different than this and .....  It doesn't matter.  People are people.  They are all human and they will want privacy from time to time.  I don't like it but it is what it is.

How many here would live their lives as they normally do in front of cameras without changing anything.  Probably no one.  Now you could say they should not have taken the job to live their then.  I may agree but realistically human nature takes over.   We all know this.

The only way to achieve the kind of "real" that most here want is to have hidden cameras that are truly unknown to the tenets.  Obviously this woould be illegal and clearly unethical.  But it would achieve what people seem to want from RLC tenets.  However if they go out and have sex at the other persons home like I have many times then we would be in a similar situation.  

I think most of these tenets show and give us a lot - many times forgetting about the cameras I believe.  But lets be real.  They are always there looking at them and for the most part they ignore them well. Much better than I could or most here I bet.

OK go ahead - crap all over me now.

Why would anyone crap over you pal? This is a thoughtful post.