Deepdave

42 minutes ago, girlsfun2 said:

My dear Deep,

Try as much as you want, always the same story...
But every time you intervene, you always get approvals and always the same approvals, right after your comments and it's like automatic, do you find it strange...Unless you have a gang of followers like in a cult. But even then, it's cheap as hell and it's unfortunate for those followers...If that's the case, at least you have some good propaganda.😀
But if it makes you happy, we can let you go. 😉
But, for this time, you'll have to add 1 more apple for your favorite teacher.😜
P.S. Ok Let's go back to Martina and Alfredo (my nickname for Alberto)

 

I repeat, there is no conspiracy.  Just good old honesty.  I have people who like what I say and you don’t like what I say.  Too bad.  You are definitely not my teacher.  No apples for you.  But I will wish you a happy Thanksgiving (I’m from Canada).

8 hours ago, girlsfun2 said:

Stop using your multiple accounts to self-approve, it feels very cheap, especially since you are seeking judgment based solely on the notice of the respones, your own respones...
Self-glorifying in this manner is like a student cheating to get a passing grade for a degree but we all know it's worthless.
Your favorite teacher!
P.S. Because of this, bring 2 apples for the next class...  

You have this desperate theory that I have many duplicate accounts in order to make myself look good.  That's an explanation a child would use.  No, I do not have duplicate accounts.  I have forum contributors who agree with me.  That seems to be very difficult for you to accept.  If they agreed with you you would get positive comments.  Try to get positive comments rather than try to demean me.  It might make you a happy person.

1 hour ago, Deepdave said:

Did you take notice of the respones, one person was sad (perhaps they agree with you), 2 persons laughed (perhaps because they saw the humour and sarcasm in my response to you) and mosty important the 6 likes (now 7) and upvotes that approved of my post.  You received all of your responses based on Nelly's attendance at Martina's to visit and have dinner with her parents and that this was taken as  sign of their continued sexual attraction and desire.  I wonder if you would have gotten the same response if they had known that Nelly would not travel with Martina back to her hometown as in previous times.

What is dumb, is that you have not pointed out that you are the one with an "intellectual impairment and ethical currency".  Who would use this phrase is beyond me.  It is "so" someone trying to act smart, but isn't.  Keep trying.

Thank you Yelt for your valued but contrary reaction.

2 hours ago, philo said:

I don't recall that I made any mention of a trip.  None at all! But my point was that people with impaired intellectual and ethical currency will ignore that fact and will make up facts of their own. They provide the evidence of their "alternate" facts in their own words. Everyone will notice who was offended and who responded... apparently they felt the  need to associate themselves with the behavior that I described. Now that is dumb!

Did you take notice of the respones, one person was sad (perhaps they agree with you), 2 persons laughed (perhaps because they saw the humour and sarcasm in my response to you) and mosty important the 6 likes (now 7) and upvotes that approved of my post.  You received all of your responses based on Nelly's attendance at Martina's to visit and have dinner with her parents and that this was taken as  sign of their continued sexual attraction and desire.  I wonder if you would have gotten the same response if they had known that Nelly would not travel with Martina back to her hometown as in previous times.

What is dumb, is that you have not pointed out that you are the one with an "intellectual impairment and ethical currency".  Who would use this phrase is beyond me.  It is "so" someone trying to act smart, but isn't.  Keep trying.

10 hours ago, philo said:

It's been more than a year now and the people on this forum who announced that the relationship between Martina and Nelly was over continue to try and remain relevant by repeating that claim. However, being a respected member of the forum requires more. Although these people provide no evidence to support their claim, they continue to persist with the hope that their assertion is a good substitute for facts. The think that way because of their perceived self status which has become embolden because there are people now in the public discourse who are equally as stupid, but who still have become "famous". They claim, here, that the absence of intimacy on camera means that there is no intimacy. Most people learn early in life that the absence of evidence is not evidence. But here on this forum, these people get to ignore the poor grades they got in grade school and find redemption on their key board... that does not judge them (except for the algorithm that corrects their spelling). They rejoice that they may find on this forum, some kindred spirit who will agree with them and occasionally join them in a wanton display of sheer ignorance. Most will just choose just to ignore them.    

You must be disappointed that Nelly did not go on holiday with Martina.  I guess that’s one point in favour of the people who think that their sexual relationship is finished. You will get more chances in the future to make up more stories with your extremely high intellectual prowess. You are just too smart for us.  We are just Soooo dumb.

30 minutes ago, girlsfun2 said:

It depends...whether you approve your own comments with your other accounts, it's cheap but in your case, you have no choice, you understand that one...

P.S Interesting idea: I'm the teacher and a woman too so you really don't appreciate it....A woman who dares to make you question yourself, that's no fun for you....So go to the corner of the classroom for the rest of your day....but I like difficult cases...Listen to the teacher and bring an apple for tomorrow !!! LOL   

Wow - You have done it again.  You have said nothing.  Congratulations.  I predict that you will say that you were playing a game that you have tricked me to play,  You win again.  You are amazing and you didn’t even know it.  

27 minutes ago, girlsfun2 said:

Once again, you have fallen into the trap.😆
I'll have to find something else, you make it too easy for me but at least you make me laugh, keep it up, I love you like that.

On the other hand, you put a little variation in your usual copy/paste, that's good. LOL 

It is so easy to make you laugh.  You are so good at this game.  I could never win.  You make me so sad.  Now I am crying.  

7 minutes ago, girlsfun2 said:

No, Alfredo doesn't know everything about Martina. He knows that she has a love and sex life outside and that suits him as long as he is not left out and he doesn't know the details, it doesn't matter to him. It gives him security, as it does for Martina, to have someone close to him that he can count on in times of some need.  

Indeed, as you mention, living in this type of relationship is not common. To maintain a close relationship with someone of polygamy (Martina), it is not obvious for the majority of the world. For my part, I would not be able to do it either. 

But, I appreciate these observations between all of us on Martina and Alfredo, it allows us to make judgments on our own lives and in some measure, what is the notion of pleasure in life. Isn't it also one of the goals of this forum?

P.S. Of course for some people in the forum, their only goal is to have fun criticizing others without ever bringing their own ideas. This part of the population brings, unfortunately, nothing to the society but we have to live with it and take for granted that they are at a 'different' learning level in life.  It is unfortunate that some people want to stay at this level and cause a lot of 'noise' to prove to others that they exist. Fortunately, some learn that there are other ways. For those who are narcissists, well...it takes a lot more, like getting help, which goes against their own personality. Sad.

 

Hi GF2

The description that you have provided, being critical of others, no ideas, low learning level, noisy, narcissist, and needs help, perfectly describes yourself.  I could not have said it any better. Thank you. 

19 minutes ago, philo said:

You are trying to answer a question that I did not ask. I don't need anyone to tell me what their relationship is since I have seen him be intimate with her...that's why I stated watching this apartment. Whether he is her "lover" or not, I watched him stroke her thighs, snuggle her neck and bite her hair. 

I have heard from an unreliable source that Dani is part masseuse, part vampire and part hairdresser.  But I do not believe that she had an orgasm from this encounter which I believe you saw once and have repeated over and over and over again.  It would seem that this happens every time she sees him and thus he is her secret lover, for sure, NOT. 

14 minutes ago, daerjohn2015 said:

Hij mag dan wel alles weten over Martina, maar wat een zielige open relatie. Moet je zo verder door het leven?

It's only pathetic because you think it's pathetic.  There are only 2 people who decide whether it is pathitic or not and that's Martina and Alberto,

With your definition of "pathetic life", I would say that everyone in the world lives a pathetic life.  How pathetic!!

24 minutes ago, girlsfun2 said:

Alfredo sleeping, Martina plans her next night with her cell in the bedroom. She has so many hours to spend for fun, why stay in front of the tv and just a little fuck with Alfredo and watch tv again....

What will be the activities of the next night...we can call it "the missing link" that we miss to understand what Martina is doing outside....well, we have good ideas...

Sweet dreams Alfredo.... We're watching out for you on our side....

Isn't it frustrating for you not to know what Martina is doing off cam.

It's a good thing that you have a very good imagination but you must realize that you know very little.

It's a good thing that Alberto knows everything that Martina does (because she tells him) and that's why they continue to love each other.

It's fun that we trust our translator because we know a lot more than you.

49 minutes ago, berty_47 said:

The normal procedure: Went to the guest room this afternoon to jerk off to a nice orgasm.
Then fucked for an exit ticket: next orgasm rubbed on Alberto's knee, juice ran out of her pussy.
Then at 19:07 disappeared.
This afternoon she spoke to Luis on the phone (pretty sure). Tonight she took her old laptop with her. She got a new one a few days ago. No more speculation...
Alberto really is that naive. He thinks she's satisfied now, on the contrary she's just warming up.

"No more speculation" and then in the next sentrnce you speculate.   Don't you thnk that Martina could be satisfied with 2 very nice orgasms?  

2 hours ago, girlsfun2 said:

Considering that many people here (me too) need a lot of professional help, maybe we can get an interesting price in group?

Do we ask RLC for an additional package of professional help?

I imagine us all in Martina's living room talking about our stresses and we could also do a little zootherapy with Taco or the fish tank ?

Or all of us in the bathroom when Alfredo is showering, helping us to focus?

Or powerful testimonies by surprise guests, like Nelly who would tell us about her Russian origins and the discovery of her sexuality when she set foot in Barcelona? Or the first time she parked a car in a parking lot with Martina's help (the famous parking lot episode)?

Seriously. we need a lot of help, you know! 

 

We should thank Jenn for pointing this out.  Thank you Jenn.  You are lucky because GF2 and I agree with you   When do we get started?

10 hours ago, JenniferMom said:

I am surprised that you two and a few others believe all these speculations are wild fantasies.  With the possible exception for the speculation that Martina is a prostitute (which was not a fantasy but a hypothesis based on hundreds of hours of watching this couple) … I don’t think anyone is expressing wild fantasies about Martina.

The fact of the matter is that Martina spends significant time away from Alberto partying.  Most of us are simply speculating what she does when she is away from “the love of her life”.  I don’t see how these are fantasies.  I’ve stated many times before that you could likely be correct … she goes out and parties but stays faithful to Alberto.

But it’s also possible … being bisexual … that she hooks up when she is out over night.  This is not a fantasy but a conjecture.  She’s done it before.  The issue to me is not that your speculation - that this couple is solid - is correct … but how vociferously you defend these two.  That itself seems to suggest you either know them or have some other agenda here.

To think we gang up on this couple is ludicrous and suggests perhaps you and Kris need professional help rather than the rest of us which are simply responding to what we see on cam.

I definitely need professional help.  Thanks for your professional help.  It helped a great deal.  I hope you do not need professional help as well!!

29 minutes ago, Mark Thompson said:

obviously Alfredo .... slept in the guest room because he didn't want to sleep on the wet spot ... !

Why would Martina pee on her bed?  More likely, she squirted during an orgasm.  That’s why she had the cloth.  She has done this before.  She must have felt good after their fuck early last night.

8 minutes ago, JenniferMom said:

So no matter what Martina does, you will always spin it in a positive fashion?   And you believe most of us are irrational?

Can we stipulate that we ALL like this couple?    Please anyone, respond  here if  you do not like this couple.  I  am guessing if you do not like this couple, you are not going to be  wasting time on this thread.

We all like Martina & Alberto.  I know even the guy that speculated  she was a prostitute, he loved her and was concerned about her.  Many here are very concerned about her still to this day.  

But few defend her as if they are her attorney.   I  simply don't get it.  

You don/t read all my comments.  I acknowledge that they are not the average couple with one partner.  Over and over again I have said that Martina is bi-sexual and Alberto accepts this. But I do not gang up on them when I see the forum making weird and abnormal speculations.  They have their own rules and  if you don't accept them, too bad.

I do not believe that most of you are irrational, but many of you do make up fantasies.

We all like this couple so tell them so.

She is not a prostitute.  That is a made up fantasy.

I am not their attorney but I comment when I see bullshit.

51 minutes ago, JenniferMom said:

Again, how do you know this is the reason?   To me, being irritated for her being out all night  ... or perhaps finding the guest room bed more comfortable ... seem to be equally likely explanations.  But as always, you choose to push the explanation that puts these two in the best light possible.   At the  end of the day, the reason WHY Alerto slept in the guest room is purely a speculation.  Another explanation hinted at here:   He  slept in the guest room because Martina peed the bed!!  Of course!  That might be  the best explanation to be honest!  🙂 

By and  large I agree with this.  These two appear to be very considerate of each other for a couple that shares few interests other than fucking on camera.

Hi Jenn

Ooops I did it again.  I said something that sounded definitive rather than giving my opinion.  I will always project these two "in the best possible light" because I like them.  It is speculation and not fact because Alberto did not tell me why he slept in the Guest Room.  Sorry.  In the future I will specify whether it is speculation or I got the information from watching their actions or whether I got information from a translator.  My bad.

13 minutes ago, Pete1960 said:

Pretty sure it was Alberto, not Alfredo

When he does not want to disturb Martina in the morning, he sometimes sleeps in the Guest room and sometimes she sleeps in the guest room if she is having rouble sleeping.  They are very consideerate of each other.

1 hour ago, girlsfun2 said:

And now the BIG question:
Given that Martina's weekend and sometimes weeknight activity has become a habit, when will Martina bring home her 'NEW FWB ?  We all waiting for that. RLC is missing big $$$$ here...

Usually when you are in a new 'serious' relationship, you gradually bring this new person to your apartment to enjoy your home together.

And the question everyone asks: what do you do with Alberto? The same damn answer as before: Alberto spends his time on the PlayStation or his cell phone or his nap and waits for his turn... Everyone remembers the episode when Martina brought Nelly to the apartment.

It's as simple as that !

No NEW FWB.  Too bad.  Maybe tomorrow night. Porto necessary to imagine Martina being bad tonight.

12 minutes ago, Mark Thompson said:

not important but my curiosity asks ...where is Alerto.... maybe he is meeting with Martina ??? all this speculation on affairs !!  I love affairs mysteries ... 

In guest room

18 minutes ago, girlsfun2 said:

 It's like the old days, when kids were supposed to clean their plates at every meal...nowadays, women sometimes have a little more to do to finish there plates. In Martina's case, the bar is set high to finish her plates...

Sometimes men have the same problem.😊

11 minutes ago, philo said:

Alberto did not get the job done unfortunately. Martina is taking things in her own hands now in the guest room.

All good ladies take things into their own hands.  As Adalbert says Leora, but so does Nelly and Holly and and Carla and Masha.

37 minutes ago, girlsfun2 said:

Taking shower together and the usual private talk in the war room.

Something strange, if me and my boyfriend take a shower together (which we often do on vacation in luxurious bathrooms), I'm sure that my boyfriend will want to do much more than take a shower, he can't resist even if he's tired or in an 'altered' state...And much fun... 

Maybe Martina and Alberto are too used to their 'regular' bathroom.... 

 

Too late. Martina and Alberto made love in the kitchen.  It was a good old stand up fuck.  Fast and furious.  Martina looks happy.  Alberto looks happy.

52 minutes ago, girlsfun2 said:

Deer Deep,

Oh ! My little boy, making comments like that about woman in 2022 is really not a winner. There's a rule of law that says: "never try to incriminate yourself". A rule that's not too hard to understand for 99.9% of the world. 

Once again, let's go back to Martina and by the way, if you don't know,  Martina is a woman and she has a free spirit like me....

You’re absolutely right.  I should not have incriminated myself. You are wonderful for pointing this out to me.  Of course I should have realized that Martina and you are free spirited women.  Have a happy and safe day.  Good luck. LOL

4 hours ago, girlsfun2 said:

Strange the way you think, you are really in your 'world' no matter what is going on around you. You are not able to understand simple sentences, that's serious.
Unfortunately, this is the lot of many people in society today. A piece of advice, get treated, I'm serious here, no LOL. 
Unfortunately, you will not be able to understand what I just wrote but we will let you live in your world but stay wisely in your corner. 

P.S. Since you are the same person, I will copy and paste the same text, I'm a nice person to help you.

 

 

I also give up.  You have worn me out.  You are such a great debater and a "nice person" and it will be impossible to convince you of anything or impress upon you anything that we wish to say.  You have seen through our plot.  Dalbert and I are the same person.  You were very perceptive to notice our unsuccessful series of postings.  You are the best.  Good luck. LOL.