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  1. 37 minutes ago, Aussie_oi_oi said:

    FORGIVE ME FOR POSTING THIS.

    But Leora loves animals it's for her.

    Now this wonderful mare Winks is the greatest horse of all time won her 33 races in a row. Just think about that 33 races. Never be equalled or the record beat.

    Her retirement after this race is well earned. I was lucky to see her win at Flemington. ( home of the Melbourne Cup)

    Enjoy because the world won't see her like again. An Amazing horse and the world couldn't find another horse that could beat this Aussie horse.

     

     

    An astonishing horse. There is no doubt about that and I can't imagine any British horse running on the flat at the age of 8!

    As for whether she is GOAT? Well we did have a horse in England early in decade called Frankel the wonder horse. He won all 14 of his races. I don't think he went off 1-25 like Winks but was 1-10 against the joint 2nd and joint 5th ranked in the world and won by 11 lengths. Also I read about a tremendous finish by Winks whereas I have witnessed Frankel destroy a field in the first furlong although I am also sure I have seen him behind at some stage in his career! 

    Of course this is only on the flat so not real horse racing 😉 LOL

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  2. Robwin - this is about mechanism. We have the European Political thread to go political.

    We are now leaving at Hallowe'en ... maybe. It could be earlier as there is some vague talk about having a reassessment on June 30th but will the pending EU elections concentrate minds to go even earlier? Maybe but I doubt it. It could be later but that seems unlikely.
    There are people waiting for May to go and since her deal was rejected she may decide to stay until Xmas since technically the Conservative Party cannot call for another vote of no confidence before then. That promise to go did persuade many ... too political to talk about here ... but not the most fervent Brexiteers or the DUP. Nobody really knows how the talks between the 2 main parties are going. And outside the leadership it would be fair to say there is great suspicion that neither set of leaders represent the views of the MPs or the members.   

  3. Well who knows what is going on? The Conservative (Tory) - Labour talks are in deadlock. The House of Commons appears to be waiting for whatever happens with May. The House of Lords has voted that May must ask for an extension making it statute. May is asking for an extension anyway. She's hoping for June 30th - political point that this interferes with the social season of the Tories (Henley, Wimbledon, Lord's Test Match, Royal Ascot  ... and maybe even the Debutante's Ball) and that tends to upset the Tory grandees and there families - but - and this sentence it being to feel like Brexit - the Europeans are likely to have lost all faith that that is a realistic aim since she still is not compromising.

    But what "really grinds their gears" is that the EU elections are coming up which means the people the UK will send are likely to hate Europe and the right wing of the Conservative party has said they should disrupt the European parliament - like 5 year old children - if elected or worse UKIP will be back who disrupt as a matter of course, all because of a failure of our PM, cabinet, government and parliament. Remember the EU have had no say in this. Ireland is a member of their club and of course they are going to support them rather than a nation that intends to leave as soon as it can find the right door. So they are already annoyed and I think just maybe they might push it another year tomorrow but then May has been unable to deliver.   

  4. 4 hours ago, SPYING 1 said:

    Do you actually read those articles?

    Do you see that it mentions different cultural attitudes which might explain the differences? Are there any events you can think of which might make the UK particularly sensitive to sexual crimes? Well yes there are and that trend has been going on since early in this decade.

    In the second article it says:

    When comparing statistics in the EU it is important to bear in mind that countries record data differently and state laws vary greatly on what constitutes rape, so figures show the number of crimes that are reported—not committed.

    which strangely is just about what I said except I already know this. I didn't have to look it up.

    And again you were arguing about the fact that firearms made rape less likely so I am really struggling to see how you are comparing Western Europe with the US because you are not. And obviously you can't. I know you are not going to give up just keep searching the internet for some keywords without any depth of analysis about what you are actually reading. I might as well be arguing with a Google search engine.

    The UK is a violent society so just imagine what would happen if we had guns. The US's firearm homicide rate is 70 times the UK's. 70 times is pretty remarkable. The worst in Western Europe is Italy which is still about 8% of the US rate and they have the Mafia.

  5. 6 minutes ago, SPYING 1 said:
    WWW.BBC.COM

    Swedish national TV says 58% of men convicted of rape in the past five years were born abroad.

     

    How have you extrapolated out from this to connecting to gun law in Europe. That's an amazing leap.
    First of all Sweden has changed its definition of rape which would lead to more convictions in itself.

    But your actual point is about immigration and here we move on to cultural differences. The laws in Syria and Afghanistan are I am certain very different. These are not necessarily new arrivals (37% of the population of London was born abroad). However, because of the civil war in Syria or more accurately Asad and Iran's war against Saudi Arabia which IS got involved in bringing in Russia, US, UK etc., a couple of years ago there was mass immigration into Sweden from Syria with some Afghans tagging along. This all came about due to Merkel inviting all the refugees into Germany and Sweden going along with them. It was probably not a sensible move because it encouraged a mass migration across Europe and in terms of population the influx into Sweden was bigger than even to Germany.

    So this a particular set of circumstances. In the UK we have had cultural problems with the Pakistani community and quite frankly some of the exploitative teachings of the Saudi sponsored mosques which really should have been more controlled. But this is nothing to do with guns and I am sure in Sweden, as it is in the UK, the problem is being addressed. For Sweden who have never had mass immigration on this scale before (and in percentage terms, the Mexican border is a drop in the ocean compared to this) this has been a shock to the system. But the Sweden only represents 2.5% of the population of Western Europe with the other 97.5% having different laws and measurements. 

    But the number of convictions for rape in Sweden is still well below that in the United States, again less than a quarter.in line with the average in NW Europe. 

     

  6. On 4/4/2019 at 10:58 AM, Dave 27 said:

    I have to call you out on your remark SNP pretend etc,etc,.Some of us wish to be a separate country  but until we can achieve this(if at all) there is know pretence  whatsover here.Scotland as you well know is still part of the UK and to say we "pretend" is an insult to our intelligence.Some of us (the minority) wish to be independent but until that happens we are still integrated in the UK governmental system albeit with a devolved government.As for your opinion on our referendum I am assuming you are an expert on Scottish politics,opinions and attitudes.

    I shan't engage with you on the rest but the SNP held an independence referendum and voted to stay in the UK - I would have voted for independence myself had I been Scottish (and I lived in Scotland for 5 years and have several Scottish friends almost none of whom live in Scotland any longer) - but that having happened the vote was a national one (as in nation state recognised by the UN) which is what I meant. So of course Scotland a seperate country (I apologise for that) but in the context of EU referendum it was not and should abide by the result. I would have been delighted if this had been a federal decision (at 2-2 not conclusive) but it was not it was a UK decision and that was always clear. Come to the European Political forum and we can discuss it further there. I am sure you can find much to criticise me on but I will defend myself.

     

     

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  7. 1 hour ago, SPYING 1 said:

    The rape rate in Europe has sky rocketed, i'm glad i live in a state that has a STAND your GROUND law

    Where do you get this information from?

    First of all rate of rape crime is extremely difficult to tell since it is dependent on culture, the current state of the law where the crime is committed and vitally that includes the definition of rape. These make comparison virtually impossible.

    Second, recorded figures in the US are still quite a bit higher than for Western Europe

    Third, none of this is direct evidence of firearms laws having anything to do with the rate of rape. In fact the only way you could measure it is if you changed firearms laws in a US state while keeping everything else the same. Everything else is speculation. Statistic are hard to read as there are other factors. Because there was a clear religious/racial element to the Rotherham case then a large part of that was a fear of politicians, civil servants and police of being accused of racism which is a social factor which has now presumably ended. This is part of what makes figures hard to look at. We see figures trend and we investigate why. Often we do that by applying complex regression methods but they can also lead to incorrect conclusions. Don't get me wrong the figures provide clues to what is worth investigating, but it needs serious research my qualified people which costs public money that people are unwilling to spend.   
     

  8. 39 minutes ago, SPYING 1 said:

    I'm sure 

    How are you sure?

    About 1400 young girls were abused in Rotherham, Yorkshire. I don't think that guns would have made any difference whatsoever because it didn't happen with the parents' knowledge - actually many were in care. But occasionally weapons like guns and knives were involved in the abuse.
    Homicide rate in the US is 4* what it is in NW Europe and 8* what it is in SE Europe. 

  9. Yvette Cooper's bill - it won by one vote - has put forward that the PM needs to ask for another extension BUT not only does the House of Lords have to ratify it but if and when they do there is no guarantee the EU will accept it. I don't know about this because it seemed next week was concentrating May and Corbyn's minds. 

  10. 20 hours ago, Foamy T. Squirrel said:

    How many factors in a UK person's life should be controlled and dictated by group of nations that are hell-bent on their own gains?

    I haven't heard an answer from English CC members on that yet...

    The technical answer to that is that doesn't really happen. Of course it is in the interest of some to claim that it does.

  11. From the BBC to save me explaining:

    Here is a brief rundown of the amendments that have been tabled to tonight's bill:

    • 13 & 14 - tabled by Labour's Yvette Cooper: This is a simple re-drafting of parts of the bill
    • 20 - tabled by Tory MP George Eustice: Limits the extension to 30 June
    • 21 - tabled by Tory MP George Eustice: Takes out the requirement for the prime minister to put the EU’s chosen extension date to MPs
    • 22 - tabled by Brexit Secretary Stephen Barclay: Ensures that nothing in this bill rules out the government extending Article 50 in a different way
    • 1 - tabled by Tory MP Anne Main: Limits the government to a 22 May extension
    • 6 - tabled by Tory MP Sir Bill Cash: Ensures the extension is subject to approval by the devolved bodies
    • New Clause 4 - tabled by Tory MP Sir Bill Cash: Prevents amendments to standing orders during these extension motions - standing orders are the rules that govern the proceedings of Parliament
    • New Clause 5 - tabled by Tory MP Sir Bill Cash: Limits an extension to 22 May
    • New Clause 7 - tabled by Tory MP Sir Bill Cash: Ensures that an extension would not result in the UK taking part in elections to the European Parliament
    • New Clause 13 - tabled by Brexit Secretary Stephen Barclay: Amends the EU Withdrawal Act to make it easier to change the exit date in UK law

    Just to explain who Bill Cash is. He's been about the most fervent anti-EU MP for a very long time. Most thought he would join UKIP. He never did but it is where he belonged. Not quite sure why the Brexit Secretary is the Brexit Secretary because he like most of the cabinet does not seem to mind leaving on a No Deal which the house of Commons has voted out and I think May has now ruled out although the EU may kick us out with No Deal anyway.

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  12. 18 hours ago, ipiratemedia said:

    A higher percentage of the British people say, Brexit has never been the will of the people – Yes, we are similar. To use the whip or not: Whether and when party group leaders use disciplinary measures to achieve voting unity. Corbyn's critics say a better opposition leader could defeat the Tories and prevent a ruinous departure from the EU. Some even argue that he is complicit in the disaster that awaits his country. IMO, they're wrong... 19.gif.2c08cf8d0d257117d8193ada81c4864f.gif

    Don't start me on Corbyn, joey! LOL And of course there is a further problem in that the SNP pretend they are in a separate country and have shown no respect to their own referendum but that's an entirely different story and the DUP who have noticed that Northern Ireland voted to Remain. Today the leaders of the Scottish and Welsh parliament/assembly will also be consulted but of course, since nobody in Northern Ireland will sit with any one else and Sinn Fein won't even sit in the UK parliament, Northern Ireland don't even have an active assembly.

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  13. 19 hours ago, Foamy T. Squirrel said:

    The situation looks to me like a bloody mess.

    That's the correct description.

    But I wanted this thread to be about process rather than politics. We do have a European political thread which you started.
    Definitely May has made an attempt to change the game

  14. May has now decided to talk to Corbyn - 2 years after she called an election to back her visit of Brexit which lead to the Tories losing their majority. As the Tory whip - I presume you have an equivalent in your country but they are in charge of party discipline - said she should have been more honest about her chances. Once a PM loses their majority they are always in trouble unless they ensure control though a coalition. She chose not to do this and apparently even lied to The Queen about it. Because of this the last 2 years have been a waste of time.

    Again I want to avoid politics but what happens if the 2 leaders can't agree on a path and given both are stubborn and it is against Corbyn's nature to agree with anything, this is highly likely to be the outcome?
    Secretly, and this is politics, I think she is doing this in order to trump whatever happens on Wednesday. 

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