Nina & Alan and Serena - Part #2

[GOING, Going, gone]

11 hours ago, Just In said:

 

I think he knows that he doesn't have to hit her all the time but he always shows he has to be dominating by either holding her arms behind her back or pinning her down by the neck. And yes this is with her consent.

 

I once knew a guy who started out as a hand manipulator.  He masturbated all the time.  He progressed from hands, to pillows, to pill bottle, to a vibrator with him placing himself between the vibrating heads, and then to a 'tengo sex toy', and now very satisfied with tengo and hands.  He continues to look for other ways to take himself, as he wants the best.  That's how I see progression.  And if progression is looking for the next best orgasm, I still seek 'the best'.  Serena perhaps has done that same progression and finds that in domination the orgasms are better.  It progresses from simple hand restraints to doggy style neck pressure restraints.   I just hope her progression doesn't go 'too far'.  And, I am hoping George never loses awareness consciousness while dominating for an orgasm and hurts Serena severely.  MHO.

[SPYING 1]

Is that a bruise i see on Serena's ass ??

[bean1111]

9 hours ago, Amy3 said:

 

the fact that she has such enormous orgasms prevents me from thinking that way. She loves being a submissive and she loves sex with George.

 

Amy this is part of an article about people having orgasm during rape:

our bodies respond to fear. Our bodies respond. They do so uniquely and often entirely without our permission or intention. Orgasm during rape isn't an example of an expression of pleasure. It's an example of a physical response whether the mind's on board or not, like breathing, sweating, or an adrenaline rush. Therapists commonly use the analogy of tickling. While tickling can be pleasurable, when it is done against someone's wishes it can be very unpleasant experience. And during that unpleasant experience, amid calls to stop, the one being tickled will continue laughing. They just can't help it.

I am not saying that he is raping her, what I am saying I is that her orgasms might not represent her pleasure.  

[MajorVoyeur]

Earlier, signs of self-abuse...

[Amy3]

1 hour ago, bean1111 said:

Amy this is part of an article about people having orgasm during rape:

our bodies respond to fear. Our bodies respond. They do so uniquely and often entirely without our permission or intention. Orgasm during rape isn't an example of an expression of pleasure. It's an example of a physical response whether the mind's on board or not, like breathing, sweating, or an adrenaline rush. Therapists commonly use the analogy of tickling. While tickling can be pleasurable, when it is done against someone's wishes it can be very unpleasant experience. And during that unpleasant experience, amid calls to stop, the one being tickled will continue laughing. They just can't help it.

I am not saying that he is raping her, what I am saying I is that her orgasms might not represent her pleasure.  

At my peak, I could rock climb in the 5.13 range, but this a hill I can't climb. Sorry, but it painfully clear to me that Serena is, in fact, loving every second of the sex she she has with George. Like I said, he he is taking advantage of her, but she is doing it willing with the hope of securing a long term relationship with him. 

[SPYING 1]

24 minutes ago, Amy3 said:

At my peak, I could rock climb in the 5.13 range, but this a hill I can't climb. Sorry, but it painfully clear to me that Serena is, in fact, loving every second of the sex she she has with George. Like I said, he he is taking advantage of her, but she is doing it willing with the hope of securing a long term relationship with him. 

So all these years my wife was raping me, sometimes 5 times a day, she was taking advantage of me Guess it didn't matter i was spilling my DNA, she was mentality forcing me

[snag]

2 hours ago, MajorVoyeur said:

Ранее признаки онанизм ...

I do not think so. maybe Alan got used to having sex in the morning. but now this is impossible, because Nina has menstruation. ps: forgive me. I do not know if it's possible to use this word. and I do not know what kind of analogue of this word is in English.

[ze81]

26 minutes ago, snag said:

I do not think so. maybe Alan got used to having sex in the morning. but now this is impossible, because Nina has menstruation. ps: forgive me. I do not know if it's possible to use this word. and I do not know what kind of analogue of this word is in English.

Think menstruation it's an ok word to use.Usualy people say..it's that time of the month etc,I know other expressions but my English it's bad.

[mic351]

12 hours ago, Amy3 said:

I'm very sorry to disappoint you, believe me I am. I have thought about this and I keep coming back to my main problem with criticising George too much. That is, I don't think he is doing anything that Serena doesn't want herself and I don't think he is doing any real harm to her. I will be honest, I don't watch this apt too much because I do think that what goes on here is dark and seedy. I think all of these people here are pretty messed up. I think Serena has a bad motivation for being here too. I will grant you that George is taking advantage of her for his own ends. I don't think he cares too much about her, but they are both getting what they want out of it even if we don't like it. Remember, she can always stop being with him and leave. I really don't think he is trying to manipulate her into having sex with him against her own free will. Again, the fact that she has such enormous orgasms prevents me from thinking that way. She loves being a submissive and she loves sex with George.

If you could show me evidence that he is actually threatening her in some way then I'll join you. This was my big issue with Rex and Dana. Rex was actually hurting her and he was threatening her with financial ruin and other physical harm. She didn't appear to have a voice in the matter. That's the difference I see happening here. 

It is my understanding Serena was homeless and on the streets before Nina took her in.  So I really don't think simply "leaving" is in the cards for her.  Where would you suggest she go?  As I understand it the homeless shelters and shelters for abused women are simply do not exist  in that part of the world.  It matters not who feels for who now.  What matters is George should have never allowed this situation to develop in the first place.  To me, he used his position of authority to get laid and then in fact, tried to pimp Serena out.  In my part of the world and in my business world that's a big no-no. In massage parlors, nude love wrestling parlors, escort services, and even nude bars, such action would be cause for a manager's immediate dismissal.  It creates favoritism, jealously, and in all my years in those types of businesses, I have yet to see anything but a bad outcome.  Moreover, he needs to quit living in his participants' apartment.  Unless of course he drops his manager's title and becomes a participant himself. Often tensions are higher when he's there and although I don't speak the language, I have seen Nina and Alan purposely run to their room whispering when George is in the apartment.  Nope, he's wrong as 2 left shoes and should never have allowed this situation to develop..

[ze81]

1 hour ago, Amy3 said:

At my peak, I could rock climb in the 5.13 range, but this a hill I can't climb. Sorry, but it painfully clear to me that Serena is, in fact, loving every second of the sex she she has with George. Like I said, he he is taking advantage of her, but she is doing it willing with the hope of securing a long term relationship with him. 

George sometimes abuses but as you said it's clear Serena enjoes and a lot having sex with him.

[Amy3]

Homeless before getting here huh! Where the evidence of that? 

[MajorVoyeur]

Remember when going to bed meant either sleeping or fucking...