waldi Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 31 minutes ago, jjkopite said: Amy, you say things because you care, not to provoke a reaction like some. If we didn't invest in people and their relationships on here it would get very boring, very quickly! true. But at the same time I don't understand all the fuss with the guests, to say precisely, I'm not surprised that it's hard for tenants to find an adequate guests, and they have constant problems you would say, with lights for example. why? because these people are not paid like tenants! I stated many times that I expect the vh to pay the guests, otherwise, on what basis they gonna do the show? If this is a real life flat, OK , no probs. But how can we expect guests in Mira or Stella apartment, girls who do something for free? Without money, you'll always hear about bad lighting. So maybe it's a high time to demarcate, real life and entertaining houses where girls are paid for doing the show? Still much different than chaturbate by the way, because they have normal lives there, BUT, much more entertaining than "normal" houses. Just suggesting, additional fees, more fun, I don't fucking know. What do you think bloody vhtv?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjkopite Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 To the majority in the lifestyle the thought of being offered money to play would be an insult. Most swingers (not all!) are open to being observed as part of the fun so why would you want to insult them? If they are only willing to do it for money I wouldn't say they are true swingers, just professional sex workers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjkopite Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Amy3 said: This is a very interesting comment. I know you meant to say "aren't" true swingers. If they are only doing it for the money then they are definitely not true swingers !! I was in the lifestyle for over 10 years and everybody I ever met would be likely to react to being offered money to perform by hitting somewhere painful very hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miscvoyeur Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 24 minutes ago, waldi said: true. But at the same time I don't understand all the fuss with the guests, to say precisely, I'm not surprised that it's hard for tenants to find an adequate guests, and they have constant problems you would say, with lights for example. why? because these people are not paid like tenants! I stated many times that I expect the vh to pay the guests, otherwise, on what basis they gonna do the show? If this is a real life flat, OK , no probs. But how can we expect guests in Mira or Stella apartment, girls who do something for free? Without money, you'll always hear about bad lighting. So maybe it's a high time to demarcate, real life and entertaining houses where girls are paid for doing the show? Still much different than chaturbate by the way, because they have normal lives there, BUT, much more entertaining than "normal" houses. Just suggesting, additional fees, more fun, I don't fucking know. What do you think bloody vhtv?? Well I mean why stop there? Why not just hire porn actors? Guests are not tenants. Some people just like doing things because they are true exhibitionists. You can't expect to throw money at them and they perform or do things specificaly the way we want them to. Otherwise they might not do it at all. As Groomy said, they already have a hard time finding new people to join them. I would rather not scare off the people that actually do come to visit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweety Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 (edited) Female visitor just surreptitiously took her bra off. They might be non smokers, staying at the table while M & H are in the loggia Edited February 2, 2018 by tweety update 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, jjkopite said: To the majority in the lifestyle the thought of being offered money to play would be an insult. Most swingers (not all!) are open to being observed as part of the fun so why would you want to insult them? If they are only willing to do it for money I wouldn't say they are true swingers, just professional sex workers! To the majority where, in the UK? We're talking about young people in Russia for fuck sake. So I'm sure it's not an insult to offer them some many. Anyway, how would you explain that almost 100% of these houses are in relatively poor countries ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjkopite Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Lax broadcasting laws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, jjkopite said: Lax broadcasting laws? bollocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, jjkopite said: Lax broadcasting laws? Huh? I dont understand, Only know LAX as LA international airport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweety Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 1 minute ago, jabbath1987 said: Huh? I dont understand, Only know LAX as LA international airport lax - not strict 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Just now, tweety said: lax - not strict Thanks friend. Stupid me learnt something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweety Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 i think that Mira is horny tonight, the way she is dancing around. Not to just get the couple in the same groove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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