waldi Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 hour ago, jabbath1987 said: Lisa & Grant are packing now. Guess they will leave very soon. honestly, I won't miss them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miscvoyeur Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, waldi said: honestly, I won't miss them I don't think I will either but Lisa is one of the longest running tenants on VH and I acknowledge her legacy status. It's also crazy that the turnover rate on VH is so bad that 14 months is considered legacy status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, miscvoyeur said: I don't think I will either but Lisa is one of the longest running tenants on VH and I acknowledge her legacy status. It's also crazy that the turnover rate on VH is so bad that 14 months is considered legacy status. I tell you what. for me it doesn't really matter how long they stay and when they gain legacy status. What vhtv introduced works well, despite being criticized by many freeloaders. No views, no money, goodbye, that's good for subscribers, isn't it? many people complain all the time, this is wrong, this is shit, bla, bla, bla. But at the same time they don't give any penny to keep their favorite apartments running. That's a hypocrisy, isn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miscvoyeur Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 minute ago, waldi said: I tell you what. for me it doesn't really matter how long they stay and when they gain legacy status. What vhtv introduced works well, despite being criticized by many freeloaders. No views, no money, goodbye, that's good for subscribers, isn't it? many people complain all the time, this is wrong, this is shit, bla, bla, bla. But at the same time they don't give any penny to keep their favorite apartments running. That's a hypocrisy, isn't it. Hm I disagree. I still think VH's pay model is shit. I'm not so much concerned about what people argue about because it means shit. At the end of the day it comes down to this: a sub can subscribe to VH and watch his favorite couple in the timeline and archive only and the couple never sees a penny from that. The sub gets what he wants, VH gets what they want, and the couple is just left out of the equation. In my opinion that isn't fair no matter how anyone tries to spin it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, miscvoyeur said: Hm I disagree. I still think VH's pay model is shit. I'm not so much concerned about what people argue about because it means shit. At the end of the day it comes down to this: a sub can subscribe to VH and watch his favorite couple in the timeline and archive only and the couple never sees a penny from that. The sub gets what he wants, VH gets what they want, and the couple is just left out of the equation. In my opinion that isn't fair no matter how anyone tries to spin it. I know what you mean. But please explain, why so many new people still wants to join the project, even for a short time? because it's money they can get within that short period of time. We simply don't know everything, but I get it, some can be annoyed by, as you say, turnover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miscvoyeur Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 minute ago, waldi said: But please explain, why so many new people still wants to join the project, even for a short time? because it's money they can get within that short period of time. We simply don't know everything, but I get it, some can be annoyed by, as you say, turnover. It's -possible- that new tenants aren't fully aware of how fast the money will dry up. I mean every new couple comes in and is the hot shit of the week because they're new and they think everything is all good, then after a week or two, views stop coming in and the VH money stops coming in. They can't predict that and it's possible the managers may not be upfront about that trend in the beginning. I think the better question to ask is why certain managers bring in certain tenants to begin with. We all know swingers types and crazy sexual antic types will generally last longer than anti-social monogamous types, so at this point why bring in someone like Chris and Dana, who are literally struggling for money right now (according to Groomy anyway), knowing they are just going to get swallowed up by couples like Lexy/Pete or Mira/Henry who have no problem meeting people and introducing them to their bedroom. But like you said, we don't know what's really going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 15 minutes ago, miscvoyeur said: It's -possible- that new tenants aren't fully aware of how fast the money will dry up. I mean every new couple comes in and is the hot shit of the week because they're new and they think everything is all good, then after a week or two, views stop coming in and the VH money stops coming in. They can't predict that and it's possible the managers may not be upfront about that trend in the beginning. I think the better question to ask is why certain managers bring in certain tenants to begin with. We all know swingers types and crazy sexual antic types will generally last longer than anti-social monogamous types, so at this point why bring in someone like Chris and Dana, who are literally struggling for money right now (according to Groomy anyway), knowing they are just going to get swallowed up by couples like Lexy/Pete or Mira/Henry who have no problem meeting people and introducing them to their bedroom. But like you said, we don't know what's really going on. yes, you're right. The problem is the managers who try to entice new tenants from different, let's say backgrounds. But why? because they read idiotic suggestions in here- take this couple, take those couple or maybe someone will start to watch day to day life of someone. All that is a bullshit. At the moment the only way to earn money is to have plenty of sex in many combinations, as close to cam as possible, that's the reality for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, waldi said: yes, you're right. The problem is the managers who try to entice new tenants from different, let's say backgrounds. But why? because they read idiotic suggestions in here- take this couple, take those couple or maybe someone will start to watch day to day life of someone. All that is a bullshit. At the moment the only way to earn money is to have plenty of sex in many combinations, as close to cam as possible, that's the reality for now. Hmm don't know this place here for sure has not the most sex on the site and people do not play to cams by positioning themselves into the best angle. And yet this place is often in the top six being watched places. Maybe it is because of the natural geniune naughty atmosphere in here? All happens quite natural. I for sure prefer this over the staged Cleo / Clare / Whitney meetings... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 15 minutes ago, jabbath1987 said: Hmm don't know this place here for sure has not the most sex on the site and people do not play to cams by positioning themselves into the best angle. And yet this place is often in the top six being watched places. Maybe it is because of the natural geniune naughty atmosphere in here? All happens quite natural. I for sure prefer this over the staged Cleo / Clare / Whitney meetings... any of sex shows is always on the top. You pay, you choose what you like, you've got your preferences but, I have to express that, you're OK, but still do the the same fallacy when thinking that thousand of subscribers will follow your path. Many subscribers are needed to keep the things going and the only chance for tenants to earn is to do things which are easiest to sell and most profitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miscvoyeur Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 26 minutes ago, waldi said: But why? because they read idiotic suggestions in here- take this couple, take those couple or maybe someone will start to watch day to day life of someone. All that is a bullshit. At the moment the only way to earn money is to have plenty of sex in many combinations, as close to cam as possible, that's the reality for now. 20 minutes ago, jabbath1987 said: Hmm don't know this place here for sure has not the most sex on the site and people do not play to cams by positioning themselves into the best angle. And yet this place is often in the top six being watched places. I can name 3-4 couples that have sex more than Lexy/Pete, yet this thread almost always has comments while the others don't. Obviously I'm not saying sex isn't important, but sex can't be the ONLY interesting thing you do. If what you said was actually true Waldi, then all managers would have to do is hire professional porn stars to fuck and everybody would be happy right? We already have some on here that criticize certain tenants that only come to the house to do sex shows and nothing else; (Foxy for example when she used to live there). There's also a reason cam couple threads don't get nearly as much attention as other threads even though they essentially do what you said is the only way to make money on here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miscvoyeur Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 2 hours ago, miscvoyeur said: Oh well, there goes my dream of Zack fucking Lisa before she left. He's there now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, miscvoyeur said: If what you said was actually true Waldi, then all managers would have to do is hire professional porn stars to fuck and everybody would be happy right? Mostly it's the true, but, that would have to be ordinary ( but sexy as hell ) people who look, fuck and act like porn stars, also, having their normal life. I can guarantee, that would be best seller, obviously it's hard to achieve it now. I don't want to say that all of the houses must be like that, cause some people prefer different actions. What I'm saying is, that would be the most profitable scheme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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