Clara & Stas - Part #3

[dh2995]

Just 1 week ago you were ill  and we wished you to get well soon.
Glad to see you now like this, Stas 😃

[dh2995]

[ipiratemedia]

13 hours ago, alt0na_O7 said:

Nice work. congratulations.
I respect their love. But I don't like what they did last night. my philosophy is: if you do a job, do it exactly with everything, if you can't do it, don't start it.
Do not say, "they are developing," "to give your lover for the use of another man" can not be developed IMO.
Did they do this yesterday?
They did not.
Will they do it next week? I do not think so.
What are their purposes? just make money.

If they wanted to do a serious job, they would be exchanged. no one watches a movie that he knows the end with excitement again.

Welcome to the disappointed club Alt0na. A few of us, been there! A person whose house is only open on the west can't see the sunrise at dawn; it's only seen when the sun sets at dusk. If one tries to compare the color and appearance of the two, one will go on arguing forever. The fault lies not with the vision but with the closed windows. If we look out of only one opening until the day we die, we will never see anything new. If we see things as It Is, we will never know what It Is... The difference in one's opinion does not imply a difference in principle. What VHTV offers is not popular art, but entertainment which is intended to be consumed like food, forgotten and replaced by a new dish. If you're betrayed, release disappointment at once. By that way, the bitterness has no time to take root. You're too strong of a person Alt0na, to let things linger in your mind. Joey

[alt0na_O7]

1 hour ago, ipiratemedia said:

Welcome to the disappointed club Alt0na. A few of us, been there! A person whose house is only open on the west can't see the sunrise at dawn; it's only seen when the sun sets at dusk. If one tries to compare the color and appearance of the two, one will go on arguing forever. The fault lies not with the vision but with the closed windows. If we look out of only one opening until the day we die, we will never see anything new. If we see things as It Is, we will never know what It Is... The difference in one's opinion does not imply a difference in principle. What VHTV offers is not popular art, but entertainment which is intended to be consumed like food, forgotten and replaced by a new dish. If you're betrayed, release disappointment at once. By that way, the bitterness has no time to take root. You're too strong of a person Alt0na, to let this linger in your mind. Joey

 

You have written a beautiful and deep meaningful article. I understand that some parts cannot be translated into my language. I have a disappointment: I believe there will be no swinger in true love. But either their love is not real, or "money" is stronger than love. I'm not as optimistic as DH2995. I guess I shouldn't love them so much.

My concern is children. even unborn children. the world is not like the old world. at least 70s, 80s. you could burn a paper photo you didn't like with fire. but nothing can be destroyed in the digital age. They may also prefer to age as a porn star in their remaining lives. but it can also be the opposite. life always surprises. I hope you understand me. adults are responsible for their decisions. but children are always affected by the decisions taken by adults and they are harmed. I can't imagine my parents had a porn movie 25 years ago.

Now ask me: Are you crazy? Can you save the whole world? I'm not smart. I can't fix the whole world, but at least it's worth a try for that lover couple

I know VHTV gave us cookies, not art, for money.
My decision: I'm not looking for real love anymore, but i can find real Voyeur.

[letsdothis]

When there is a situation in your life to which you have an opportunity to
affect change, that is something to devote your mind and intelligence to.
By only worrying about things you can absolutely make a positive change
to, a heavy burden will be lifted from your heart and soul and a thick fog
will evaporate from your mind.

But, to fret and agonize and stress and worry over things that not only
can you not change even a tiny bit, but can't even influence in the
slightest, is a most completely useless proposition. All you will succeed
in doing is creating more and more stress in your life. (That's part of
what keeps Big Pharma making billions each year.)

I'd be willing to bet that if you asked Clara and Stas if they were totally,
completely and truly in love with each other, you would hear a
resounding and thunderous "YES!!!" How they express that love to each
other and show it to others is completely and only their choice. There's
not a single word that any of us could say to them that could change
that in any way.

For us to try to do anything to change what they do or influence them to
do what we think they should do is useless and only creates stress for us.
JMHO.

[alt0na_O7]

If my writings affect their behaviour, it's their problem. People with strong character can resist difficult conditions. Everyone has a mind and a brain. They can distinguish between good and evil. Learning life and earning life. Aren't these verbs their purpose?

If someone gives you easy money today, you either don't want the price (which is usually your parents), or the person who gave you this money will get more from you later. Nothing is unrequited in life.

I'm not a lawyer, I'm not a pharmacist, I'm not a psychologist. I'm not pressuring anyone to read my writings. I don't care

 

[dh2995]

I understand some of what you wrote in your previous posts, but we'll have to agree to differ on some points 🙂 . As regards children, I understand your concern. But C & S are no fools and must have thought about this, at least because you mentioned this a few months ago. (But we can't know their circumstances on wanting or being able to have children, too personal a subject, I think). 

But a few points on which I don't share your views:
You're referring in your post and gifs to a few very short moments in a long conversation where most of the time C&D were sitting/lounging on the couch and C&S sitting on their chairs. From some gestures and words (the word "sex" came up regularly), the conversation was often about sex activities. Were C&S advising C&D on some points ? I would nearly bet on that. There was the moment when Stas took out their whip, which Chris enjoyed using a lot on Dana... There was also the short moment when Clara showed how to lick or kiss Dana's nape behind the ear then, after asking for permission, Chris's, then sat back on her chair. No other contact between Clara and Chris. Two minutes at most. Just like, a few months ago, while massaging Axel with Cleo in one of their parties, she sensually kissed Axel's back for a few seconds while Stas was fingering her. Personally I wouldn't call this giving her to tyhe use of another man. Personally.

If making ratings and money prevailed for them, they would have exchanged partners long ago. They haven't. Their relationship matters more. Yet they enjoy sex parties with other couples. And not only for the money, IMHO, from the look on their faces. Exchanging partners doesn't only imply simple agreement inside a loving couple, it implies finding genuine pleasure together in this. Some couples are happy to do this, others wouldn't. We can notice that they stopped meeting Cleo & Axel when C&A started partying with another couple and going beyond limits C&S weren't ready to cross, for better ratings. Where are C & A now ? No use expecting swapping from C&S, I'd say. But we'll see what the future will say.

We can't know what their future will be, but if being "optimistic" means just watching them live and love without worrying nor expecting anything else than what in my view is the beauty of their sex and happiness, whatever they do or don't do, well, then I am optimistic 🙂 Call me naive if you wish.

Finally I agree (once more 🙂 ) with all of  @letsdothis's post. No use trying to  "help" them in their behaviours. They will do as they please, not as we wish for them or fantasize about, because their relationship will always prevail.  I personally don't feel qualified to tell them what to do, so why should I worry, however fond I may be of them  ?  My choice is just to see and enjoy what happens.

JMHO of course 🙂 Not pressuring you to read of agree with this 😉 

   

[letsdothis]

10 hours ago, alt0na_O7 said:

If my writings affect their behaviour, it's their problem. People with strong character can resist difficult conditions. Everyone has a mind and a brain. They can distinguish between good and evil. Learning life and earning life. Aren't these verbs their purpose? 

That's pretty much what I said. Nothing we can say is going to change
the choices they make with regards to each other, their friends, family,
or anything else they do. But, that isn't the point I was trying to make.

What I was talking about is the amount of stress it adds to your life by
worrying about things that you not only can't influence, but have no
hope of ever changing. Work on the things in your life that you can
change and leave everything else to others who can change the things
that happen in their lives. This is just my opinion. Use it or not, as you
see fit.

I'm not so sure that nothing in life is unrequited. I know you've heard
of unrequited love. That's a real thing, just as one example.

[alt0na_O7]

40 minutes ago, letsdothis said:

That's pretty much what I said. Nothing we can say is going to change
the choices they make with regards to each other, their friends, family,
or anything else they do. But, that isn't the point I was trying to make.

What I was talking about is the amount of stress it adds to your life by
worrying about things that you not only can't influence, but have no
hope of ever changing. Work on the things in your life that you can
change and leave everything else to others who can change the things
that happen in their lives. This is just my opinion. Use it or not, as you
see fit.

I'm not so sure that nothing in life is unrequited. I know you've heard
of unrequited love. That's a real thing, just as one example.

I have no intention of changing anyone. Believe me, I am not going to stress for them. I did almost everything I wanted to do in my own life. I have everything I want.
I always try to correct it, when I see it wrong. If I can't do that, I'll stop trying. I'm on this threshold now. it makes me happy to remember my ideas in the future.
I did not use "unrequited" for love. I'm just against the idea of making easy money. When you're young it's easy to get money with the reason of sex. that is because it is pleasant to have sex.
I admire Stas, he seems to be a hard worker. he doesn't earn that money easily.
The main idea of my words: You can either lose what you have easily acquired in the future, or pay for it at a higher price. Of course, there are exceptions to this. As a child born of an Arab oil trader.
Did you see that I wrote similar things about the other participants? I do not think because there is no. Because I love them. and I'll just watch now. because I'm tired.
basically the purpose of writing here was to improve my English and not to forget. thank you to everyone who helped.

[alt0na_O7]

10 hours ago, dh2995 said:

I understand some of what you wrote in your previous posts, but we'll have to agree to differ on some points 🙂 . As regards children, I understand your concern. But C & S are no fools and must have thought about this, at least because you mentioned this a few months ago. (But we can't know their circumstances on wanting or being able to have children, too personal a subject, I think). 

But a few points on which I don't share your views:
You're referring in your post and gifs to a few very short moments in a long conversation where most of the time C&D were sitting/lounging on the couch and C&S sitting on their chairs. From some gestures and words (the word "sex" came up regularly), the conversation was often about sex activities. Were C&S advising C&D on some points ? I would nearly bet on that. There was the moment when Stas took out their whip, which Chris enjoyed using a lot on Dana... There was also the short moment when Clara showed how to lick or kiss Dana's nape behind the ear then, after asking for permission, Chris's, then sat back on her chair. No other contact between Clara and Chris. Two minutes at most. Just like, a few months ago, while massaging Axel with Cleo in one of their parties, she sensually kissed Axel's back for a few seconds while Stas was fingering her. Personally I wouldn't call this giving her to tyhe use of another man. Personally.

If making ratings and money prevailed for them, they would have exchanged partners long ago. They haven't. Their relationship matters more. Yet they enjoy sex parties with other couples. And not only for the money, IMHO, from the look on their faces. Exchanging partners doesn't only imply simple agreement inside a loving couple, it implies finding genuine pleasure together in this. Some couples are happy to do this, others wouldn't. We can notice that they stopped meeting Cleo & Axel when C&A started partying with another couple and going beyond limits C&S weren't ready to cross, for better ratings. Where are C & A now ? No use expecting swapping from C&S, I'd say. But we'll see what the future will say.

We can't know what their future will be, but if being "optimistic" means just watching them live and love without worrying nor expecting anything else than what in my view is the beauty of their sex and happiness, whatever they do or don't do, well, then I am optimistic 🙂 Call me naive if you wish.

Finally I agree (once more 🙂 ) with all of  @letsdothis's post. No use trying to  "help" them in their behaviours. They will do as they please, not as we wish for them or fantasize about, because their relationship will always prevail.  I personally don't feel qualified to tell them what to do, so why should I worry, however fond I may be of them  ?  My choice is just to see and enjoy what happens.

JMHO of course 🙂 Not pressuring you to read of agree with this 😉 

   

You're not naive, man. You're a real French gentleman. 🙂

 

[letsdothis]

1 hour ago, alt0na_O7 said:

I always try to correct it, when I see it wrong.

Except that what is wrong in one person's view, may be completely
perfect for others.

1 hour ago, alt0na_O7 said:

If I can't do that, I'll stop trying.

Exactly! Just don't stop trying in your own life.

1 hour ago, alt0na_O7 said:

I did not use "unrequited" for love.

I wasn't saying you did. I just used "unrequited love" as an example.
"Unrequited" can refer to anything that is unreciprocated, unreturned,
spurned, rejected, etc.

1 hour ago, alt0na_O7 said:

Did you see that I wrote similar things about the other participants?

I only referred to Clara and Stas because that's the topic we're in. Yes,
I've noticed you've written similar things about other participants.

 

Alt0na, I'm not trying to argue with you or cause a problem. I was just
offering an alternative viewpoint. If you don't like what I've said or it
doesn't work for you, that is perfectly fine. Don't use it. It's your choice.

[dh2995]

Il y a 2 heures, alt0na_O7 a dit :

You're not naive, man. You're a real French gentleman. 🙂

 

Well, I don't know if deserve the compliment 🙂 Thanks 🙂 You know I'm as sincere as you are in our different views on some points. This world is rich with its diversity 🙂