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waldi Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 11 minutes ago, groomy said: But the upset - money is not big. I'm very sorry for them that the money isn't good enough, but that's the reality we all live in. Maybe there is something that could be improved and they could earn more, or vhtv bosses should start to do more for them, I don't know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy3 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 1 hour ago, groomy said: This is the way to become bankrupt. They do not earn in VH so much money - on a completely market basis. Some participants pay guests. It's not a secret. But how? % of the profit. They show statistics in those hours when guests in apartment and pay 20-30-40%. Guests are interested in good show. Just like the participants. But the upset - money is not big. About Zack and Blonde - they have queue of girls. Nelly - upset now (for Zack it's just sex without obligations, Nelly wanted more). Groomy, a while back I asked you this question and you said that this wasn't the case cause there just wasn't enough money in it for the tenants. That the "guests" are spaceless youngsters looking for a place to eat, drink, and fuck! So, which is it? Oh I know it's both! Listen, I know very good and well that many of the guests are bought in here to fulfill a deal. I don't think anyone here really cares about it anymore since we all know that this is an adult site and is not strictly a realistic voyeur site. That's fine, so be it, but by the same token, let's not call a squirrel a duck. Let's at least be honest and say things are what they are. I rather like talking about pink elephants when I'm hanging out in a gossip forum about how tenants who are trying to make a living on a cam site. It shouldn't be off limits to talk about it, especially if it's true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groomy Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 15 minutes ago, Amy3 said: Groomy, a while back I asked you this question and you said that this wasn't the case cause there just wasn't enough money in it for the tenants. That the "guests" are spaceless youngsters looking for a place to eat, drink, and fuck! So, which is it? Oh I know it's both! Listen, I know very good and well that many of the guests are bought in here to fulfill a deal. I don't think anyone here really cares about it anymore since we all know that this is an adult site and is not strictly a realistic voyeur site. That's fine, so be it, but by the same token, let's not call a squirrel a duck. Let's at least be honest and say things are what they are. I rather like talking about pink elephants when I'm hanging out in a gossip forum about how tenants, who are trying to make a living on a cam site. It shouldn't be off limits to talk about it, especially if it's true. I repeat - some pay, but %. There are no fixed (earned a conditional 10 dollars - got 4-5, earned 100 - 40-50, etc.). This applies to replacements (when for 1-2-3-4-5 days leave the apartment). Right now in Nina apt, for example. It is obvious. Some parties also have guests with % (for example 2-3 visit Sina in Nina apt). This is individual for apt/participants. But there is no such thing - make good show and we will pay you X dollars. And yet, fully commercial (swingcouples for material support or sex workers) - just do not earn 2-3 hours of visit. They will have to pay more than earn on VH in total - even if show will be Top1 day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 24 minutes ago, groomy said: They will have to pay more than earn on VH in total - even if show will be Top1 day. that would cost them too much money indeed 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy3 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 1 hour ago, groomy said: I repeat - some pay, but %. There are no fixed (earned a conditional 10 dollars - got 4-5, earned 100 - 40-50, etc.). This applies to replacements (when for 1-2-3-4-5 days leave the apartment). Right now in Nina apt, for example. It is obvious. Some parties also have guests with % (for example 2-3 visit Sina in Nina apt). This is individual for apt/participants. But there is no such thing - make good show and we will pay you X dollars. And yet, fully commercial (swingcouples for material support or sex workers) - just do not earn 2-3 hours of visit. They will have to pay more than earn on VH in total - even if show will be Top1 day. So, at the very least we have some agreement that some guests are being paid for their appearance. Ok, good! I agree this happens. The reason I know is simple. Getting people willing to come into an apt full of cams to be nude and have sex is not such an easy thing. Don't give me the "well, they are Russian and they are comfortable with sex" line! That applies to people having causal sex encounters I'm sure, but coming into an apt to have your sex broadcast across the world and recorded is whole other thing and from my perspective is one that requires some form of compensation. It's not a big deal. The tenants themselves are trading their sex lives for money. VHTV and the managers are paying them to live out their sex life on cam. It's all sex work one way or the other. The question I think me and others are trying to tease out is this. Which ones are paying guests for their appearance and which ones aren't? People are welcome to soak up the paid appearance apts all they want. I really don't care. It's their life and as long as there is not some form of evil taking place then to each their own with their sex life! Hell, look at me. If I could be anything in the world, I'd be a first class whore everyday all day! For real! For me, I just want to know what's really going on one way or the other. But, if I were paying to subscribe to a voyeur site, I'd probably try to follow the ones who were the most real and go to porn to see staged sex in better light and better angles. 😉 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy3 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 51 minutes ago, waldi said: that would cost them too much money indeed 😀 Why? How is that the people do this either for free or are wildly expensive? Is there no middle ground? Sorry, but I don't buy this one. There are plenty of cheap dates out there to be had. You gotta know that. Other then the fact that it's really cheating the system (voyeurism), I don't really care. But, it is cheating! You have to give me that, right? I mean anyone who isn't really living the same life they would normally be living off cam is essentially cheating, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasterboss Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 13 minutes ago, Amy3 said: Why? How is that the people do this either for free or are wildly expensive? Is there no middle ground? Sorry, but I don't buy this one. There are plenty of cheap dates out there to be had. You gotta know that. Other then the fact that it's really cheating the system (voyeurism), I don't really care. But, it is cheating! You have to give me that, right? I mean anyone who isn't really living the same life they would normally be living off cam is essentially cheating, right? that groomy has just dismantled a conspiracy theory that has lived here lately,😀 We need more people to understand Russian, so maybe this forum turns out to be fun again. which was the main reason why I joined 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkles Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 What?????? Money for sex at VH?? No way!!! That can't be true.. It has to be imagination the money we saw being delivered by "guests" to some tenants 😂😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 26 minutes ago, Amy3 said: Why? How is that the people do this either for free or are wildly expensive? Is there no middle ground? Sorry, but I don't buy this one. There are plenty of cheap dates out there to be had. You gotta know that. Other then the fact that it's really cheating the system (voyeurism), I don't really care. But, it is cheating! You have to give me that, right? I mean anyone who isn't really living the same life they would normally be living off cam is essentially cheating, right? It was Groomy who said that participants would have to pay more than they earn in vh, it wasn't me. Obviously some do it for free, some for enormous amount of money, there are no rules. But I have question for you. Why simply don't go to watch other site, if you feel that they cheat the real voyeurs?? what is actually your goal, because I don't understand you. Would you like them to shut down the site, change the name or what? Would you like the girls to stop spreading legs in front of cams or stop inviting guests, prostitutes, porn stars or whoever. What would you like them to do, please explain, cause I don't get it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nack Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Bla Bla Bla..i dont care what the guests or tenants earn or what their strategy is..i am here to see sex,sex and more sex.To hell with voyeurism 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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