The Climate Change Thread

[StnCld316]

3 minutes ago, Alladino said:

 

That's another problem. Here it only helps to vote for people like sanders who are real idealists. They would then have to increase the taxes for rich and reduce those of the normal people (strongly simplified). 

However, climate change must be prevented (greatly reduced) in any case, as nothing really remains otherwise. It's still manageable. We should understand it as a challenge and not declare it impossible (or even as a lie as written above by someone else). 

 

Will bring this up in another 10 Years and People will see all the Tax Dollars wasted and nothing accomplished from it all.  Governments don't know shit about the Climate.  All their doing is believing a bunch of Scientists that have them Brainwashed. David Suzuki and Al Gore can go Blow Dead Bears in the Forest.   

[Robwin]

1 hour ago, StnCld316 said:

Will bring this up in another 10 Years and People will see all the Tax Dollars wasted and nothing accomplished from it all.  Governments don't know shit about the Climate.  All their doing is believing a bunch of Scientists that have them Brainwashed. David Suzuki and Al Gore can go Blow Dead Bears in the Forest.   

Or just an  excuse to raise more bloody taxes is more to the truth.

[Alladino]

1 hour ago, StnCld316 said:

Will bring this up in another 10 Years and People will see all the Tax Dollars wasted and nothing accomplished from it all.  Governments don't know shit about the Climate.  All their doing is believing a bunch of Scientists that have them Brainwashed. David Suzuki and Al Gore can go Blow Dead Bears in the Forest.    

It's not that hard to save the climate. Basically, it is enough to rely much more on renewable energy and to quickly reduce the burning of fossil fuels. The changeover should then be completed within two or three decades. 

The best thing is to simultaneously increase tax levels for CO2-intensive products and services, while at the same time reducing the cost of positive developments (e.g. such as local and long-distance public transport).  

 

[happyone]

1 hour ago, Alladino said:

It's not that hard to save the climate. Basically, it is enough to rely much more on renewable energy and to quickly reduce the burning of fossil fuels. The changeover should then be completed within two or three decades. 

The best thing is to simultaneously increase tax levels for CO2-intensive products and services, while at the same time reducing the cost of positive developments (e.g. such as local and long-distance public transport).  

So in order to have electricity--here is an interesting article--

What is U.S. electricity generation by energy source? - FAQ - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

WWW.EIA.GOV

Fossil fuel is used in over 63% of the time to produce electricity.  Guess we need more hampsters in squirrel cages (no offence Foamy ) to power those turbines. 😏

[StnCld316]

2 hours ago, Robwin said:

Or just an  excuse to raise more bloody taxes is more to the truth.

In Canada they started a Climate Change Initiative and gave recipients a $154 which was supposed to cover their Costs for the extra they had to pay for the Cost of Increased Goods.  It's a Carbon Tax they charge Companies that Pollute and what they collected was suppose to be returned to the Taxpayer in the form of a Rebate.  When they started this in January it has Increased the Costs of all Goods and Services. Now the $154 Rebate I got doesn't even come close to cover what I have to spend in a year to get by so the Government actually lied to the Taxpayer.  The Rebate they get doesn't even come close to covering their Costs for the Increase's they are faced with.  It's certainly a lot more than $154.  The PC Party Leader Andrew Scheer has pledged if Elected in October they will Scrap this unnecessary  Climate Initiative put in by the Rotten to the Core Liberal Government. Come October Trudeau will be handed his Pink Slip and be a One Term Prime Minister.  Trudeau is similar to Donald Trump they think they are over and above the Law and it doesn't apply to them because they hold Power.  Both are fucking idiots in my books.  

There will be a few things that will get Cancelled that Justin Trudeau created.  The Carbon Tax, the USCMA Trade Agreement since it's not confirmed on Paper and Parliament has Convened until the election. If Trudeau doesn't get re-elected those two things will be scrapped. The Canada will be blamed by Trump for Fucking up his United States, Canada and Mexico Trade Agreement which was basically a Garbage Deal for everyone involved. Scheer has also said he will not do any Deals with Donald Trump. So if this Trade Deal is Scrapped he won't be making another deal.  

[Thestarider]

3 minutes ago, StnCld316 said:

In Canada they started a Climate Change Initiative and gave recipients a $154 which was supposed to cover their Costs for the extra they had to pay for the Cost of Increased Goods.  It's a Carbon Tax they charge Companies that Pollute and wheat they collected was suppose to be returned to the Taxpayer in the form of a Rebate.  When they started this in January it has Increased the Costs of all Goods and Services. Now the $154 Rebate I got doesn't even come close to cover what I have to spend in a year to get by so the Government actually lied to the Taxpayer.  The Rebate they get doesn't even come close to covering their Costs for the Increase's they are faced with.  It's certainly a lot more than $154.  The PC Party Leader Andrew Scheer has pledged if Elected in October they will Scrap this unnecessary  Climate Initiative put in by the Rotten to the Core Liberal Government. Come October Trudeau will be handed his Pink Slip and be a One Term Prime Minister.  Trudeau is similar to Donald Trump they think they are over and above the Law and it doesn't apply to them because they hold Power.  Both are fucking idiots in my books.  

There will be a few things that will get Cancelled that Justin Trudeau created.  The Carbon Tax, the USCMA Trade Agreement since it's not confirmed on Paper and Parliament has Convened until the election. If Trudeau doesn't get re-elected those two things will be scrapped. The Canada will be blamed by Trump for Fucking up his United States, Canada and Mexico Trade Agreement which was basically a Garbage Deal for everyone involved. Scheer has also said he will not do any Deals with Donald Trump. So if this Trade Deal is Scrapped he won't be making another deal.  

That would be the worst thing Canada could do, of course unless you use the Dollar exchange rates as the dollar will go to two times what it is now, and everything in Canada just got twice as expensive without raising taxes

 

[happyone]

8 minutes ago, StnCld316 said:

In Canada they started a Climate Change Initiative and gave recipients a $154 which was supposed to cover their Costs for the extra they had to pay for the Cost of Increased Goods.  It's a Carbon Tax they charge Companies that Pollute and what they collected was suppose to be returned to the Taxpayer in the form of a Rebate.  When they started this in January it has Increased the Costs of all Goods and Services. Now the $154 Rebate I got doesn't even come close to cover what I have to spend in a year to get by so the Government actually lied to the Taxpayer.  The Rebate they get doesn't even come close to covering their Costs for the Increase's they are faced with.  It's certainly a lot more than $154.  The PC Party Leader Andrew Scheer has pledged if Elected in October they will Scrap this unnecessary  Climate Initiative put in by the Rotten to the Core Liberal Government. Come October Trudeau will be handed his Pink Slip and be a One Term Prime Minister.  Trudeau is similar to Donald Trump they think they are over and above the Law and it doesn't apply to them because they hold Power.  Both are fucking idiots in my books.  

There will be a few things that will get Cancelled that Justin Trudeau created.  The Carbon Tax, the USCMA Trade Agreement since it's not confirmed on Paper and Parliament has Convened until the election. If Trudeau doesn't get re-elected those two things will be scrapped. The Canada will be blamed by Trump for Fucking up his United States, Canada and Mexico Trade Agreement which was basically a Garbage Deal for everyone involved. Scheer has also said he will not do any Deals with Donald Trump. So if this Trade Deal is Scrapped he won't be making another deal.  

Trudeau is nothing like Trump--Trudeau is a liberal--Trump is a conservative.  They do not share the same political ideology.  Trump has made America #1--so of course the rest of the world is pissed..  If he would just stop his

stupid tweets and thinks before he speaks---I think opinions would change. His policies have worked in the USA--much to the dismay of the Liberals.

[StnCld316]

2 minutes ago, Thestarider said:

That would be the worst thing Canada could do, of course unless you use the Dollar exchange rates as the dollar will go to two times what it is now, and everything in Canada just got twice as expensive without raising taxes

 

It has been that way in Canada when buying goods from the USA.  The Goods themselves are Good and a better price than what we buy and pay in Canada Directly. Back awhile ago I bought a Computer an all it's Accessories through a Company in the USA and built my own Computer and it only cost me $1600 total with the Taxes and Shipping.  If I had bought the same thing in Canada the Items would have cost me  $2,500 or more for the same thing.  I have a USD Dollar Account where I bank so I don't have to Dilly & Dally with Exchange Rates when I buy Goods from the USA. Not every Canadian has that benefit available so they have to pay $1.35 CDN to get $1 USD.  So most Canadians don't benefit from buying from across the Border unless they do on Black Friday Events.  It doesn't affect me in the least. My Goods are still cheaper and delivered right to my Door in 2 to 3 Days by Courier.  

[Alladino]

22 minutes ago, StnCld316 said:

In Canada they started a Climate Change Initiative and gave recipients a $154 which was supposed to cover their Costs for the extra they had to pay for the Cost of Increased Goods.  It's a Carbon Tax they charge Companies that Pollute and what they collected was suppose to be returned to the Taxpayer in the form of a Rebate.  When they started this in January it has Increased the Costs of all Goods and Services. Now the $154 Rebate I got doesn't even come close to cover what I have to spend in a year to get by so the Government actually lied to the Taxpayer.  The Rebate they get doesn't even come close to covering their Costs for the Increase's they are faced with.  It's certainly a lot more than $154.  The PC Party Leader Andrew Scheer has pledged if Elected in October they will Scrap this unnecessary  Climate Initiative put in by the Rotten to the Core Liberal Government. Come October Trudeau will be handed his Pink Slip and be a One Term Prime Minister.  Trudeau is similar to Donald Trump they think they are over and above the Law and it doesn't apply to them because they hold Power.  Both are fucking idiots in my books.  

There will be a few things that will get Cancelled that Justin Trudeau created.  The Carbon Tax, the USCMA Trade Agreement since it's not confirmed on Paper and Parliament has Convened until the election. If Trudeau doesn't get re-elected those two things will be scrapped. The Canada will be blamed by Trump for Fucking up his United States, Canada and Mexico Trade Agreement which was basically a Garbage Deal for everyone involved. Scheer has also said he will not do any Deals with Donald Trump. So if this Trade Deal is Scrapped he won't be making another deal.  

 

The idea is usually to try to pay out the money again on average of all people. Depending on your lifestyle, this can be positive or negative. The idea is ultimately a capitalist one, as the market is used to bring progress to more ecological action. 

Another possibility is not to distribute all money directly, but via subsidies (e.g. public transport). Maybe you should give the whole thing a few years until everything has worked out. 

[StnCld316]

9 minutes ago, happyone said:

Trudeau is nothing like Trump--Trudeau is a liberal--Trump is a conservative.  They do not share the same political ideology.  Trump has made America #1--so of course the rest of the world is pissed..  If he would just stop his

stupid tweets and thinks before he speaks---I think opinions would change. His policies have worked in the USA--much to the dismay of the Liberals.

I agree on the Tweets.  He makes a fool out of himself most times.

Some of his Policies has worked and some others have been shut down in the Circuit Courts. Even his National Emergency he declared just to get Billions of Tax Dollars to build a wall didn't even pan out. 

How he got elected in 2016 will be a lot different in 2020.  He won't have to worry about the Russians Interfering because their Internet will be isolated by the time Elections are held.  Trump can lose his own Re-election bid on his own. He's not as Popular with the Voters as he once was. It will take a lot more than Electoral College Votes to keep him in power come 2020.       

[happyone]

1 minute ago, StnCld316 said:

I agree on the Tweets.  He makes a fool out of himself most times.

Some of his Policies has worked and some others have been shut down in the Circuit Courts. Even his National Emergency he declared just to get Billions of Tax Dollars to build a wall didn't even pan out. 

How he got elected in 2016 will be a lot different in 2020.  He won't have to worry about the Russians Interfering because their Internet will be isolated by the time Elections are held.  Trump can lose his own Re-election bid on his own. He's not as Popular with the Voters as he once was. It will take a lot more than Electoral College Votes to keep him in power come 2020.       

Guess we will just have to wait until then to see who is the victor and the vanquished.  ( the Dems have yet to elect their nominee) 

[StnCld316]

6 hours ago, Alladino said:

 

The idea is usually to try to pay out the money again on average of all people. Depending on your lifestyle, this can be positive or negative. The idea is ultimately a capitalist one, as the market is used to bring progress to more ecological action. 

Another possibility is not to distribute all money directly, but via subsidies (e.g. public transport). Maybe you should give the whole thing a few years until everything has worked out. 

If I can't make it on the measly $154 they sent me. Then others won't as well.  The ones who drive cars are burdened with the higher Gasoline Costs that alone will chew their $154 up in the filling of 7 Gas Tank fill ups and then they have the increased costs of Electricity and Gas since the Government had this smooth plan to Privatize everything which was a big mistake and the list goes on.  In all it cost Canadians more now than what their Rebate will ever cover.  It's a Liberal Government Cash Grab is all it is. Come October that will be all taken care of but for the time being we still have 3 Months left of putting up with Justin Trudeau.