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1 minute ago, thedbear said:

I just thought that this project was a direct matter with Alan ...
and 😁 nina

Hope not.. they don't need to ruin this one :biggrin: but probably you are right and she will appear here to take the "showers"

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7 hours ago, hotkefguy said:

Trust me I know from Voyeur sites, I was for one year subcriber to both VoyeurVilla and Lifeundercam who were more open-minded sites. Now we are left only with this site, which insists that gay sex is not profitable and no one likes it... Jesus Christ! 😛

As a confirmed, card-carrying homosexual, I subscribe to VHTV knowing full well that their target market is a straight audience.  Gay or bi-sex, when it happens is a bonus, but it is not expected.

Why not subscribe to a gay cam house?  College Boys Live (https://thegayrealworld.com/) has been up and running from Florida for years, well over a decade at least.  Gay boys living together in one house, 24 cams, having sex and drama, with a nightly chat session.   Since it is exclusively gay, that might be more what you are looking for. 

I love the variety VHTV offers, so that’s why I subscribe.

 

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8 hours ago, hotkefguy said:

Great another straight room is what we needed...

 

8 hours ago, hotkefguy said:

Isn't anyone here allowed to say its opinion if he does not like something or finding something boring? That's called democracy. And they are not doing anything about the bi/gay viewers and somehow we need to get their attention.

If you want we can comment on any other apartment all the time and say everything is perfect and we are all so horny. That would be ok?

 

8 hours ago, hotkefguy said:

And here I commented my own opinion. I saw they brought another (i lost the count of how many) straight couple and I said I didn't like it. Was that bad? Because I am honest?

 

8 hours ago, hotkefguy said:

I critisized VoyeurHouseTV for choosing another straight couple, not the couple itself. We will judge them when they perform! 😉

 

But it is expected that you understand the how porn business work, before you start to become an activist, try to change things by keep expressing your opinion so loud here.

 

All successful porn producers learned the very expensive lesson that mixing male gay porn and serving it to straight male customers is a huge mistake. That is why the biggest porn titans don't do it. They have a separate channel with different brand for male gay content. 

 

As a big helper supporter of gay people, it extremely disturbs me to be forced to watch two male have sex with each other. Not my fault, I just born like that. Somehow mother nature programmed to to like women and avoid to even think about two men can have sex with each other. It destroys my sexual appetite.

 

I have gay friends and coworkers. I found them honest, reliable, kind and nice people to be friend with or do business with. But I absolutely don't want to know about their sexual life. They know that and they respect my preference.  

 

Mixing male gay content in VH really disturbs me, because sometimes I might unwantedly look that them. 

 

I applaud the ideas of having gay-only-VH subscription, but I will not subscribe. 

 

 

I have no doubt you will not stop, try to challenge my comment and use your "democracy" or "opinion" cards. But think about it, I think I have a point here, at least from the business perspective.  

 

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10 hours ago, jabbath1987 said:

Time to change names here @StnCld316

New names Ilka & Sam

 

 

I am so happy they joined. I am just confused why they appeared in Allan place, slept there without doing anything. 

 

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17 minutes ago, zoifan said:

 

 

 

 

But it is expected that you understand the how porn business work, before you start to become an activist, try to change things by keep expressing your opinion so loud here.

 

All successful porn producers learned the very expensive lesson that mixing male gay porn and serving it to straight male customers is a huge mistake. That is why the biggest porn titans don't do it. They have a separate channel with different brand for male gay content. 

 

As a big helper supporter of gay people, it extremely disturbs me to be forced to watch two male have sex with each other. Not my fault, I just born like that. Somehow mother nature programmed to to like women and avoid to even think about two men can have sex with each other. It destroys my sexual appetite.

 

I have gay friends and coworkers. I found them honest, reliable, kind and nice people to be friend with or do business with. But I absolutely don't want to know about their sexual life. They know that and they respect my preference.  

 

Mixing male gay content in VH really disturbs me, because sometimes I might unwantedly look that them. 

 

I applaud the ideas of having gay-only-VH subscription, but I will not subscribe. 

 

 

I have no doubt you will not stop, try to challenge my comment and use your "democracy" or "opinion" cards. But think about it, I think I have a point here, at least from the business perspective.  

 

Thank you for the support in this issue man. We bi/gay  people really appreciate that. People with this minds in 2019 is what making scared of this kind of bussiness  to include gay action in their sites. You seem to be very self-centered by saying ''it extremely disturbs me to be forced to watch two male have sex with each other''. Who forced you to stay and watch this? You could change room, you will not ''die'' if you see it by accident. And if It destroys your sexual appetite. I know straight guys who are comfortable with sexuality they just don't bother cause they know who they are. If you accidentally watch gay porn and change room, this makes you less straight? Don't all think about yourself. If VoyeurHouseTv closed and you were only have one site to offer voyeurism but it was full with only gay rooms, i'm sure you would messaging them to make a straight version of it. But now your issue is suddenly all of us, the LGBT members who want some acceptance even in sites like this. And all these years I have seen mostly straight couple outdoor be more sexual to each other than gay couples, but no one judges them. And for the business perspective I think there are sites well-developed to satisfy the needs of porn of each kind of sex, but voyeurism is so under-developed and that's why the remaining sites should try and cover the needs of all people and not only narrow-minded and self centered people like you.

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49 minutes ago, hotkefguy said:

Thank you for the support in this issue man. We bi/gay  people really appreciate that. People with this minds in 2019 is what making scared of this kind of bussiness  to include gay action in their sites. You seem to be very self-centered by saying ''it extremely disturbs me to be forced to watch two male have sex with each other''. Who forced you to stay and watch this? You could change room, you will not ''die'' if you see it by accident. And if It destroys your sexual appetite. I know straight guys who are comfortable with sexuality they just don't bother cause they know who they are. If you accidentally watch gay porn and change room, this makes you less straight? Don't all think about yourself. If VoyeurHouseTv closed and you were only have one site to offer voyeurism but it was full with only gay rooms, i'm sure you would messaging them to make a straight version of it. But now your issue is suddenly all of us, the LGBT members who want some acceptance even in sites like this. And all these years I have seen mostly straight couple outdoor be more sexual to each other than gay couples, but no one judges them. And for the business perspective I think there are sites well-developed to satisfy the needs of porn of each kind of sex, but voyeurism is so under-developed and that's why the remaining sites should try and cover the needs of all people and not only narrow-minded and self centered people like you.

 

No,no ... you don't get to question my sexual preference or label me here. Doesn't matter of I die or not. I just don't like it. Not my fault. I born like it. Sound familiar? 

 

You did not get the point. Porn producers do not mix male-gay porn with straight/lesbian porn. They have tried it, failed and they don't do it. Period. Why? read my post again. It is not about me being self centered. That is how it works. Juts to help you get the point, normally vegetarians don't go to a an expensive steakhouse and and order vegetable. Meat lovers don't go to vegetarian restaurant and complain why they don't serve meat. Nothing wrong with meat eaters or vegetarians. Juts different type of preference.

 

You can continue writing thick paragraphs and try to label people. It won't change things. try to get it. Porn industry does not have anything against gay people, but there is a reason how porn industry work they way it is right now.  

 

Since you like male-gay porn, it might be hard to understand how come others don't like it. But the earlier you get this point, the better for yourself, since things will not change.  If VH follow your non-self-centered guide, they loose business. They tried it it did not work. 

 

 

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