life+90 Posted August 20, 2019 Author Posted August 20, 2019 To whom it may concern: I defend that view."Fortunately you have 36 other channels to relieve your boredom" But, My opinion is for the whole VH. There are very few beautiful couple. Usually,The couples here don't make real 3some, 4some.Unfortunately, they keep the audience waiting until morning and after that nothing happens in the morning.😌For audiences who really want to watch couples with open relationships such apartments should be opened in VH as soon as possible. 1
moonlight89 Posted August 20, 2019 Posted August 20, 2019 Just now, Amy3 said: Haha! Anyways, the scam would be the fact that they pretend that these parties are going to lead up to a swapping orgy when they all known in advance that it’s not going to happen. If a Chaturbate couple took tips to reach a goal and then they didn’t deliver the goal people would call that a scam. Views are the same as tokens and while the goal is not explicitly stated, it’s eluded to throughout the party with all the games and touching that would normally lead to a swapping orgy. They play the game for as long as they can, but in the end they take it back and don’t deliver what they are essentially promising. Since VHTV tenants are in a competition for viewer money, I call what they do a scam. It’s my opinion. Feel free to have your own. aparently you have created your own laws, i have never witness in any partie no one saying "guys at the end we will swap" the last crfazy party i had my gf kissed a friends dick,and i licked some girls boobs, no one swaped that night,you play games you interact with other people,and try to have fun,no one puting any labels of swaping tonight!!! stop being delusional and creating your own rules 🙂 1
bluewinner Posted August 20, 2019 Posted August 20, 2019 33 minutes ago, Amy3 said: These people are all friends of friends and they all know how the scam works. They have a great teacher. The big issue is that VHTV doesn’t find talent or new managers, they rely on the managers they have. Since these managers are dependent on the friends and acquaintances of the tenants, it makes for a rather generic, typical, pool of talent. Finding people who swing and don’t cam to Charurbate all the time is hard to find in this day in age I think. Perhaps the bigger issue is the way VHTV pays. It incentivizes the tenants to string out their progression over time. In general, once a tenant hits their peak of progression they decline into boredom. What’s left to reveal once you’ve see it all they’ll say. People don’t want swinging and orgies just for the sake of them. Bonnie is clear proof of that. They want their favorites to swing. Trust me the talent is quite worried about giving it all away and having nothing left of interest but themselves and feeling the need to constantly having orgies to survive. It’s doom unless they have another source of income or can become managers themselves. Exactly right. Money is probably the biggest issue. I don't understand why VHTV needs to have 40 apartments. half of them are abandoned most of the times, and many are just being used as cam-show studio. if they just keep 10-15 top ones , and think of quality instead of quantity the result would be much better. they also need to have better screening process, let people apply and go through interview instead of being hired just because they are a friend of friend. and they should make it clear that they can't do cam shows, that must be an absolute no no. the other thing is talent must know it's not a life long career , just enjoy it while they can get some money & fame and then move on with their life, that way they don't have to be worried about their progression pace, and just enjoy it while it lasts. about, Bonnie & Clyde , even Mira & Henry , or Julia & Raul example, I personally believe it's their time to move on ( not intending to upset them or their fans). it's not about their party or swinging style, it's the fact that they have aged and their guest are not too attractive either (I know it sounds insensitive & politically incorrect and I am sorry about that but it's the fact ) . 1
rado07 Posted August 20, 2019 Posted August 20, 2019 I think it's OK the way it is, nobody has to look All the actors are amateurs and I expect no perfection and Showtime 4 o'clock Europe is in LA Primtime
moonlight89 Posted August 20, 2019 Posted August 20, 2019 Just now, Amy3 said: The swap is implied with all the games and touching they play all night long. I don’t know how you can deny that. If I went to a sex a party and there was this kind of activity going on, I don’t think I would be wrong to expect a choice of flesh to experience along the way. But, I’m not making rules, they can do what they want to. I’m just calling a spade a spade. They pretend that this is going to lead to something more when they know in advance that it’s not. It’s VHTV and they are welcome to their teasing scam parties. I don’t pay for it anyway. I’m just saying like I see it as a spectator. allright than, now on i guess all the swinger club in the world will put as a rule that if you enter you are obligated to swap!!!!🤯🤯🤯 1
Lyree Posted August 20, 2019 Posted August 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, moonlight89 said: allright than, now on i guess all the swinger club in the world will put as a rule that if you enter you are obligated to swap!!!!🤯🤯🤯 Never Happen 😀
rado07 Posted August 20, 2019 Posted August 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, moonlight89 said: allright than, now on i guess all the swinger club in the world will put as a rule that if you enter you are obligated to swap!!!!🤯🤯🤯 at the entrance to the swinger club: 'Everything is possible, nothing has to be done' 🙄
bluewinner Posted August 20, 2019 Posted August 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, moonlight89 said: allright than, now on i guess all the swinger club in the world will put as a rule that if you enter you are obligated to swap!!!!🤯🤯🤯 that's not a good example. a swingers club does not pay it's customers so it cannot expect them to do what it wants, in fact, it's the other way around and customers pay for their services. I think a strip club is better example. imagine if you pay for a strip club entry and you go in to watch some naked girls but when you get in they say we don't want to, or we don't choose to get naked!! well, in real life, there won't be much you can do! but you be disappointed and you complain . It's the same situation here, they advertise their party, then they get together, they play some card games and talk (which most of us don't understand) , they get naked, play some sexy games and etc, making viewers think, something epic is going to happen so they keep watching, and at the end all you see is robotic sex with their exclusive partners, limp dicks, and lack of joy or passion. it's right, that it's their life and they can choose to do what they want, but we can be disappointed and complain. 2 1
moonlight89 Posted August 20, 2019 Posted August 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, bluewinner said: that's not a good example. a swingers club does not pay it's customers so it cannot expect them to do what it wants, in fact, it's the other way around and customers pay for their services. I think a strip club is better example. imagine if you pay for a strip club entry and you go in to watch some naked girls but when you get in they say we don't want to, or we don't choose to get naked!! well, in real life, there won't be much you can do! but you be disappointed and you complain . It's the same situation here, they advertise their party, then they get together, they play some card games and talk (which most of us don't understand) , they get naked, play some sexy games and etc, making viewers think, something epic is going to happen so they keep watching, and at the end all you see is robotic sex with their exclusive partners, limp dicks, and lack of joy or passion. it's right, that it's their life and they can choose to do what they want, but we can be disappointed and complain. a strip club is comersializing nudity, and thats what exactly they offer, vh promoting the life of others vh never said come and watch tonight there will be a swap. i agree with the rest of the things, but calling it scam cause they do not swap is retarded.yes i want them to swap, i want the partys,crazy orgies, BUT NO ONE PROMISED ANYTHING OF THAT, its me, my hope and my desires,if they have party and grabing each other doesnt meant by any means that they gonna swap. you do have the right to complain about robotic sex,staged things,fake drama, but no one has the right calling it scam cause they do not swap, is it just me that see insanity in that sentence?????? i'm not trying to take the side of vh, i'm just trying to be objective. 3
rado07 Posted August 20, 2019 Posted August 20, 2019 Why should we be disappointed? Each of us has seen the shows many times, everyone knows how it ends other does not happen here Just look at another apartment 1
bluewinner Posted August 20, 2019 Posted August 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, moonlight89 said: a strip club is comersializing nudity, and thats what exactly they offer, vh promoting the life of others vh never said come and watch tonight there will be a swap. i agree with the rest of the things, but calling it scam cause they do not swap is retarded.yes i want them to swap, i want the partys,crazy orgies, BUT NO ONE PROMISED ANYTHING OF THAT, its me, my hope and my desires,if they have party and grabing each other doesnt meant by any means that they gonna swap. you do have the right to complain about robotic sex,staged things,fake drama, but no one has the right calling it scam cause they do not swap, is it just me that see insanity in that sentence?????? i'm not trying to take the side of vh, i'm just trying to be objective. well , if there are few couples in a room, they playing a sex game, the guys grab girls boobs & asses , and girls are playing with the men's dicks and they are building it up from zero to hero, it rises the viewers expectation, the normal conclusion is it's just gonna get hotter when things move into bedroom and when it doesn't it becomes disappointing. it's like watching a tv series or a movie, where it builds up nicely, grows its fan base becomes a phenomena, and then they end it so badly that disappoints everyone. If they are building up viewers expectation, they need to deliver a good ending. I am not saying they need to swap or fuck everyone that they meet, just saying if they are pretending to be swingers, and they play the game, don't be butt-hurt when people criticise them for not being what they pretend to be. they have choices: be monogamous and don't pretend otherwise, be swingers or pretend to be swingers and be ready for viewers criticism . 1
miscvoyeur Posted August 20, 2019 Posted August 20, 2019 20 minutes ago, moonlight89 said: i agree with the rest of the things, but calling it scam cause they do not swap is retarded. Exactly. 2
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