Deborah & Ian (2020) Part #2

[jabbath1987]

Making tickets demanding an expulsion of anybody for doing not what you want to do is just so ridiculous I have no words for it.👎 Thankfully VH does not care at all about this. They told countless of times they won't kick anybody out because of this. 

And as Sofi and Kevin are guests they are allowed to hide from cams wherever and as long and often as they want. Making a ticket because of this is a complete waste of time. 

 

[budda]

The caps that I place do not always reflect my personal tastes.
As I said, I also publish what I don't like to allow those who are not VH subscribers to see a little bit of everything that happens.
First of all this apartment has really bad cams:
in the living room rooms # 5 and # 6 are of no use;
the bedroom # 9 is always dark in the bedroom; cam # 8 does not show anything and cam # 9 "cuts" the heads of people lying down.
Ian & Deborah disappointed me a lot: they have monotonous and repetitive sex (especially in the bathtub).
Yesterday - when they had sex in the living room I tried to catch some caps but unfortunately they don't care about the positions of the cams and therefore I stopped because I saw very little. Then when Deborah gave Ian a blowjob, he raised his leg removing the view.
To all this we add the "parasites" that run around the house doing nothing and the very poor Sofi who spends her days sleeping and chatting on her cell phone and who has never touched a cock since she lived with Ian & Deborah.
The conclusion is that this apartment is to be closed soon.

 

 

 

 

[Arkay2]

This negativity is becoming quite tiresome now. For some reason there seems to have been a concerted attack against this apartment for approaching a month now. I get the message, you do not like the activities or lack of in this apartment. Repeating endlessly the same rant about specific individuals is obviously not achieving anything and may be having a counter effect of alienating the participants such that they are less likely to change. People will eventually relax into their environment and improve. There are several apartments with considerably less activity than this one but they do not seem to suffer from the same level of vehement criticism and attack. This is unfair. 

There are 34 other apartments, if you do not like this one then do not view it and go to one of the others. Ultimately the lack of viewers will kill an apartment as there is no revenue. If there are so few you like then perhaps you would be better off elsewhere on the internet on sites that do cater for your preferences.

The repetitive obsessive commenting here reminds me of Jeka's apartment for 'Stacy, Xenia, Gary, Dora', but at least it was considered more justified in their case as the highlight of activity in 3 months was a bat flying through the bathroom. 🦇 😂 For them, in excess of 2500 forum posts in the same 3 months probably fueled interest in the place keeping it online longer.

VHTV offers a window into the life in an apartment, it is what it is, whether we like it or not. I think constructive feedback about cameras and lighting to the Support team can be valid and helpful but it is inappropriate to ask for lifestyle changes in individuals, particularly guests irrespective of how long they have been there. We do not know the personal circumstances that have led them to being in this apartment under scrutiny 24/7 in the first place.

I believe the point has been well and truly made that some subscribers do not like this apartment, so can we move on please. 

I pay my annual subscription to VHTV, also CC and do not have any particular issue with this apartment (other than camera positioning and lighting which I have contacted Support about and my concerns were corrected at the time). There are probably only about 10 apartments I watch on a regular basis, the rest I dislike to varying degrees, but that could be considered part of VHTV offering a variety to cover all tastes and does not affect my willingness to subscribe, nor do I feel the need to harp on about those I dislike in these forums as there are obviously those that do enjoy them.

There will be responses to this post but I am unlikely to reply further as we all have our own opinions and I respect that you have yours, but having stated mine here I do not intend to debate and repetitively shove it in front of everyone else. Those of you that disagree, accept that everyone is entitled to their opinion, get over it and move on.

I look forward to at some point some common sense and fairness returning to this and all the forums with some general comment, banter and caps/vids highlighting things we may have missed.

Everybody take care and stay safe in these unusual times.

[jabbath1987]

1 hour ago, Arkay2 said:

This negativity is becoming quite tiresome now. For some reason there seems to have been a concerted attack against this apartment for approaching a month now. I get the message, you do not like the activities or lack of in this apartment. Repeating endlessly the same rant about specific individuals is obviously not achieving anything and may be having a counter effect of alienating the participants such that they are less likely to change. People will eventually relax into their environment and improve. There are several apartments with considerably less activity than this one but they do not seem to suffer from the same level of vehement criticism and attack. This is unfair. 

There are 34 other apartments, if you do not like this one then do not view it and go to one of the others. Ultimately the lack of viewers will kill an apartment as there is no revenue. If there are so few you like then perhaps you would be better off elsewhere on the internet on sites that do cater for your preferences.

The repetitive obsessive commenting here reminds me of Jeka's apartment for 'Stacy, Xenia, Gary, Dora', but at least it was considered more justified in their case as the highlight of activity in 3 months was a bat flying through the bathroom. 🦇 😂 For them, in excess of 2500 forum posts in the same 3 months probably fueled interest in the place keeping it online longer.

VHTV offers a window into the life in an apartment, it is what it is, whether we like it or not. I think constructive feedback about cameras and lighting to the Support team can be valid and helpful but it is inappropriate to ask for lifestyle changes in individuals, particularly guests irrespective of how long they have been there. We do not know the personal circumstances that have led them to being in this apartment under scrutiny 24/7 in the first place.

I believe the point has been well and truly made that some subscribers do not like this apartment, so can we move on please. 

I pay my annual subscription to VHTV, also CC and do not have any particular issue with this apartment (other than camera positioning and lighting which I have contacted Support about and my concerns were corrected at the time). There are probably only about 10 apartments I watch on a regular basis, the rest I dislike to varying degrees, but that could be considered part of VHTV offering a variety to cover all tastes and does not affect my willingness to subscribe, nor do I feel the need to harp on about those I dislike in these forums as there are obviously those that do enjoy them.

There will be responses to this post but I am unlikely to reply further as we all have our own opinions and I respect that you have yours, but having stated mine here I do not intend to debate and repetitively shove it in front of everyone else. Those of you that disagree, accept that everyone is entitled to their opinion, get over it and move on.

I look forward to at some point some common sense and fairness returning to this and all the forums with some general comment, banter and caps/vids highlighting things we may have missed.

Everybody take care and stay safe in these unusual times.

Nothing to add here👍. Thanks for the reminder of the bat. 🤣

[budda]

1 hour ago, Arkay2 said:

This negativity is becoming quite tiresome now. For some reason there seems to have been a concerted attack against this apartment for approaching a month now. I get the message, you do not like the activities or lack of in this apartment. Repeating endlessly the same rant about specific individuals is obviously not achieving anything and may be having a counter effect of alienating the participants such that they are less likely to change. People will eventually relax into their environment and improve. There are several apartments with considerably less activity than this one but they do not seem to suffer from the same level of vehement criticism and attack. This is unfair. 

There are 34 other apartments, if you do not like this one then do not view it and go to one of the others. Ultimately the lack of viewers will kill an apartment as there is no revenue. If there are so few you like then perhaps you would be better off elsewhere on the internet on sites that do cater for your preferences.

The repetitive obsessive commenting here reminds me of Jeka's apartment for 'Stacy, Xenia, Gary, Dora', but at least it was considered more justified in their case as the highlight of activity in 3 months was a bat flying through the bathroom. 🦇 😂 For them, in excess of 2500 forum posts in the same 3 months probably fueled interest in the place keeping it online longer.

VHTV offers a window into the life in an apartment, it is what it is, whether we like it or not. I think constructive feedback about cameras and lighting to the Support team can be valid and helpful but it is inappropriate to ask for lifestyle changes in individuals, particularly guests irrespective of how long they have been there. We do not know the personal circumstances that have led them to being in this apartment under scrutiny 24/7 in the first place.

I believe the point has been well and truly made that some subscribers do not like this apartment, so can we move on please. 

I pay my annual subscription to VHTV, also CC and do not have any particular issue with this apartment (other than camera positioning and lighting which I have contacted Support about and my concerns were corrected at the time). There are probably only about 10 apartments I watch on a regular basis, the rest I dislike to varying degrees, but that could be considered part of VHTV offering a variety to cover all tastes and does not affect my willingness to subscribe, nor do I feel the need to harp on about those I dislike in these forums as there are obviously those that do enjoy them.

There will be responses to this post but I am unlikely to reply further as we all have our own opinions and I respect that you have yours, but having stated mine here I do not intend to debate and repetitively shove it in front of everyone else. Those of you that disagree, accept that everyone is entitled to their opinion, get over it and move on.

I look forward to at some point some common sense and fairness returning to this and all the forums with some general comment, banter and caps/vids highlighting things we may have missed.

Everybody take care and stay safe in these unusual times.

Hi Arkay, I agree that it would not make sense to carry on a discussion for a long time between those with different opinions.
So I don't reply to your post, I just want to clarify one point.
You say that more or less you only follow about ten apartments: exactly like me. Now, if 3 apartments (this, Helena's and Stifler's) do not perform, I am losing 30% of my panorama.
My constant criticisms only come from the fact that these apartments have high potential. If not, I would simply ignore them.

[budda]

Sorry @Arkay2 but I have a direct question for you.
Camcaps is a website where members can post photos and videos; can express comments, criticisms, suggestions, requests, etc ,. they can also discuss with other Members.
Many Members have expressed negative comments on Helena's apartment (including the previous one);
Many Members expressed negative comments on Alisa's previous apartment (full of kids);
Many Members criticized Melissa & Sergio and hoped for the closure of their apartment.
And so on for other apartments.
Now I wonder what I have done differently than the others to justify your reaction, tough enough.

 

[jabbath1987]

14 minutes ago, budda said:

Sorry @Arkay2 but I have a direct question for you.
Camcaps is a website where members can post photos and videos; can express comments, criticisms, suggestions, requests, etc ,. they can also discuss with other Members.
Many Members have expressed negative comments on Helena's apartment (including the previous one);
Many Members expressed negative comments on Alisa's previous apartment (full of kids);
Many Members criticized Melissa & Sergio and hoped for the closure of their apartment.
And so on for other apartments.
Now I wonder what I have done differently than the others to justify your reaction, tough enough.

 

Not many people criticized Melissa appartement. Basically only three. And nobody wanted it to be closed. By the way what do you win by the closure of any appartement? You have one place less t watch that is all I can think of...

[oaksmoke33]

3 hours ago, jabbath1987 said:

Not many people criticized Melissa appartement. Basically only three. And nobody wanted it to be closed. By the way what do you win by the closure of any appartement? You have one place less t watch that is all I can think of...

Its to feel involved. They complain and whine because they hope their words will force the result they want. They should try pornhub if they don't care to be a voyeur and appreciate exciting moments as they happen. 

[Jonno]

5 minutes ago, oaksmoke33 said:

Its to feel involved. They complain and whine because they hope their words will force the result they want. They should try pornhub if they don't care to be a voyeur and appreciate exciting moments as they happen. 

You really think you are being a voyeur? 

[moonlight89]

15 minutes ago, oaksmoke33 said:

Its to feel involved. They complain and whine because they hope their words will force the result they want. They should try pornhub if they don't care to be a voyeur and appreciate exciting moments as they happen. 

sometimes a critisim can motivate people try new things,explore new areas,and eventually they might like it,witch will provide better experience to users also,many times apts get sweet canded with people like them and the revenue is constant so they get relaxed and stop preforming, do not forget that no one of the apts are here for tabboo they are here for revenue and income,is a job, so constractive critisim is essential.as about apts closure,is let me put it this way,when one apt is closing high chances is that will be replaced by new tenants, thus maybe better tenants maybe worst (as we have see lately) now if you got the opertunity to kick out Jack white and Candy Red with the possibility to be replaced with a random new apt would you do so? i would with out second thought,cause nothing cant be worse from that apt.so closing an apt that does not contribiute in anyway to viewers can result in new Isaac&Ella apt (very small chances but nothing to loose anyway) 🙂

[moos54]

19 minutes ago, Jonsey said:

You really think you are being a voyeur? 

the problem is not if he is a voyeur, the concern is that VHTV is no longer really a voyeurism site because most of the members have pushed in the direction of amateur porn, so when there is no of action as these members would like then there is complaint that nothing happens, they just forgot that normally this site is part of the world of voyeurism and that even if there is no action, it does not not necessarily say it's boring

[oaksmoke33]

Yes. Voyeur-house. Is this a perfect voy experience? No, but what is perfect? It just strikes me as odd that people would complain and try to close a voyeur apt because they are expecting nonstop sex. If ppl weren't intrigued, they wouldn't waste their time to watch and then make posts. If one is intrigued, why complain so much? It seems very silly to me.  People will do as they want, as they should, as should the tenants and guests, and posters on here.