fornika Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 56 minutes ago, jabbath1987 said: They are porn actors. And they have contracts. And these contracts for sure does not allow them to have sex on other cams than the ones from the contract company. So why do you still expect anything from this place? It is like the old realm21 (Big house in Budapest) Stupid teasing of pathetic wannabe pornstars. You won' see any sex there. Unless you have a contract with a studio/company that stipulates restriction to "work" elsewhere . Usually they are very free to do as they please to earn a living.(its a tough world out there) Mind you very few have contracts and as such i highly doubt they'll be on VH if they. But... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, fornika said: Mind you very few have contracts and as such i highly doubt they'll be on VH if they. But... We already had this before. In realm21 (Big house in Budapest) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fornika Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 minute ago, jabbath1987 said: We already had this before. In realm21 (Big house in Budapest) I know and i'm not disputing you. Just that People on here came to the conclusion that that was the case(after being frustrated that they were not having sex). I'm just saying that ,just cause they dont want to do anything on VH , dont mean they have contracts not to. Some may not want to do it for various reasons.(maybe VH doesn't pay them enough, or they think they are too good for VH, etc..) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 minute ago, fornika said: I know and i'm not disputing you. Just that People on here came to the conclusion that that was the case(after being frustrated that they were not having sex). I'm just saying that ,just cause they dont want to do anything on VH , dont mean they have contracts not to. Some may not want to do it for various reasons.(maybe VH doesn't pay them enough, or they think they are too good for VH, etc..) I get you. But basically it does not really matter. I am sure we won't see any sex with the current people in that house... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fornika Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, jabbath1987 said: I get you. But basically it does not really matter. I am sure we won't see any sex with the current people in that house... i dont care.. Barbie and Ken will make up for it. 😁🤣 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squish Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 I am not convinced. Sophie Smiles of Kirill fame must have had a 'proper' contract as we saw her on LP and she and Kirill were forever coming and going with hand baggage. Why risk camming on VH if they had a contract? Because VH is blocked in the Federation only obtainable with a VPN. However Russia has just blocked 9 VPN providers for rejecting censorship demands for some blocked sites and VPN's are looked upon with suspicion by the Federation so it is highly likely that you will get away with being on a porn site with a false name etc. Furthermore, all VH persons risk prosecution if exposed. Clearly we have 40 apartments who consider it a safe bet that they won't be and for the most part they are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fornika Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, squish said: I am not convinced. Sophie Smiles of Kirill fame must have had a 'proper' contract as we saw her on LP and she and Kirill were forever coming and going with hand baggage. Why risk camming on VH if they had a contract? Because VH is blocked in the Federation only obtainable with a VPN. However Russia has just blocked 9 VPN providers for rejecting censorship demands for some blocked sites and VPN's are looked upon with suspicion by the Federation so it is highly likely that you will get away with being on a porn site with a false name etc. Furthermore, all VH persons risk prosecution if exposed. Clearly we have 40 apartments who consider it a safe bet that they won't be and for the most part they are right. Just cause you shoot with a company does not mean contract. You can shoot everyday without being contracted to anyone.(casual jobs) Same as you can have short term contracts with a studio(1-2 0r 5 shoots ).those usually will not restrict you from finding bread elsewhere. Although some can.(depends on what is agreed upon) Whatever Sofia has with Kirill is some sort of agentship thingy. Kirill might know ways to get her jobs. its not a contract with a studio. Unless he has his own company that he runs and has contracted to it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squish Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 41 minutes ago, fornika said: Just cause you shoot with a company does not mean contract. You can shoot everyday without being contracted to anyone.(casual jobs) Same as you can have short term contracts with a studio(1-2 0r 5 shoots ).those usually will not restrict you from finding bread elsewhere. Although some can.(depends on what is agreed upon) Whatever Sofia has with Kirill is some sort of agentship thingy. Kirill might know ways to get her jobs. its not a contract with a studio. Unless he has his own company that he runs and has contracted to it. I would have thought there was much more risk of being found out moonlighting in the Budapest House by word of mouth, for those who had a contract. Mr crappy cams is just a backwater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fornika Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 minute ago, squish said: I would have thought there was much more risk of being found out moonlighting in the Budapest House by word of mouth, for those who had a contract. Mr crappy cams is just a backwater. I was only talking about how contracts work for the most part. Regulations and porn laws vary per country. Its more clear in some than others. The kind of activities that take place in VH apartments may be considered illicit in some countries . So i would assume more risky to participate if you live in those countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkles Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 I doubt any of this mr. shitty cams girls have any contract that doesn't allow that, and if there is, it's individual one and not something general (but even there i doubt).. The most of his performers already had sex at vh (and not talking about chaturbate shows). The new detail is that they are now also "invading" other managers VH places and he also have male ones circulating through different apartments (like the one visited here today). They even can't be compared with the ones from 21 in terms of agency 18 minutes ago, squish said: I would have thought there was much more risk of being found out moonlighting in the Budapest House by word of mouth, for those who had a contract. Mr crappy cams is just a backwater. Even knowing probably there is some connections between agencies, mr.shitty cam girls are in a different one then the ones from budapest (also a different VH "manager") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groomy Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Just to clarify. Indeed, models can sign contracts of level - anal only for this production 1 year, or b/g. Previously, it was only about productions (companies), now this may include Onlyfans and other services for selling content. Julmodels have many girls on various exclusive contracts with restrictions. But not all of them. Roxy, Sasha, Angelika - did whatever they wanted. Here the situation is different. There are no exclusive contracts. It's just that girls want to sell solo/soft content in future. Therefore, hard action is unlikely (or guests will come to shoot porn). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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