Ridgerunner Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Alladino said: They want to hear the truth, otherwise there will be no easement of punishment. I think that's the normal procedure. The truth about what?The charges against Cohen have nothing to do with the Russian collusion investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alladino Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Ridgerunner said: The truth about what?The charges against Cohen have nothing to do with the Russian collusion investigation. It is included in the order (see (b)(ii) and (b)(iii). All within the usual and nothing out of the ordinary. I understand that this investigation is unpleasant for trump, but this shouldn't matter. Now let's wait and see the final results of his investigation. He's already achieved a lot and it would go even faster if trump would stop to delay the interrogation. If he's innocent, it shouldn't be a problem to answer a few questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 27 minutes ago, jugghead said: You did see that red part right before the blue part, right? And how many of the jobs created during Obama's reign were full time jobs? Obamacare caused employers to use part time workers in their businesses in order to avoid having to provide the expensive healthcare coverage for the employees.So where a business had one person working full time doing a job before Obama,during Obama's presidency that business would eliminate full time employment and have 2 or 3 part time employees doing the job that one full time employee handled before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Alladino said: It is included in the order (see (b)(ii) and (b)(iii). All within the usual and nothing out of the ordinary. I understand that this investigation is unpleasant for trump, but this shouldn't matter. Now let's wait and see the final results of his investigation. He's already achieved a lot and it would go even faster if trump would stop to delay the interrogation. If he's innocent, it shouldn't be a problem to answer a few questions. So is Mueller going to investigate "Russian interference in the 2016 election" connected with the Clinton campaign? And what the hell does the term "related matters" mean,another term for unending witch hunt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, Alladino said: It is included in the order (see (b)(ii) and (b)(iii). All within the usual and nothing out of the ordinary. I understand that this investigation is unpleasant for trump, but this shouldn't matter. Now let's wait and see the final results of his investigation. He's already achieved a lot and it would go even faster if trump would stop to delay the interrogation. If he's innocent, it shouldn't be a problem to answer a few questions. While in the FBI Mueller had a history of convicting innocent people. If you don't believe me check it on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alladino Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, Ridgerunner said: So is Mueller going to investigate "Russian interference in the 2016 election" connected with the Clinton campaign? Of course, if there's a connection to his Investigation (see (b)(ii) and (b)(iii)). Ultimately, however, it is important to understand that Trump's offended feelings are no reason to investigate Clinton. BTW, I don't see any connection between Clinton and the "Russian interference in the 2016 election". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thestarider Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, Alladino said: Of course, if there's a connection to his Investigation (see (b)(ii) and (b)(iii)). Ultimately, however, it is important to understand that Trump's offended feelings are no reason to investigate Clinton. BTW, I don't see any connection between Clinton and the "Russian interference in the 2016 election". WHAT ? Blinders I swear. Investigate all and everything or end it !!!! That is what the American people want. Correct me if a I am wrong, but isn't the Washington Post owned by George Soros, the largest single contributor to the Clinton Campaign, Hummm very interesting I would think for Mr. Mueller being fair and impartial Special Counsel investigating Russian collusion into the 2016 election !!! Former president Barack Obama’s official campaign organization has directed nearly a million dollars to the same law firm that funneled money to Fusion GPS, the firm behind the infamous Steele dossier. Since April of 2016, Obama For America (OFA) has paid over $972,000 to Perkins Coie, records filed with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) show. The Washington Post reported last week that Perkins Coie, an international law firm, was directed by both the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton’s campaign to retain Fusion GPS in April of 2016 to dig up dirt on then-candidate Donald Trump. Fusion GPS then hired Christopher Steele, a former British spy, to compile a dossier of allegations that Trump and his campaign actively colluded with the Russian government during the 2016 election. Though many of the claims in the dossier have been directly refuted, none of the dossier’s allegations of collusion have been independently verified. Lawyers for Steele admitted in court filings last April that his work was not verified and was never meant to be made public. OFA, Obama’s official campaign arm in 2016, paid nearly $800,000 to Perkins Coie in 2016 alone, according to FEC records. The first 2016 payments to Perkins Coie, classified only as “Legal Services,” were made April 25-26, 2016, and totaled $98,047. A second batch of payments, also classified as “Legal Services,” were disbursed to the law firm on September 29, 2016, and totaled exactly $700,000. Payments from OFA to Perkins Coie in 2017 totaled $174,725 through August 22, 2017. FEC records as well as federal court records show that Marc Elias, the Perkins Coie lawyer whom the Washington Post reported was responsible for the payments to Fusion GPS on behalf of Clinton’s campaign and the DNC, also previously served as a counsel for OFA. In Shamblin v. Obama for America, a 2013 case in federal court in Florida, federal court records list Elias as simultaneously serving as lead attorney for both OFA and the DNC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, Thestarider said: WHAT ? Former president Barack Obama’s official campaign organization has directed nearly a million dollars to the same law firm that funneled money to Fusion GPS, the firm behind the infamous Steele dossier. Since April of 2016, Obama For America (OFA) has paid over $972,000 to Perkins Coie, records filed with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) show. The Washington Post reported last week that Perkins Coie, an international law firm, was directed by both the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton’s campaign to retain Fusion GPS in April of 2016 to dig up dirt on then-candidate Donald Trump. Fusion GPS then hired Christopher Steele, a former British spy, to compile a dossier of allegations that Trump and his campaign actively colluded with the Russian government during the 2016 election. Though many of the claims in the dossier have been directly refuted, none of the dossier’s allegations of collusion have been independently verified. Lawyers for Steele admitted in court filings last April that his work was not verified and was never meant to be made public. OFA, Obama’s official campaign arm in 2016, paid nearly $800,000 to Perkins Coie in 2016 alone, according to FEC records. The first 2016 payments to Perkins Coie, classified only as “Legal Services,” were made April 25-26, 2016, and totaled $98,047. A second batch of payments, also classified as “Legal Services,” were disbursed to the law firm on September 29, 2016, and totaled exactly $700,000. Payments from OFA to Perkins Coie in 2017 totaled $174,725 through August 22, 2017. FEC records as well as federal court records show that Marc Elias, the Perkins Coie lawyer whom the Washington Post reported was responsible for the payments to Fusion GPS on behalf of Clinton’s campaign and the DNC, also previously served as a counsel for OFA. In Shamblin v. Obama for America, a 2013 case in federal court in Florida, federal court records list Elias as simultaneously serving as lead attorney for both OFA and the DNC. And Christopher Steele's sources for the Trump dossier were Russian agents. So is that not Russians meddling in the 2016 election on the behalf of the Clinton campaign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alladino Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Just now, Thestarider said: WHAT ? Former president Barack Obama’s official campaign organization has ... Obama was not available for election in 2016. If there is a crime, there will certainly be someone to investigate it, but it doesn't have to be Mueller. Mueller's job is important. BTW, Think first, then write, otherwise a discussion with you makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 There is much more evidence of the Clinton campaign colluding with the Russians than there is of the Trump campaign colluding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alladino Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Ridgerunner said: There is much more evidence of the Clinton campaign colluding with the Russians than there is of the Trump campaign colluding. I don't think so, but I am convinced that Mueller would find out if so. Just have a little faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Alladino said: Obama was not available for election in 2016. If there is a crime, there will certainly be someone to investigate it, but it doesn't have to be Mueller. Mueller's job is important. BTW, Think first, then write, otherwise a discussion with you makes no sense. What Thestarider said made perfect sense,but apparently you are too stupid to understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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