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Well said...exactly how I feel.

Hi Benny, If Eva ever came back to RLC, subscriptions would skyrocket. But alas, she's got a great career now so that won't happen. But, I just love listening to her voice even if I have no idea what she is saying. When she had the Russian apartment with Sam,she was so incredibly sensual and sexy, we didn't need to understand her. She represents everything RLC desperately needs now on its site. What a lost treasure.

Thanks for the info.

I know this is off-topic but for a while now a few of us on this forum have been talking how great Eva from the old Russian apartments was but many folks on this forum apparently never saw her...WELL, she's at Masha's apartment right now! I'm sorry to bring this up on this forum but didn't know how to open a new thread. Anyway, for those that loved Eva and all she brought to RLC here's a chace to see her once again. For some of us she is definitely one of the best females RLC has ever had.

Wow. This has made my day. As I have said on other forums for a long time, Eva has always been my favorite woman on RLC, ever...very pretty, down to earth, very smart and creative, and absolutely the most naturally erotic and sexually kinky lady. Some of her past videos with both men and women are classic. She wa RLC at its best. Certainly there are a couple of others that are in her category, like Masha. Maybe that's why her and Masha are old friends. Such a treat!

Well, yes but I am not a member of the "Martina is a saint crowd"...never was. Nor am I a member of the "Martina is a puta"crowd. But yes, there were inconsistencies in the "parking lot" translations if you study them closely. Over the past year and a half there have been hundreds of false speculations about the Martina/Nelly affair, including some incorrect translations which I'm not going to get into as that would ignite a firestorm of responses I'm sure. My personal opinion is that I have doubts about the "parking lot" translations and speculations...that's my story and I'm sticking to it.. I'm not going to continue in this part of the discussion any more...getting boring so no need to respond. Just my opinion, right or wrong.

Let's hope so Jen. I know you never had the chance to see the apartment activities in the old Russian apartments, but the Nelly/Martina love affair is right up there with the best of the RLC "golden years". I know some might say stop, we "can't live in the past and just move on"...but maybe we can experience the best of RLC if Martina and Nelly revive their relationship. I have always agreed with you when you basically said that true love between two people is very, very hard to end...despite everything. I think you have always been correct that there is definitely a very strong physical attraction between Martina and Nelly. I'm not sure if the love affair is back on or if it's a "just friends now" kind of thing, but like you, I can hope to see them lovers once again.. Thanks for your post.

But philo, NOBODY saw it happen. All we have are the translators' accounts. I do not mean to trash them at all... but none of us is perfect. I personally do not find it implausible for some of us to have some doubt about the "parking lot" incident. If we all automatically believed translators' version of events all the time, I think we might end up being disappointed if we find they misinterpreted. I think that some of us have a legitimate doubt on that incident. But, I thank you for broaching the subject.. I always read your posts as you seem to be very articulate and reasonable, but on this one, let's agree to disagree ok. It's all good.

Hi philo, I would love to believe what you say about the strength of the Martina/Nelly relationship. That relationship, while on-camera, was the closest RLC came to the "vibe" of the old Russian apartments and that's why many of us, but certainly not all, who were lucky enough to watch the old apartments never felt any moral indignity was going on bewteen the two consenting women. I was never convinced that both Bogdan and Alberto were actually upset about the affair. During the Ma rtina/ Nelly trysts on camera, RLC subs skyrocketed...obviously a good thing for RLC. Then when any on-camera sex stopped the subs eventually dropped. Since the on-camera relationship stopped, I have to say I did not believe the relationship between them continued despite the translators saying that the "parking lot" incident did happen. I still cannot believe that the "parking lot "situation ever happened because nobody actually slaw it happen, including the translators.would love to see the affair between them start up again, but for me to believe that, I must see it without relying on speculations or translators. But I do think that there is a possibility that the on-camera affair could reoccur... and that would make many, many subscribers very, very happy. I also think that RLC would be "jumping for joy" to see Martina and Nelly back together as lovers. One can only hope.

Thanks for getting back to me.

Thanks fo getting back to me.

Hi Max, Can you recommend specific software that would be able to translate Russian to English from the audio of conversations we hear on RLC? Does RLC block all translation software being used? Right now all I have is Google Translation that works on CC postings in Spanish, French and German.Thanks in advance for any tips and much appreciated.

Quick question...Martina visited B4 yesterday?

Right now it is such a shame that non-Russian-Ukranian speaking subs on RLC cannot understand a word of what is being spoken by the tenants concerning the shit Putin is causing in their countries. We can see the emotions on their faces but we cannot hear the language of their pain, worries and opinions as to the situation in Ukrain...really disappointed in RLC. Maybe we could ask the translators we do have to maybe work a little overtime to give us a better idea as to what's going on in the tenants heads, hearts and souls right now...this would really live up to "reallife cam" wouldn't it? Thanks ddhm for broaching the subject. RLC needs to "step up to the plate" as we say in the U.S. and figure out a way for better translations.

Sorry but back again. After watching Leora through the Malia days I felt that all the fake lesbian action became so boring and disengenious on Leora's part. What made me think that it was all a "show" is that Leora and Malia never kissed each other passionately...at all, over many, many evenings when they were together in the bedroom. Ok, I get it, that passionate kissing doesn't always occur during lovemaking, but with Leora and Malia it never happened to my knowledge. My whole point here is that until I see Leora and Zena kiss each other, passionately, any sexual action is fake and just staged in my opinion. To those of you that watched the Martina/Nelly lovemaking, you know what real passionate lesbian kissing is all about. I too would like to see real affection develope between Leora and Zena, but not of the fake Leora/Malia variety... just boring and a waste of time. For those here that never caught the Martina/Nelly sexual trysts, go online and find them...thats what I'm hoping for between Leora and Zena...but I'm not certain that a real attraction exists between the two of them on a mutual basis. It very well might just be a genuine non-sexual friendship between them and I'm certaily ok with that. Thanks for listening.

So, this is my first post here...I do post quite often on Martiina and B4. Sorry I can't continue but will be back soon.

Hi Harley, I agree with some of what you posted. I told Jen a while back that, for me, its fun to read the girlfun posts...she shakes things up a bit which I think you appreciate and I think she wants us to take this whole Martina thing a little less seriously and add some humor... which I think she's great at even though sometimes over-the top. Just fun to read and I say "go for it girl". Thanks foe the comment.

Oh yes...Jewel might be my favorite apartment guest of all time. Possibly the cutest young women ever on RLC. She started out so shy and reserved but very slowly blossomed into a sensual young woman who found her sexuality right before our eyes. I spent hours watching her and her interactions with Jane and Dick...I would have given up anything to have been Dick. You could see the lust in his eyes every time Jewel visited. Thanks so much for reminding us of the incomparable Jewel.

Hi philo. Add Sam from Eva and Sam and Dick from Jane and Dick back in the Russian days. Like Sasha with Masha and Dasha, the difference is that both Sam and Dick fucked other women in front of their partners on many occasions. They also had wild FFM threesomes with their partners...wow, do many of us old-timers here miss those days compared to RLC now.

Thanks Harley.

Sorry Harley, just giving my take on things. By the way, I did say it was just my opinion and mentioned not everyone feels the Martina/Nelly thing was anything special. I have no pretension that I speak for everybody so sorry if you felt I inferred that. No worries ok.

Great post Jen... lots of insight. I think you hit the nail on the head when you speak about how the Martina/Nelly affair changed everyone's view of Martina...or at least most peoples' view. Not only was it a game changer, but it was probably the single most important event (events) on RLC since the demise of the Russian apartments...RLC owes a huge sense of gratitude to both Martina and Nelly for their love affair. That affair greatly increased membership while it was happening, made RLC more relevant for many viewers, and gave us something to talk about for months on end. IMO the Martina/Nelly affair was the closest the current RLC situation has ever come to the "glory days" of the Russian apartments...and we should all be thankful we were able to see it happen right before our own eyes...we got lucky.

Hi yelt, I also remember a phone conversation Martina had on cam which appeared to involve some type of interview with someone on the other end of the line. Two things struck me about the phone call: first, how fluent Martina was in English...she was easily undertandable. Secondly, and I've bee thinking about this for a while now, I am almost possitive I heard Martina say her real name and it kind of shocked me. I know we can't divulge any tenant's real name but if someone here also remembers the phone conversation and the name Martina used, can you PM me? Is that legal here?

Good morning Jen. Thanks for your nice words.

I too think you're correct here. The presumtion that Martina and Alberto were together with Nelly and Bogdan last night seems like pure speculation which just can't be proven, once again. Sure, if a tryst between the four of them ever happens on camera I'd be the first in line to watch that! But at this point, just to keep my sanity, I've adopted the " If I can't see it, I can't believe it" approach. If its off-camera, none of us knows if it happened or not. As good as a couple of translators can sometimes be, they're not perfect. So right now, the most plausible speculation would be that Martina and Alberto went out for a romantic evening together...whether it involved sex between them, who knows. Although the sexy lingerie might suggest that. But we can't be certain. Like most of us on the forum I would be happy for them if they did have a nice evening together outside the apartment. But for me, I just don't want to waste anymore time speculating about stuff because too me, that borders on fantasy. It used to be fun to read over the last few years but I've just grown tired of all the speculation...although its really funny to read Girlsfun's posts...she does bring a lot of needed humor to the forum and I appreciate her effort to keep us from taking things that happen between Martina and Alberto too seriously. I enjoy her "fly by the seat of her pants" take on things. So thanks Girlsfun for your attitude and energy.