dontgetnone Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 24 minutes ago, StnCld316 said: Wonder what Coffee is worth $7 a Cup. I get an X-Large Triple - Triple at Tim Horton's for $2.35 when I Patronize their Establishment. Most of the time I just make my own at home. A $5.99 Jar of Nescafe and a Bag of Sugar lasts about 1 Month. Nescafe Instant? Gross $7.95 for the large can of Folgers Black Silk, no cream, no sugar. Strong and black. That's good coffee😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SierraTM Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Amy3 said: Yes, for sure, I can’t be anything else but that. One would think that the site owners would be voyeurs themselves and they would have a strong desire to preserve as close to a real voyeur experience as possible. The problem is that it would be way too boring for most people and very few would subscribe to that for very long. There has to be a push. On VHTV the push is views earn money, on RLC I think push is views earn you a right to stay and keep earning a paycheck. RLC has it good for a long time and they still dominate this business for now. They are lucky that people tend to stick with what they know and what they have invested themselves into. But, the threat is real and the competition will continue to weigh on them and ultimately will push the genre further away from an ideal voyeur experience and into more cam shows type performances. RLC knows this and that’s why the Barcelona apts exist. They let off steam so the rest can still be what was intended. I have no doubt without the Barcelona apts RLC would crumble down to Voyeur-Villa status. Good analysis, an ideal voyeur experience cannot exists for long without regular action/shows. It is in our nature that we always want more and demand more. And an ideal voyeur experience cannot happen in RLC anyway because the subjects know about the cameras so this concept is flawed and only to deceive the audience to a certain extent. I have to correct my previous usage of voyeurs too because it does not apply to RLC. We are audience, viewers or customers. And we expect to see something, action (or shows) cos we paid to see them. Imagine you bought a movie ticket to watch a comedy but you found out there isn't anything to laugh about throughout the movie and came out feeling sad. B1 is this movie. And RLC sells this as their blockbuster. Easy money. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontgetnone Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 19 minutes ago, SierraTM said: Good analysis, an ideal voyeur experience cannot exists for long without regular action/shows. It is in our nature that we always want more and demand more. And an ideal voyeur experience cannot happen in RLC anyway because the subjects know about the cameras so this concept is flawed and only to deceive the audience to a certain extent. I have to correct my previous usage of voyeurs too because it does not apply to RLC. We are audience, viewers or customers. And we expect to see something, action (or shows) cos we paid to see them. Imagine you bought a movie ticket to watch a comedy but you found out there isn't anything to laugh about throughout the movie and came out feeling sad. B1 is this movie. And RLC sells this as their blockbuster. Easy money. I'm finding out the hard way that you are absolutely right. It's not what I expected, not what I wanted but it's what I've got. I feel cheated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thestarider Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 42 minutes ago, SierraTM said: Good analysis, an ideal voyeur experience cannot exists for long without regular action/shows. It is in our nature that we always want more and demand more. And an ideal voyeur experience cannot happen in RLC anyway because the subjects know about the cameras so this concept is flawed and only to deceive the audience to a certain extent. I have to correct my previous usage of voyeurs too because it does not apply to RLC. We are audience, viewers or customers. And we expect to see something, action (or shows) cos we paid to see them. Imagine you bought a movie ticket to watch a comedy but you found out there isn't anything to laugh about throughout the movie and came out feeling sad. B1 is this movie. And RLC sells this as their blockbuster. Easy money. I disagree again completely with this analysis: an ideal voyeur experience cannot exists for long without regular action/shows. RLC started with just 3 apartments, very shitty cams and audio. They survived just fine on the concept of being able to watch couple in normal lives 24/7, as matter of fact they grew each year. More apartments and more members. It wasn't until RLC's original members/owners of the site were bought out by a corporate owned internet porn business, did the first of the girls on vacation apartments come about by one of the original participant's who lived in Barcelona. It was not anything like what you see today in Barcelona, there were no shows, just models working in Barcelona for short period of time. Matter of fact it was real similar to Kami and Kristy's apartment. The site grew enormous during these first couple of years of B-1. Still no shows or staged crap. This was through year 4 of RLC. And an ideal voyeur experience cannot happen in RLC anyway because the subjects know about the cameras so this concept is flawed and only to deceive the audience to a certain extent. I have to correct my previous usage of voyeurs too because it does not apply to RLC. Again totally disagree completely as this statement does not fit Webster's definition of a voyeur or voyeurism: one obtaining sexual gratification from observing unsuspecting individuals who are partly undressed, naked, or engaged in sexual acts broadly : one who habitually seeks sexual stimulation by visual means. Voyeur is a fairly recent addition to English; our earliest written evidence for the word dates from the beginning of the 20th century. It comes directly from a French noun meaning, literally, “one who sees.” By the middle of the 20th century, its meaning had broadened to "an unduly prying observer," particularly one interested in squalid or shocking details And we expect to see something, action (or shows) cos we paid to see them. Again I beleive that you are way off the actul purpose and meaning of Real life cam, from the site as it sold to the prospective members. I see no guarantee's of anything in the advertisement or the terms of service.: What is RealLifeCam? RealLifeCam is a unique website where you have the chance to observe the private life of other people in live round-the-clock. Who are the people we see on the website and what is the scenario they are living? People you see online are not actors, they are real people living their routine lives in apartments equipped with video cameras. There are no scenarios, no operators, video editing or censorship just life as it is 24/7. I looked through all the cameras but saw no one in the apartment People living in the apartments are real people leading active way of life. They can be at work, studying, working out in the gym or simply leave to do the shopping. Pay attention to the time on you are in because it might differ from the one the people you are watching are living in. Chaurtbate is for you my friend, or sites like that is where you can expect to get something like your demands as you pay tokens for the right to have action.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jugghead Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 36 minutes ago, SierraTM said: Good analysis, an ideal voyeur experience cannot exists for long without regular action/shows. It is in our nature that we always want more and demand more. And an ideal voyeur experience cannot happen in RLC anyway because the subjects know about the cameras so this concept is flawed and only to deceive the audience to a certain extent. I have to correct my previous usage of voyeurs too because it does not apply to RLC. We are audience, viewers or customers. And we expect to see something, action (or shows) cos we paid to see them. Imagine you bought a movie ticket to watch a comedy but you found out there isn't anything to laugh about throughout the movie and came out feeling sad. B1 is this movie. And RLC sells this as their blockbuster. Easy money. I just stumbled across this and I like how you think! All is not lost, but somehow we all need to ask ourselves if we are ready to accept what we have always been asking for. Great points! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy3 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, StnCld316 said: Wonder what Coffee is worth $7 a Cup. I get an X-Large Triple - Triple at Tim Horton's for $2.35 when I Patronize their Establishment. Most of the time I just make my own at home. A $5.99 Jar of Nescafe and a Bag of Sugar lasts about 1 Month. I counted! I’ve spent $250 at Starbucks so far this year. I’m addicted. 😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thestarider Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Amy3 said: I counted! I’ve spent $250 at Starbucks so far this year. I’m addicted. 😆 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy3 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 @Thestarider I think the only reason why you can say that about the success of RLC is because they were essentially first. For years, their only competition was really Voyeur-Villa, which was a spec compared to RLC. I bet of you ran a poll, you’d find that about 80% of the people here got here because of an RLC ad re-direct while they were surfing porn. You can argue that a voyeur is one who views, but I think most people go the next step and define it as a person who views unsuspecting others. I don’t think people define themselves as voyeurs when they are watching porn. It’s semantics, but I think by in large people think of voyuers they way I defined it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy3 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Thestarider said: I deserved that!🥴 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thestarider Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Amy3 said: @Thestarider I think the only reason why you can say that about the success of RLC is because they were essentially first. For years, their only competition was really Voyeur-Villa, which was a spec compared to RLC. I bet of you ran a poll, you’d find that about 80% of the people here got here because of an RLC ad re-direct while they were surfing porn. You can argue that a voyeur is one who views, but I think most people go the next step and define it as a person who views unsuspecting others. I don’t think people define themselves as voyeurs when they are watching porn. It’s semantics, but I think by in large people think of voyuers they way I defined it. The difference is performing or living, porn is a staged acted performance, and living life under the scrutiny of cams that you are aware of is not performing, but living. I have visited with few of the participants of RLC over the years, and they will say that after first month or two they really no longer pay any attention to the cameras. Yes they know they are there, but they do not care. They just live as normal couples or singles as the case may be. That is the major difference from RLC and all the other voyeur sites, as the others are more like the what the Barcelona apartments have become. That is not the backbone of RLC, only the hook. The longtime members of this forum and RLC will tell you they seldom watch the Barcelona apartments. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SierraTM Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 il y a 17 minutes, Thestarider a dit : The difference is performing or living, porn is a staged acted performance, and living life under the scrutiny of cams that you are aware of is not performing, but living. I have visited with few of the participants of RLC over the years, and they will say that after first month or two they really no longer pay any attention to the cameras. Yes they know they are there, but they do not care. They just live as normal couples or singles as the case may be. That is the major difference from RLC and all the other voyeur sites, as the others are more like the what the Barcelona apartments have become. That is not the backbone of RLC, only the hook. The longtime members of this forum and RLC will tell you they seldom watch the Barcelona apartments. Yes they know they are there, but they do not care. They just live as normal couples or singles as the case may be. Does this apply to the Barcelona apartments? Does this apply to the girls who hide from the cameras, undercover-bates and back-facing the cameras? Is click-baits part of normal living? Is this how you supposedly live normally? They obviously care about the cameras. That is not the backbone of RLC, only the hook. Yes precisely, thanks for pointing this out. They supposedly sell the Barcelona apartments as such but once you subscribed, you realised it is not and IT IS REALLY JUST A HOOK FOR NEW SUBSCRIBERS. Just like what I described in my previous post, you felt cheated because you paid for a comedy as advertised but ended up not finding it funny at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy3 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 29 minutes ago, Thestarider said: The difference is performing or living, porn is a staged acted performance, and living life under the scrutiny of cams that you are aware of is not performing, but living. I have visited with few of the participants of RLC over the years, and they will say that after first month or two they really no longer pay any attention to the cameras. Yes they know they are there, but they do not care. They just live as normal couples or singles as the case may be. That is the major difference from RLC and all the other voyeur sites, as the others are more like the what the Barcelona apartments have become. That is not the backbone of RLC, only the hook. The longtime members of this forum and RLC will tell you they seldom watch the Barcelona apartments. Do you know what it takes to get kicked off from RLC in terms of low viewer audience or is it the case, that once you’re on, you’re always on no matter what you do and no matter if anybody watches you? My guess is that there is a threshold and the tenants are very much aware of what they have to do at a minimum in order to remain viable and earn that check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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