Ridgerunner Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, moos54 said: Frankly you dishonor people who are dying with this kind of message The virus is present in most countries but it is not as virulent in certain regions, for example in Italy it is very present in the north but not in the south In Spain, it is very present in the Madrid region but less present elsewhere In France, it is very present in the Grand Est region and Ile de France but the rest of the country is rather quiet I do not think that the virus decides to strike in a region because this one is led by such or such political movement So it's alright to blame Trump, but not blame anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SierraTM Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 il y a 5 minutes, Ridgerunner a dit : You have no idea. Just more illogical ranting fueled by Trump hatred. What is more amazing is not the Trump hatred or left-wing media bias against Trump but the truly amazing self-delusion that Trump supporters dig themselves into. But you have every right to remain self-deluded. No one can force you to listen to real, factual news. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, SierraTM said: Trump comparing the coronavirus to the common flu on Twitter Trump referred to Democrats’ alleged efforts to politicize the Trump administration’s preparations for a possible outbreak here at home as “their new hoax.” Continue to lie to yourself, continue. It's fine with me anyway. But you have my sympathies. The Democrats did politicize this and they continue to politicize it. You need to stick to politics in your country because you totally understand nothing about what is happening over here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moos54 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ridgerunner said: So it's alright to blame Trump, but not blame anyone else? Above all, I don't think it's the right time to blame anyone for the moment we must remember the lesson of this disaster so that it does not happen again in the future However, the latest news is that Trump is the President of the United States, so he is the one who makes decisions In France, our president is called Macron, he too is not perfect and he does not always make the right decisions, but he will not accuse others of his failures 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 minute ago, SierraTM said: What is more amazing is not the Trump hatred or left-wing media bias against Trump but the truly amazing self-delusion that Trump supporters dig themselves into. But you have every right to remain self-deluded. No one can force you to listen to real, factual news. You are the one with no real facts about the U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Just now, moos54 said: Above all, I don't think it's the right time to blame anyone for the moment we must remember the lesson of this disaster so that it does not happen again in the future However, the latest news is that Trump is the President of the United States, so he is the one who makes decisions In France, our president is called Macron, he too is not perfect and he does not always make the right decisions, but he will not accuse others of his failures Andrew Cuomo made decisions for New York state., and DeBlasio made decisions for New York City. And that is a fact. I'm sorry that you cannot accept that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moos54 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Ridgerunner said: Andrew Cuomo made decisions for New York state., and DeBlasio made decisions for New York City. And that is a fact. I'm sorry that you cannot accept that. From what I read, they made these decisions because even the president of your beautiful country did not want to take them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyone Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, moos54 said: From what I read, they made these decisions because even the president of your beautiful country did not want to take them You need to learn our constitution---regardless of the reasons (Covid19 included) it is the State's responsibility to protect their own people States Rights and Responsibilities | | Tenth Amendment Center TENTHAMENDMENTCENTER.COM by Lex Green, Illinois Tenth Amendment Center Rights and privileges are misunderstood by legislators and citizens alike. The application of law from various jurisdictions using conflicting The relationship of state government to the national government in our federal system must not be mistaken. To allow the national government the right to tell state citizens what they can or cannot do violates the contract between the states that is the foundation of our country. The purpose of national intervention into the affairs of citizens is only allowed in the case that state law becomes abusive of the rights of citizens. As long as the state is not abusive of rights, it is in compliance with the federal contract and national interference is not needed. Ultimately, that was the reason for the 14th Amendment. Trump has said that it was the State's responsiblity to act--and those State's most affected by the virus were unprepared and their leaders failed to act appropriately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, moos54 said: From what I read, they made these decisions because even the president of your beautiful country did not want to take them Maybe you need to read something else, like the U.S. Constitution.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moos54 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 minute ago, happyone said: You need to learn our constitution---regardless of the reasons (Covid19 included) it is the State's responsibility to protect their own people States Rights and Responsibilities | | Tenth Amendment Center TENTHAMENDMENTCENTER.COM by Lex Green, Illinois Tenth Amendment Center Rights and privileges are misunderstood by legislators and citizens alike. The application of law from various jurisdictions using conflicting The relationship of state government to the national government in our federal system must not be mistaken. To allow the national government the right to tell state citizens what they can or cannot do violates the contract between the states that is the foundation of our country. The purpose of national intervention into the affairs of citizens is only allowed in the case that state law becomes abusive of the rights of citizens. As long as the state is not abusive of rights, it is in compliance with the federal contract and national interference is not needed. Ultimately, that was the reason for the 14th Amendment. Thanks At least like that, it gives the president more time to twitter 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 minute ago, moos54 said: Thanks At least like that, it gives the president more time to twitter That is such a stupid remark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 If Trump had ordered the country shutdown in January the news media would have accused him of acting like a dictator, and the Democrats would have again accused him of "abuse of power" and started impeachment hearings again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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