Sofia (2020) Part #1

[jabbath1987]

  On 4/16/2020 at 7:08 PM, bluewinner said:

each token is 10 cents (USD). 

Maybe the owners of VHTV are investing in a new camsite and they are using VHTV to test it and advertise it ! 🤔

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But this site is crap. There is no way to compete with sites like CB or Bonga...

[StnCld316]

  On 4/16/2020 at 5:27 PM, jabbath1987 said:

New place apparently in Bulgaria. Anna & Alex are there. Wonder how they made it into the EU 😁

Not sure who will be participants there. @StnCld316 more work for you...

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Has been taken care of.

Thanks

[bluewinner]

  On 4/16/2020 at 7:06 PM, groomy said:

In the old apartment they have orgies.

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is that the free site which had only one apartment ?

 

[Robwin]

  On 4/16/2020 at 7:01 PM, jabbath1987 said:

I don't know the price for tokens there but it is totally ridiculous to pay for anything there as you can see it pretty much for the same price in far better quality on VHTV and you even get the whole archives there too...

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Good advertising strategy 😁👍

[bluewinner]

  On 4/16/2020 at 7:09 PM, jabbath1987 said:

But this site is crap. There is no way to compete with sites like CB or Bonga...

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yeah, it's 💩😅

[bluewinner]

[groomy]

  On 4/16/2020 at 7:08 PM, bluewinner said:

each token is 10 cents (USD). 

Maybe the owners of VHTV are investing in a new camsite and they are using VHTV to test it and advertise it ! 🤔

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This is a question of competition and advantages

1) What VHTV can give to models - what not have in CB, Bonga, LJ, MyFreeCams, Camsoda?

2) What VHTV can give to visitors&donators - what not have in CB, Bonga, LJ, MyFreeCams, Camsoda?

This area is already crowded. And the giants have an overwhelming market share. Win is possible only through unique offer, revolution, real advantages for models or customers.

For example, the unsuccessful attempt by BongaCams to make new market in VHTV area was justified. Bonga had a great start-up capital (more than other participants in this field) + models pool + advertising for millions visitors&donators Bongacams. They made a mistake with concept (general pattern of behavior not successful in this audience) and did not reach the expected profit.

That is, they potentially had advantages over all projects (RLC/VHTV/Camarades)

- big pool models/pornstars

- regular orgies, big parties

- best cams in industry

- good apts 

- big budget by which other projects can be removed from the game, if necessary.

[Robwin]

  On 4/16/2020 at 5:27 PM, jabbath1987 said:

New place apparently in Bulgaria. Anna & Alex are there. Wonder how they made it into the EU 😁

 

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Good EU closed borders eh well when it suits 😁

[bluewinner]

  On 4/16/2020 at 7:18 PM, groomy said:

This is a question of competition and advantages

1) What VHTV can give to models - what not have in CB, Bonga, LJ, MyFreeCams, Camsoda?

2) What VHTV can give to visitors&donators - what not have in CB, Bonga, LJ, MyFreeCams, Camsoda?

This area is already crowded. And the giants have an overwhelming market share. Win is possible only through unique offer, revolution, real advantages for models or customers.

For example, the unsuccessful attempt by BongaCams to make new market in VHTV area was justified. Bonga had a great start-up capital (more than other participants in this field) + models pool + advertising for millions visitors&donators Bongacams. They made a mistake with concept (general pattern of behavior not successful in this audience) and did not reach the expected profit.

That is, they potentially had advantages over all projects (RLC/VHTV/Camarades)

- big pool models/pornstars

- regular orgies, big parties

- best cams in industry

- good apts 

- big budget by which other projects can be removed from the game, if necessary.

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with the spygasm they made one giant mistake and it was that all the cameras except for bathroom's were free to watch, so no one would really need to pay anything to watch. and then they tried to make up for it by introducing portable cams and tokens which turned it into a camsite and ruined the whole thing. 

if they were smarter that project was very interesting and could become a success, their website and picture quality was much better too. 

[StnCld316]

  On 4/16/2020 at 7:06 PM, groomy said:

In the old apartment they have orgies.

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realmycam.com is a site that sits in the 404 at the moment. Page Cannot be Displayed.   

[StnCld316]

  On 4/16/2020 at 7:40 PM, Sparkles said:

Yes.. for a very long time..

https://camcaps.net/forums/topic/12708-realmycamcom-voyeur-news-announcements/

like the twin they had based on ukraine

 

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OK  One of those Sites sitting out of circulation for over a year trying to make a comeback.  

[bluewinner]

  On 4/16/2020 at 7:36 PM, Sparkles said:

But they never hide that they was a camsite.. especially with the chat with "orders". Also funny was the dubious ridiculous tokens competition to kick out participants

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yes, that's what I mean. if they had made it a voyeur-site like RLC & VHTV it would have been more successful. it could have been a show like big brother with sex and more drama, but they could not resist making it more and more like Bonga. 

first you could only chat with participant and give them some tokens if you liked but there was no webcam, then they introduced portable cams, then the stupid competition  that was a constant source of stress for girls and made the guys irrelevant 😅

I hope VHTV statys the way it is and not follow Spygasm's example.