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Discussion:2019 Novel Corona Virus (Covid19) and It's Political Ramifications #3


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15 minutes ago, nagachilli2 said:

Top vaccine expert, Dr Rick Bright, has been dismissed from his position because he had the audacity to challenge Trump over the use of these drugs. based on what has already been mentioned here, such as lack of enough evidence and serious side effects. He had major reservations about it ...Needless to say, Trump said he'd never heard of Dr Bright...Yeh, right...😏

What an absolute muppet this guy is!...He makes our Boris look like Winston Churchill...🥴

 

 

That was Dr. Bright's side of the story. I think you need to dig a little deeper before coming to a final conclusion on this. There's a bit more to this dismissal.

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10 hours ago, moos54 said:

So for you the opinion of a single doctor who does not test in the rules of medicine is better than the opinion of a whole armada of doctors around the world who make them a real test?

i think the first real numbers don't lie but I suppose you prefer to believe this professor because your president immediately believed in this product, except that now we see that it was not necessarily the right choice

it's still strange that his own scientific advisor is not very keen on having this drug as a treatment but at the same time who he is to give his opinion? :angel:

I even believe that this famous president avoids to date to mention the name of this drug as being the miracle product

Ridge it might be time to stop making sheep and have your own ideas instead of blindly following someone else's :angel:

You are the sheep who blindly follows the dictates of "so called experts" and authority figures.  I have more original ideas than you could ever hope to have. Your subjection to authority figures severely limits your ability to have original thoughts.

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17 minutes ago, Ridgerunner said:

You are the sheep who blindly follows the dictates of "so called experts" and authority figures.  I have more original ideas than you could ever hope to have. Your subjection to authority figures severely limits your ability to have original thoughts.

Are you serious in your words?
Frankly immediately signs a discharge so as not to be resuscitated, that these "so-called experts" do not waste time with you and your original thoughts

In fact what I see is that a certain influential person decided that it was the right medicine, and as a good sheep, you drink his words
Except you have almost the entire medical and scientific community saying the opposite
Personally, I prefer to follow the advice of "so-called experts" rather than a guy who knows nothing about medical

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1 minute ago, moos54 said:

Are you serious in your words?
Frankly immediately signs a discharge so as not to be resuscitated, that these "so-called experts" do not waste time with you and your original thoughts

In fact what I see is that a certain influential person decided that it was the right medicine, and as a good sheep, you drink his words
Except you have almost the entire medical and scientific community saying the opposite
Personally, I prefer to follow the advice of "so-called experts" rather than a guy who knows nothing about medical

My opinion about Hydroxychloroquine is based upon info from other doctors' work and the testimony of people who have taken the drug, not the president's opinion. 

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9 hours ago, Robwin said:

Perhaps that's why everything is fucked up? Get women involved and the menstrual cycle and all logic goes out the bloody window 🤣🤪

I don't think that is were it goes 😏

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8 minutes ago, Ridgerunner said:

My opinion about Hydroxychloroquine is based upon info from other doctors' work and the testimony of people who have taken the drug, not the president's opinion. 

For the moment all the studies prove that this drug does not do any better than a placebo, therefore nothing proves for all these people who speak about it, that it is this drug which saved their lives
But they seem to have become experts for you :biggrin:

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1 minute ago, moos54 said:

For the moment all the studies prove that this drug does not do any better than a placebo, therefore nothing proves for all these people who speak about it, that it is this drug which saved their lives
But they seem to have become experts for you :biggrin:

Those people are more of an expert than you are.:biggrin:

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4 minutes ago, Ridgerunner said:

Those people are more of an expert than you are.:biggrin:

I have never claimed the opposite, this is also why I listen to the real specialists when they say that for the moment there is no effective treatment against covid19 and that the only thing to do  to save lives as long as the sanitary provisions are not optimal, it is to stay at home

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1 minute ago, moos54 said:

I have never claimed the opposite, this is also why I listen to the real specialists when they say that for the moment there is no effective treatment against covid19 and that the only thing to do  to save lives as long as the sanitary provisions are not optimal, it is to stay at home

You choose your experts. I'll choose mine.  Also, how long do people need to stay at home?  The shutdown has already caused 26 million Americans to lose their jobs. Eventually, there will be no economy to reopen.

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10 minutes ago, Ridgerunner said:

You choose your experts. I'll choose mine.  Also, how long do people need to stay at home?  The shutdown has already caused 26 million Americans to lose their jobs. Eventually, there will be no economy to reopen.

I know the situation in the United States is complicated, and surely more complex than in other countries
I will be more than two months without having been at work, but for the moment it is not too worrying because I have a certain job security
I also know that there will always be differences of opinion between Democrats and Republicans, but from what I have seen, even Republican governors, therefore from the same political party as the president, do not want to follow his ideas on a too rapid deconfinement, because precisely what is necessary to protect the population is not yet acquired
I almost feel that soon to be 50,000 dead is not yet enough for some, as long as it does not affect personally, I have the impression that everyone does not care completely, it is this non-foutism that will attract even more people to the grave

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