Maturin

I didn't offer any bullshit about your personal circumstances, perhaps that was a different conversation. You made the choice to believe, that's fine with me and you'll find that it is fine with most atheists. Where people who have faith run into problems with atheists is when they use their beliefs to try to dictate government policy or social morals using the bible/Qu-ran/Torah as their unquestionable authority. That is absolutely the wrong way to make policy or force people to conform to standards drawn up well over 1,000 years ago. You choose whatever reality you like, only a total dick would be against your freedom to do that but if you were trying to force your reality onto someone else who believes a different thing, then that's when the problems would start. I'd only ask you for a picture of God, or something like his definitive instructions regarding how to deal with a specific problem that society faces, if you were to start saying that everyone should do things the way you tell them because God told you so. I hope you understand that people who don't believe in your God would have no intention of taking your demands seriously unless you were to provide an argument containing testable data and logic with which the majority could discuss. tl:dr The problem lies with religionists dictating to non-religionists or people of different religions that the world should be ordered according to some guy that no one can see hear or question. There is no problem with people being religious, just don't try to foist it onto others - essentially, do unto others as as you would have them do unto you (a maxim that existed for many years before it was credited to Jesus).

I don't doubt anyone's faith and they are welcome to it so long as they don't try to turn their faith or belief into policy and politics that affect people of different faiths and beliefs. Most rational people would argue that theological belief and knowledge are two mutually exclusive terms but there'd be no point making the effort to show the difference in this case.

From Amazon, the blurb from Does God Exist, Hans Kung: Does God exist? Who is God? And can we ultimately trust in any reality? These questions have been among the greatest subjects of human speculation since history began, but not until modern times has the reality of God been so strongly called into doubt. In this monumental study, written for men and women of all faiths (and of none), Hans Kung, the most renowned and controversial theologian in the world today, first traces the rise of modern atheism in the works of such great thinkers as Descartes, Pascal, Feuerbach, Marx, Nietzsche and Freud, and then demonstrates--brilliantly and in terms that make sense to us today--why a ""yes"" to God remains a more reasonable and responsible belief than its alternative, nihilism. Straight away, without even buying the book, from only reading the back cover, it is obvious that he is lying to his audience. Atheism is not nihilism. The difference between these two concepts is very easy to describe and understand: Atheism is the rejection of religious belief. It is the unwillingness to surrender to an authority that is unproven, untested and immutable. Nihilism is the rejection of meaning in existence; nothing matters anyway because we're all gonna die in the end. It is absolutely irresponsible to defer matters that affect our existence to the "teachings" of the Bible or the word of God, a book that is wholly unreasonable in the correct sense of that word. Existence is full of emergent meaning for all of us; family, friends, career, sport, arts, the self, the community etc etc. These meanings are shared by all of us no matter our religious or lack of religious belief. There is no motivation to read this book based on that blurb because I can 99.9% guarantee that it will be filled with the same rehashed pseudoscience and cod-philosophy that people who feel threatened about atheism come out with all the time. I'm willing to accept that I may be wrong about that assumption however, so if you don't mind could you please write a short summary of how he demonstrates that "Yes to God," is the best choice to make?

You have warned me multiple times about trying to rationalise with this individual We know he won't read those books even though you've given him the best advice he's probably ever recevied. I'm just waiting for one of them to say, "Hang on, I have read it and in my opinion Professor Richard Dawkins, FRS, FRSL, emeritus fellow of New College, Oxford, is talking a load of horse shit."

The only way to sensibly discuss the difference between science and religion is if both parties have an understanding about both subjects. Religionists prove time and time again that they are unable and unwilling to grasp the rudiments of the scientific method or basic logic, and regularly come out with things such as, "OK then, so explain why if there are humans then we still have monkeys, you can't, hah, God and I win again! Fuck your "evolution!" There is literally nothing you can do to argue with someone who serenely states that the evidence and data in front of them is not real and that they believe the narrative of a 2,000 year old tribal myth put together by vicious barbarians in order to justify the genocide they were carrying out in that region at the time. Religionists can believe whatever they want, so long as their beliefs do not cause harm, hardship or suffering to others. When this happens then the belief systems underlying their negative actions must be treated as an illness and these people should be removed of any influence and power invested in them. I don't believe in God, not just because there is no evidence to justify a belief in God but for two other main reasons; 1) The people that most vociferously claim that they are doing God's will are generally downright nasty bastards that will definitely be waiting behind until that camel passes through the eye of a needle before they get into heaven - see Presidents, Prime Ministers, Kings, Queens, Jihadists, Evangelical Snake Oil preachers, The pedophiles in the Catholic Church, the Crusaders etc etc. 2) There is literally no point in giving God any credit for the good things we see about us unless blame is also apportioned to the all seeing, all powerful being for the bad shit too. In which case, fuck God in all his incarnations. What a capricious, jealous and immature little prick that guy must be. The universe, reality, is an awesome place full of majesty, wonder and mystery that we are only just starting to understand clearly. And it might well be that our current understanding is a dead end and in 40 years some new scientific or mathematical apparatus will give us a much clearer picture of how we came to be here and what makes everything tick. That's how science works - it uses the best tools available at the time to improve our understanding of reality and also improve our existence within it - it is entirely down to science that we are having this conversation now, if it was left up to God then we would still be living in caves or wandering the savannah totally at risk to the elements, disease and predators.

I see that the kitchen camera has been moved down to a much better position. This camera is now the best place to view Leora's sexy times!

It's obvious that you have put a lot of hard work in behind the scenes whilst making sure to always listen to your subscribers. An excellent achievement within a year, warm congratulations on your success, well done!

Anyone that's been around for a while knows that she reads the forums. Indeed it must of been only 5/6 weeks ago that she was here and participating. That account is now deleted but I'm sure the messages still remain. And the question is, why did she delete her account after such a short while? The answer is pretty obvious really. We're aware that plenty of tenants know about and read the forums, some even participate from time to time. I'm sure that plenty more tenants would participate (which would be to the benefit of we subscribers, as well as CC and RLC's relationship), IF the mods didn't allow the RLC forums to be such a toxic wasteland of shitposts, irrelevance and specifically spiteful opinions. Say what you want about or to me I can take it, but a line should be drawn and enforced when comments that are designed to upset the tenants and actually discourage them from participating are not moderated. Pff, this has all been said before. I remember quite a while back one or two mods were actually posting about how shit it's become. This is all I've got to say about this particular episode as nothing's gonna change.

She's early 20s. Young women is more correct yes. Thanks for weighing in though, really valuable contribution from you coming out on the side of the body shamers. Good for you bud.

Excellent. Here's hoping you hold yourself to higher standards in future. Have a good day.

People don't care what you think mate. What are you doing? Seriously, what need is there to risk upsetting someone who is obviously so unhappy with her body that she has had surgery to it, just because you don't like what she choose to do for herself? Who cares what you believe in, are you that desperate for your opinions to be validated by strangers on the internet that you need to act like a complete - I'm obviously not going to finish that sentence because apparently cyberbullies are snowflakes and we must not call them names. It has everything to do with being behind the cover of the internet, stop lying to yourself, or prove me wrong by recording yourself with your phone body shaming the next young women that you meet. @Spoon I hear you but we also have the right and the freedom to disagree with these people, as annoying as it is to stoop to their level. Indeed, if/when Kitty reads this pathetic episode, it will probably do some good to show that not everyone here is like this and that the loudest doesn't speak for us all. P.S. Mods, sorry for calling cyberbullies "snowflakes," I meant all cyberbullies in general and was not referring specifically or solely to the example that we have here.

There's also ways of being a decent human being without resorting to body shaming young women from behind the cover of the internet and an anonymous screen name. As was said, is cyberbullying OK now but calling out cyberbullies not OK?

So it appears any response I make is just being deleted by the mods. Is it any wonder that the RLC forums of CC are so worthless and toxic when people aren't allowed to challenge the shit that gets written, yet the shit that gets written is allowed to stay? Pff, this'll get "moderated" too, so what's the point.

Yeah, you do know she reads the forums, right? That's just the sort of thing that you should be saying to young girls, isnt it? Well done you Billy Bigbollocks. 1) Your opinion doesn't mean shit 2) If you've got an awful opinion that could upset a young girl, keep it to yourself big man.

Definitely.

I think that a few of the tenants, especially the ones that are not bringing any value or incentive to sign up must actually be the owners of the site. If you entertain that idea then it falls into place why the site has gone downhill. The way it stands at the moment is that these couples/owners (and it is the same ones who always "win" any poll about who needs to leave, yet never do so) must be earning enough to pay for their bills and food etc but they are unwilling to put in the effort needed to compete with Voyeur House or at least make a good fraction of the metric fuck ton of money that the others sites are making. When replying to their poll I took the time to send a long action plan of what they need to do, some were very easy wins and some a bit more long term. Absolutely none of them have been acted upon - in fact almost the next day they did some crappy 10 bucks off offer that completely ruined the experience of the site for any new visitor, this payment thing is still there. A new vistor is shown boring tenants doing nothing except look at their phones or play dress up for 10 minutes then VV asks people to pay to see more angles of the same boring tenants!!! Sorry but anyone in their right mind would close the page and never look back!! I don't know why it bothers me so much really, except for the fact that the tenants/owners seem like decent people that are sitting on a gold mine but have no tools to extract the wealth. It's not their fault that they are boring, I'm sure they've just had enough of the whole experience - and it really shows! Guys and girls, you are standing in your own way. You are making all the wrong decisions. That happens in life, especially when you're both an owner and a tenant - if this is the case then move out, rent your own place away from the cameras and get some people in the apartments that are going to drive traffic and profit to your site. Follow the plan I sent, seriously!

“I will splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the wind," JFK.

I'd much prefer it if you addressed YOUR demons in public, here on CC. Don't worry we're an understanding bunch, you're safe. So Howard, let's discuss what went wrongin your life to make you the man you currently are... GO!

To be honest I was hoping that you would only keep one couple and start new with the rest. I realy think it's needed

Taxes that I don't mind paying. My only concern about where my tax money goes is that it is properly allocated to the social welfare programs that me, my loved ones and everyone I meet benefit from throughout our lives. And there I think is the pivot of the difference between TrotskydemocraticsocialdemocraticLeninist Europe and AmeriMeMeMeMeMeCa. You couldn't pay me enough to live in your country with the way you think, seriously.

I was trying to be generous and go by the standards that the Overton window in the US regarding socialism but it's too difficult when they willingly buy the right wing elite line that democratic socialism - a system in which the government aims to promote the public welfare through taxation and spending, within the framework of a capitalist economy - is regarded as socialism that will bring about a Bolshevik Red Terror. You've got your free market capitalism, with fenced social spending for public and national welfare = democratic socialism - pretty much most of the developed world. Then you've got your hypercapitalism, in which the wealth of labour is concentrated and accelerated ever upwards, where the politicians are capable of only short term thinking, and the markets are contrived, where the richest get to design and amend the rules of the game, usually through the granting of ever increasing tax breaks (just for winning their own game) = the US, where any attempt to level this playing field in favour of its citizenry rather than business is branded as socialist, communist or Trotskyist. The branding is of course done by the hypercapitalists in their media who have the most to lose should they be required to pay a fair tax rate. Item #1 on the US foreign policy To Do List is surely to, Crush Any Nation That Threatens To Show Our Nation Up For The Massive Ponzi Scheme That It Is (And Get All Their Natural Resources Whilst Doing So). Looking at it like that certainly makes some sense out of what's currently happening in Venezuela. There is a US led economic war against the nation with the largest proven oil reserves on the planet. Does anybody seriously think that with so much potential oil wealth that the nation will seriously not exploit that on international markets by becoming a closed, planned economy or worse a communist state? Where is the threat to the US if it were to do so anyway? The US oil dollar will be affected of course. So, instead of allowing the "free" market, that for some reason the US seems so proud of to find its balance, we see what is happening now in Venezuela... We see the Saudis acting in concert with the US and Israel ( the modern day Axis of almost everything that's wrong on this planet today) flooding the market with cheap oil to put socialist Venezuela into poverty , whilst the US stirs up dissent using it's time honoured method of infiltration, distraction and deception to capitalise on the terrible economic situation that they have created. Meanwhile US folks back home? "Hahaha, look what those terrible socialists have done to themselves, gosh darn it I'm so glad that I'm not a socialist or a democratic socialist or a social democrat or TrotskyMarxistScandinavianLenninist, I just hope I never get sick or expect 6 months paid maternity leave. GO USA!!" Ah fuck it, I can't be bothered! It's massively demotivating to continue more than 30 minutes typing to show people in the US that they are being fed bullshit which is ruining their country and others when you know that the most likely reply will be some youtube propaganda, that took 30 seconds to find, which glosses over all the pertinent facts and cherry picks the ones that = USA great.

Except every other Western democratic country. Ask Germany, UK, Scandinavia, France, Italy, Spain - Jesus too many to name, ask them how ther paid holiday, collective worker bargaining, health care that's free at the point of need, health and saftey regulation, living wage, state pension, maternity leave for both parents, need I go on? I think you'll find that democratic socialism is working a heck of a lot better than you realise. If you define the "failiure" of socialism as the nascent attempts by South American countries to follow the European model that are systematically infiltrated and crushed by the US secret services and overt US economic bullying every time, then as I keep saying, I don't think you understand what socialism is. I don't know whether to laugh or cry when I see posts like this cheering about how you are allowing the hypercapitalists in your country to completely fuck you over whilst they ensure that neighbouring countries are unable to follow a different path. What a world we live in :(

There really is no point talking about what socialism actually is in this thread mate. When Bernie Sanders is called far left then you know that you're fighting against a elite-skewed Overton window that they've brought upon themselves.

https://impeachdonaldtrumpnow.org/case-for-impeachment/grounds-for-impeachment/ Any one of these would do for any other president. But purely on a diplomatic level, he's turned America into a laughing stock, even worse than W. managed.

Especially when it gives you the chance to duck out of answering a simple question with the answer which is so obvious because you haven't the balls to admit that you've been talking out of your arse - again.