Amy3 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I agree Ze, it’s not the USA that’s at fault here, unfortunately, it’s the tenant selection. VH has pushed the notion of voyeurism well beyond the idea of seeing people living under cams and seeing how they deal with it. It’s over 50% on the cam show side of it and the expectations are just that. A normal couple without fun guests just living under cams won’t sell anymore no matter where it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ze81 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, Amy3 said: I agree Ze, it’s not the USA that’s at fault here, unfortunately, it’s the tenant selection. VH has pushed the notion of voyeurism well beyond the idea of seeing people living under cams and seeing how they deal with it. It’s over 50% on the cam show side of it and the expectations are just that. A normal couple without fun guests just living under cams won’t sell anymore no matter where it is. Indeed an place in usa,France etc can be good,as long as the residents are good.Absoluty all cam sites are an mix of shows with reality(unless there is some new site that I don't know),Kinda hard words but..it's to adapt or "die". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkles Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, Amy3 said: I agree Ze, it’s not the USA that’s at fault here, unfortunately, it’s the tenant selection. VH has pushed the notion of voyeurism well beyond the idea of seeing people living under cams and seeing how they deal with it. It’s over 50% on the cam show side of it and the expectations are just that. A normal couple without fun guests just living under cams won’t sell anymore no matter where it is. Yep.. and we see that in basically almost all countries (ukrania may have a few very rare exceptions comparing with the number of houses they already got since day 1) with the russia exception where it seems to be easy "fun guests" to visit (told that to groomy today) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy3 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 I think it’s also safe to say that a house is too big for VH viewing pleasure. Unless every room was filled with people living there, a house is just too big. You can’t get the cams in good position without creating huge blind spots that people will no doubt complain about. It just doesn’t work easily. This house has at least 2 bedrooms, most likely 3 and another bathroom. If those rooms aren’t filled with people, they just become blind spots and people feel like the tenants are hiding. You’d think VH would know all of this by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mib82 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Le novità in questo progetto non contano niente. No ai gay, no a quelli di lingua inglese, no a ciò che è diverso dalla solita routine. Qui a quanto pare piace solo vedere appartamenti con ragazze singole che non fanno un cazzo, gente ovviamente di lingua russa incomprensibile e coppie finte che fanno sesso solo per soldi. Per fortuna l’unica coppia italiana che finora regge e che almeno non finge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsme Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 So are they gone for good? Any updates from VHTV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkles Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, itsme said: So are they gone for good? Any updates from VHTV? Nothing till now.. the weirdest thing (all was like it was suppose before that) was that 2 days online with an empty house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfer06 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 my 1st exposure to voyeur sites appeared as a pop-up for rlc while i was searching for regular porn. it was what i now know is kira/nina kitchen. no people. i thought "why would i want to see this?" then 1 day naked girls appeared & i started to search & find out about the voyeur sites & cc. i'm sure that a lot of the viewers did similar things. watching an empty house or a house with nothing or lame activities isn't going to make it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groomy Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 8 hours ago, Amy3 said: What I hear you saying is that all of the tenants on ROW VH are poor and desperate and money is their only motivation. But then I’ve also heard you say that some one them don’t need the money, such as Bree and LP. So, the same can apply in the USA. What’s the difference? It’s the same in the USA. There are a ton of very poor people here. It’s no different here then it is there really. Yes, for sure there are more opportunities for employment in the USA, but there are still a lot of sex crazed people who would rather live a sex life on cam then deliver pizzas. For reals! Plus, if indeed if the tenants are as desperate for money as you seem to be saying that are, then I personally find it kind of sick to be watching it. I much prefer to think that the people doing this are doing it cause it’s fun and they want to explore this crazy lifestyle while also getting paid. If what you’re saying is true and they would really rather be delivering pizzas if given the choice, then no thanks! I don’t enjoy watching desperate, suffering people having sex on cam simply because they don’t have any other choice. Where’s the “real” fun and pleasure in that? 1) This is really difficult. I'll explain more simply. Well, take 2 random couples - one lives in the US (and has opportunity to get legal work in the US), another in a country with a low salary (Colombia, Venezuela - as an example where people just crowds into the sex industry to earn - right now). Сouple from the US will do whatever they like. If they are not swingers, do not want to expand their sex life - it will be boring. Kick out of VH? Well, OK. The nearest Pizzeria recruits workers of delivery. Couple from a low-wage country will be ready for anything. The interest in VH is maximal. And to keep statistics - they will do everything, without limits. Just because there are no other options. 2) Those who have normal job are unstable. Candy&Dean - do 3-4 orgies per month. But rest of the time is just an empty apartment/completely uninteresting. Lexy and Pete and Mira and Henry (well, they have a financial interest too, but is more for future. Together with normal work and VH - save up money for a cozy, beautiful house/big apartment) - are exception. 3) "fun and they want to explore this crazy lifestyle" - very difficult to find. You scold managers - but it's managers who find such people in small communities where they have similar interests. VH does not have its strong scouting service - so it's unrealistic, without a manager in country. 4) Everywhere there are poor people. However, there is a difference. In some countries - you can do everything, be the best specialist - but still the salary will be small. Just because - everyone have small salary. In prosperous countries, poor people are usually not very good people. This means that probability "shit happens" on the broadcast increases dramatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleyxyz Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, groomy said: 1) This is really difficult. I'll explain more simply. Well, take 2 random couples - one lives in the US (and has opportunity to get legal work in the US), another in a country with a low salary (Colombia, Venezuela - as an example where people just crowds into the sex industry to earn - right now). Сouple from the US will do whatever they like. If they are not swingers, do not want to expand their sex life - it will be boring. Kick out of VH? Well, OK. The nearest Pizzeria recruits workers of delivery. Couple from a low-wage country will be ready for anything. The interest in VH is maximal. And to keep statistics - they will do everything, without limits. Just because there are no other options. 2) Those who have normal job are unstable. Candy&Dean - do 3-4 orgies per month. But rest of the time is just an empty apartment/completely uninteresting. Lexy and Pete and Mira and Henry (well, they have a financial interest too, but is more for future. Together with normal work and VH - save up money for a cozy, beautiful house/big apartment) - are exception. 3) "fun and they want to explore this crazy lifestyle" - very difficult to find. You scold managers - but it's managers who find such people in small communities where they have similar interests. VH does not have its strong scouting service - so it's unrealistic, without a manager in country. 4) Everywhere there are poor people. However, there is a difference. In some countries - you can do everything, be the best specialist - but still the salary will be small. Just because - everyone have small salary. In prosperous countries, poor people are usually not very good people. This means that probability "shit happens" on the broadcast increases dramatically. Wow, that's quite a harsh statement if i read it right, poor people are usually not very good people? How is that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groomy Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, ashleyxyz said: Wow, that's quite a harsh statement if i read it right, poor people are usually not very good people? How is that? No. In countries where - there is no possibility to earn. No choice. In prosperous countries, there are opportunities to stop the poor and earn. Everyone have his own story. Someone have problems with the documents. Someone credit load. Someone got used to such a life and it's normal for him. But there is always a possibility. Establish a normal life. Especially in the US. For example young Jennifer Lawrence - lived in apt with rats and counted every cent. We also take into account a certain minimum (housing, clothing, communications) - below which VH simply does not invite/do not know about the candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy3 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Thx groomy! Will read tomorrow for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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