WatcherCC Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Why don't we try to get back on track to the important topic of how sweet Nicole's nipple looks gently pressing into her slender arm 😋 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyone Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 25 minutes ago, WatcherCC said: Why don't we try to get back on track to the important topic of how sweet Nicole's nipple looks gently pressing into her slender arm 😋 0 She is a beauty and Karl, I think, a lucky man 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy3 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, happyone said: Sounds a lot like the RLC policies 😑 From the perspective of the talent and their privacy, RLC > VHTV. It's just a fact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 16 hours ago, Amy3 said: And there you have it ladies and gentlemen! The proof I've been looking for. I agree, what we see here is in fact a vanilla version of these people's actual lives. Oh sure, it's always possible for people to record content and plaster it on the internet, but is this really that common among voyeur content? Compared to porn, hardly! Plus, it then becomes the job of the site to squash and leaked footage. I've said this for a long time. The subscriber would be far better served with much better and diverse content without the existence of the archives and dare I say it, the ability to post caps here. If I ran a voyeur site, I would only permit caps from the free cams and the previews and I would never maintain an archive. Instead I would have a 72 hour timeline and that's it. Yes, this would create a black market for videos, but the chances of them being readily available to the public at large would be seriously curtailed. I can promise you that for a majority of tenants, it's that archive that causes them to worry the most.l and thus limits what they will do on cam. Plus, it also stops potentially great talent from ever appearing in the first place. I'm telling that the archive comes with consequences. I can't believe that having the archives will hinder what people are willing to do on any site, as soon as you switch on any cam you are already at the mercy of the internet and it doesn't matter if it is the parent company or not that holds the footage because anyone determined enough will find the footage/caps they are after. 13 hours ago, Amy3 said: Yes, and that's my point. We are missing some great things I think because people aren't willing to forever have their sex life recorded on someone else's website. I think VHTV should compromise and let any past tenant delete their recording if they chose to. This would help ease that concern. If the tenant doesn't care, then it can stay. As for being able to have video's deleted from the archives well this is a problem that for those who have been paying subs either before or because a couple/individual has joined, well imo if the couple/individual are happy to take money for providing content then if they wish the videos to be removed then they should return said money. Because if you don't want it to stay in the archives then don't do it. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WatcherCC Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 The archives belong to VHTV and is part of their digital property. They didn't steal it - they paid for it and now they own it and can do with it as they please including giving it all away for free (providing their contract with the tenants doesn't prohibit this). No business in the world would or should give up their rightful property unless they have a very good reason for doing so. As to the point that we might be missing out because the archives exist - this point is mute, they do exist! This is the VHTV product: Live + Archive + TImeline. Want to see how the world looks Live + No archive + Paid timeline? Checkout RLC Want to see other configurations? Spygasm, Camerads, Voyeur Villa and even Chaturbate. There are even some illegal sites out there where no one knows about the cameras... My point is that we are in a VHTV product topic and somehow ended up pontificating what it would look like if it was something else. It's not something else. We can't make it something else even if we wanted. Most of us are happy as it is anyway - and if we're not we have other options. So what's the point of this long tedious discussion? To what end? To convince us that we might be missing out on something? And then what? Seriously - what's the point? What's the endgame? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy3 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 I'm just explaining the consequences of it's existence in a calm and rationale manner. Much of the comments in response are off the mark. I'll spare you my defense of them. If you read what I actually said, you'd understand my point of view. I don't intend to change VHTV in regards to the archives. I'm simply explaining this from the perspective of potential tenants. ❤️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WatcherCC Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 14 minutes ago, Amy3 said: I'm just explaining the consequences of it's existence in a calm and rationale manner. Much of the comments in response are off the mark. I'll spare you my defense of them. If you read what I actually said, you'd understand my point of view. I don't intend to change VHTV in regards to the archives. I'm simply explaining this from the perspective of potential tenants. ❤️ I think people understand the consequences of it's existence but like the VHTV product the way it is. Are you trying to convince them to change their mind? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squish Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Amy likes to play devils advocate. No topic too small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy3 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 22 minutes ago, WatcherCC said: I think people understand the consequences of it's existence but like the VHTV product the way it is. Are you trying to convince them to change their mind? People here don't seem to understand the consequences. The existence of the archives is a deal breaker for many potential tenants. I believe that you would get a much wider variety.of talent if it didn't exist. Instead, because of it you only get the kinds of people who are willing to have their entire sex life stored on another site that is out of their control. That's the only kinds of people you can see here. Think of it like this. Imagine if there was no possibility of any of it to be recorded. Would you agree that more people would do this and would be willing to do more wild and crazy things? I do! Imagine if everything was broadcasted on the tenants Facebook page. Would you agree that you would see less wild and crazy things? I do! So, it's a spectrum and each person has to weigh their willingness to be vulnerable. The presence of the archive, the timeline, the allowance to post pics and vids in CC are all things a person has to consider before doing this. My point is that all of those things hinder or lessen the population of people willing to do this. You end up with either people in a rather desperate situation, true exhibitionists, or pros. No, I don't think VHTV should change. They are who they are and that's fine. All I'm saying is that the existence of the archives, etc... does mean that you will only get a particular type of person and you are missing out on other potentially great talent because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Amy3 said: People here don't seem to understand the consequences. The existence of the archives is a deal breaker for many potential tenants. I believe that you would get a much wider variety.of talent if it didn't exist. Instead, because of it you only get the kinds of people who are willing to have their entire sex life stored on another site that is out of their control. That's the only kinds of people you can see here. Think of it like this. Imagine if there was no possibility of any of it to be recorded. Would you agree that more people would do this and would be willing to do more wild and crazy things? I do! Imagine if everything was broadcasted on the tenants Facebook page. Would you agree that you would see less wild and crazy things? I do! So, it's a spectrum and each person has to weigh their willingness to be vulnerable. The presence of the archive, the timeline, the allowance to post pics and vids in CC are all things a person has to consider before doing this. My point is that all of those things hinder or lessen the population of people willing to do this. You end up with either people in a rather desperate situation, true exhibitionists, or pros. No, I don't think VHTV should change. They are who they are and that's fine. All I'm saying is that the existence of the archives, etc... does mean that you will only get a particular type of person and you are missing out on other potentially great talent because of it. I think you are wrong on this as realistically having or not having the archives will still give the same result, as soon as they are in front of a camera being broadcast for access through the internet the argument is mute as there will always be traces of it somewhere. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robwin Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Just In said: I think you are wrong on this as realistically having or not having the archives will still give the same result, as soon as they are in front of a camera being broadcast for access through the internet the argument is mute as there will always be traces of it somewhere. Ah, someone with common sense 👍👌 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy3 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, Just In said: I think you are wrong on this as realistically having or not having the archives will still give the same result, as soon as they are in front of a camera being broadcast for access through the internet the argument is mute as there will always be traces of it somewhere. Show me a site where for $40 I can see every single sex act that person performed on a voyeur site. Take Ary for example. Show me where I can watch every sex act that she did on Camarads. You might find some, but no where near all of them. For a mere $40, I can have access to all of her VHTV content in one spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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