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Ilka & Sam (2019) Part #1


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16 minutes ago, zoifan said:

 

No,no ... you don't get to question my sexual preference or label me here. Doesn't matter of I die or not. I just don't like it. Not my fault. I born like it. Sound familiar? 

 

You did not get the point. Porn producers do not mix male-gay porn with straight/lesbian porn. They have tried it, failed and they don't do it. Period. Why? read my post again. It is not about me being self centered. That is how it works. Juts to help you get the point, normally vegetarians don't go to a an expensive steakhouse and and order vegetable. Meat lovers don't go to vegetarian restaurant and complain why they don't serve meat. Nothing wrong with meat eaters or vegetarians. Juts different type of preference.

 

You can continue writing thick paragraphs and try to label people. It won't change things. try to get it. Porn industry does not have anything against gay people, but there is a reason how porn industry work they way it is right now.  

 

Since you like male-gay porn, it might be hard to understand how come others don't like it. But the earlier you get this point, the better for yourself, since things will not change.  If VH follow your non-self-centered guide, they loose business. They tried it it did not work. 

 

 

You questioned me first for what I was writing, I didn't do it. There is no point in discussing it as we have different perceptives about this issue. You are on the other side and you currently enjoy what you see and that's why you defending them so eagerly. But there are other people who are on the other side and feel neglected. I will be defending those people. 

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13 hours ago, jabbath1987 said:

I really have absolutely nothing against gay people and I support that you get a gay place but complaining about every non gay appartement or action all the time is for sure not the solution. 

My dear, departed Grandmother had a lot of sayings. One was based on
the old-style cast iron kettles, pots and pans, which were all black. She
would say, "That's a perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black."
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14 hours ago, hotkefguy said:

Trust me I know from Voyeur sites, I was for one year subcriber to both VoyeurVilla and Lifeundercam who were more open-minded sites. Now we are left only with this site, which insists that gay sex is not profitable and no one likes it... Jesus Christ! 😛

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and view here, it is good that you are making a stand for what you believe and are trying to get VH to reconsider openening bi/gay apartments. All I would ask is that when throwing out assertions that you are sure you are correct, so to claim VH is not open-minded & that VH insists that "no one likes it" is IMO ridiculous as they were the first I believe to offer gay apartments on these site's and at no time have they shied away from either showing or promoting this content when it happens, I would follow this with this question: If you believed that these statements were true then why does VHTV not delete all bi/gay content from their archives?

Now don't get me wrong I hope that they can find a way to be more diverse and have content that is to your liking, you never know what is around the corner & if it is something VH is willing to undertake again.

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13 minutes ago, Just In said:

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and view here, it is good that you are making a stand for what you believe and are trying to get VH to reconsider openening bi/gay apartments. All I would ask is that when throwing out assertions that you are sure you are correct, so to claim VH is not open-minded & that VH insists that "no one likes it" is IMO ridiculous as they were the first I believe to offer gay apartments on these site's and at no time have they shied away from either showing or promoting this content when it happens, I would follow this with this question: If you believed that these statements were true then why does VHTV not delete all bi/gay content from their archives?

Now don't get me wrong I hope that they can find a way to be more diverse and have content that is to your liking, you never know what is around the corner & if it is something VH is willing to undertake again.

Thanks for the observation. You are right on this. I should add in the end of the sentences ''anymore''. VoyeurHouseTV used to be an open-minded site that now cares more about money (as they responded in previous comments that they claim gay apartments are not profitable which I don't believe) than the enjoyment of their viewers.

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19 minutes ago, hotkefguy said:

Thanks for the observation. You are right on this. I should add in the end of the sentences ''anymore''. VoyeurHouseTV used to be an open-minded site that now cares more about money (as they responded in previous comments that they claim gay apartments are not profitable which I don't believe) than the enjoyment of their viewers.

May as well add my opinion to go with others. You say VH care more about money, well of course they do they are running a business. You wouldn't run a business at a loss would you, no I wouldn't either and no one else would. To be fair they tried it and it failed so it was withdrawn. You don't believe that, well that's up to you nothing I can do about that. However, to be honest, I do find it rather hypocritical that those who don't like watching gay men have no problem watching gay women, (lesbians), myself included. So yes, it is a funny old world but unfortunately nothing you or I can do about it.

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22 minutes ago, Robwin said:

May as well add my opinion to go with others. You say VH care more about money, well of course they do they are running a business. You wouldn't run a business at a loss would you, no I wouldn't either and no one else would. To be fair they tried it and it failed so it was withdrawn. You don't believe that, well that's up to you nothing I can do about that. However, to be honest, I do find it rather hypocritical that those who don't like watching gay men have no problem watching gay women, (lesbians), myself included. So yes, it is a funny old world but unfortunately nothing you or I can do about it.

So much loss it would have that it would close down because of a gay room? There are other rooms on the site that activity rarely happens, but they still keep them. I don't understand how extra money from LGBT subcribers would be a loss... Like, seriously, we would be extra subscribers. Some else is going on and I think it has to do with the country they are based in, Russia, which being gay there is believed to be a crime.

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12 minutes ago, hotkefguy said:

Some else is going on and I think it has to do with the country they are based in, Russia, which being gay there is believed to be a crime.

they have apartments in other countries too, I think Spain, Colombia, one from USA and etc. so I'd say it's more cultural and financial rather than legal. 

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11 minutes ago, hotkefguy said:

So much loss it would have that it would close down because of a gay room? There are other rooms on the site that activity rarely happens, but they still keep them. I don't understand how extra money from LGBT subcribers would be a loss... Like, seriously, we would be extra subscribers. Some else is going on and I think it has to do with the country they are based in, Russia, which being gay there is believed to be a crime.

Well we can argue about it till the cows come home (Sparkles may like that saying lol) but unfortunately it won't change anything but you can always hope.

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6 hours ago, hotkefguy said:

Thank you for the support in this issue man. We bi/gay  people really appreciate that. People with this minds in 2019 is what making scared of this kind of bussiness  to include gay action in their sites. You seem to be very self-centered by saying ''it extremely disturbs me to be forced to watch two male have sex with each other''. Who forced you to stay and watch this? You could change room, you will not ''die'' if you see it by accident. And if It destroys your sexual appetite. I know straight guys who are comfortable with sexuality they just don't bother cause they know who they are. If you accidentally watch gay porn and change room, this makes you less straight? Don't all think about yourself. If VoyeurHouseTv closed and you were only have one site to offer voyeurism but it was full with only gay rooms, i'm sure you would messaging them to make a straight version of it. But now your issue is suddenly all of us, the LGBT members who want some acceptance even in sites like this. And all these years I have seen mostly straight couple outdoor be more sexual to each other than gay couples, but no one judges them. And for the business perspective I think there are sites well-developed to satisfy the needs of porn of each kind of sex, but voyeurism is so under-developed and that's why the remaining sites should try and cover the needs of all people and not only narrow-minded and self centered people like you.

I saw Henry sucking dick even though I was not looking for it...I didn't want to see it so I canned my VH sub.  Stop trying to say we are against you when we know what we like!!!

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5 hours ago, hotkefguy said:

You questioned me first for what I was writing, I didn't do it. There is no point in discussing it as we have different perceptives about this issue. You are on the other side and you currently enjoy what you see and that's why you defending them so eagerly. But there are other people who are on the other side and feel neglected. I will be defending those people. 

After your non-stop whining ....nobody gives a fuck how you feel any more.

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