Ridgerunner Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 36 minutes ago, StnCld316 said: Iran will just drone more Saudi Oil Fields or burn more Embassies. What if the Saudis decide to retaliate for new strikes. Seems to me if Iranians attack Saudi land, then the Saudis are justified in attacking Iranian land. I think Iran will probably do something to disrupt shipping in the Persian Gulf. Maybe sinking a ship to block all traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyone Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 10:21 AM, jabbath1987 said: As far as I know the goal of the operation was to try to capture him. So no. He was killed in action when he tried to reach for his weapon. After some research--this is the truth--my source is Death of Osama bin Laden - Wikipedia EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG A U.S. national security official, who was not named, told Reuters that "'this was a kill operation', making clear there was no desire to try to capture bin Laden alive in Pakistan".[52] Another source referencing a "kill" (rather than "capture") order stated, "Officials described the reaction of the special operators when they were told a number of weeks ago that they had been chosen to train for the mission. 'They were told, "We think we found Osama bin Laden, and your job is to kill him,"' an official recalled. "The SEALs started to cheer."[53] Killing of bin Laden The SEALs encountered bin Laden on the third floor of the main building.[83][97] Bin Laden was unarmed, "wearing the local loose-fitting tunic and pants known as a kurta paijama", which were later found to have €500 and two phone numbers sewn into the fabric.[57][98][84][91] Bin Laden peered through his bedroom door at the Americans advancing up the stairs, and the lead SEAL fired at him. Reports differ, though agree eventually he was hit by shots to the body and head. The initial shots either missed, hit him in the chest, the side, or in the head.[99][98] A number of Bin Laden's female relatives were near him.[98] According to journalist Nicholas Schmidle, one of bin Laden's wives, Amal Ahmed Abdul Fatah, motioned as if she were about to charge; the lead SEAL shot her in the leg, then grabbed both women and shoved them aside.[54] Robert J. O'Neill, who later publicly identified himself as one of the SEALs who shot bin Laden,[100][101] states that he pushed past the lead SEAL, entered through the door and confronted bin Laden inside the bedroom. O'Neill states that bin Laden was standing behind a woman with his hands on her shoulders, pushing her forward. O'Neill immediately shot bin Laden twice in the forehead, then once more as bin Laden crumpled to the floor.[102] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue is the colour Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 The Iranians are playing with fire as they have restarted their uranium enrichment program again with no restrictions attached. They could of course use this uranium to make dirty bombs or a nuke in which case their future looks bleak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StnCld316 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 hour ago, blue is the colour said: The Iranians are playing with fire as they have restarted their uranium enrichment program again with no restrictions attached. They could of course use this uranium to make dirty bombs or a nuke in which case their future looks bleak. Just about every other Country has Nukes. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. That way everyone's on the same level playing field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyone Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 56 minutes ago, StnCld316 said: Just about every other Country has Nukes. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. That way everyone's on the same level playing field. That is a far cry from reality--acutally only 9 countries have nuclear weapons--out of 206 countries world wide Countries With Nuclear Weapons 2019 What countries have nuclear weapons? In the world today, there are nine major countries that currently possess nuclear weapons. Here is the list of all nine countries with nuclear weapons in descending order, starting with the country that has the most nuclear weapons at hand and ending with the country that has the least amount of nuclear weapons: Russia, 6,850 nuclear warheads The United States of America, 6,185 nuclear warheads France, 300 nuclear warheads China, 280 nuclear warheads The United Kingdom, 215 nuclear warheads Pakistan, 145 nuclear warheads India, 135 nuclear warheads Israel, 80 nuclear warheads North Korea, 15 nuclear warheads A nuclear weapon is defined as an explosive that has such an intense power behind it that the form of weaponry can cause massive amounts of damage in faraway places. 2Five nuclear-weapon states under the NPT 2.1United States 2.2Russia (formerly part of the Soviet Union) 2.3United Kingdom 2.4France 2.5China 3Other states declaring possession of nuclear weapons 3.1India 3.2Pakistan 3.3North Korea 4Other states believed to possess nuclear weapons 4.1Israel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 14 hours ago, happyone said: After some research--this is the truth--my source is Death of Osama bin Laden - Wikipedia EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG A U.S. national security official, who was not named, told Reuters that "'this was a kill operation', making clear there was no desire to try to capture bin Laden alive in Pakistan".[52] Another source referencing a "kill" (rather than "capture") order stated, "Officials described the reaction of the special operators when they were told a number of weeks ago that they had been chosen to train for the mission. 'They were told, "We think we found Osama bin Laden, and your job is to kill him,"' an official recalled. "The SEALs started to cheer."[53] Killing of bin Laden The SEALs encountered bin Laden on the third floor of the main building.[83][97] Bin Laden was unarmed, "wearing the local loose-fitting tunic and pants known as a kurta paijama", which were later found to have €500 and two phone numbers sewn into the fabric.[57][98][84][91] Bin Laden peered through his bedroom door at the Americans advancing up the stairs, and the lead SEAL fired at him. Reports differ, though agree eventually he was hit by shots to the body and head. The initial shots either missed, hit him in the chest, the side, or in the head.[99][98] A number of Bin Laden's female relatives were near him.[98] According to journalist Nicholas Schmidle, one of bin Laden's wives, Amal Ahmed Abdul Fatah, motioned as if she were about to charge; the lead SEAL shot her in the leg, then grabbed both women and shoved them aside.[54] Robert J. O'Neill, who later publicly identified himself as one of the SEALs who shot bin Laden,[100][101] states that he pushed past the lead SEAL, entered through the door and confronted bin Laden inside the bedroom. O'Neill states that bin Laden was standing behind a woman with his hands on her shoulders, pushing her forward. O'Neill immediately shot bin Laden twice in the forehead, then once more as bin Laden crumpled to the floor.[102] That's very strange. They could have easily used an airstrike. Why bring all the soldiers at risk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Seems the oberhasty killing action in Iraq might backfire on them as they now have to leave Iraq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StnCld316 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 hours ago, jabbath1987 said: Seems the oberhasty killing action in Iraq might backfire on them as they now have to leave Iraq. All Foreign Troops are being expelled. They just didn't give a Timeline as to when this expulsion is going to take place but it likely won't take them very long to come up with a date to have them leave. Nobody wants another War. Iran will get back at the US by Cyber Attacking. They'll pay Millions to the Underground World of the Internet to do their work. They Underground World don't care who they attack as long as they get paid in advance. They won't attack the Government sources directly but they'll likely go after Crippling the Private Sectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SierraTM Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 il y a 3 minutes, StnCld316 a dit : All Foreign Troops are being expelled. They just didn't give a Timeline as to when this expulsion is going to take place but it likely won't take them very long to come up with a date to have them leave. Nobody wants another War. Iran will get back at the US by Cyber Attacking. They'll pay Millions to the Underground World of the Internet to do their work. They Underground World don't care who they attack as long as they get paid in advance. They won't attack the Government sources directly but they'll likely go after Crippling the Private Sectors. Yea even Iran despite their anger towards the US, they won't want another war especially with a superpower. Any retaliation would be done online or through other meddling into US domestic affairs. They will also resist any more US interference in the Middle East & severely limit US troops movement (if any). They might even condone more terror planning against the US on their soils. In the long run, the US will not really benefit from taking out this very important general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teeshot Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 The vote to expel troops is non binding. The Parliament does not have the authority to order such. The troops are their at the invitation of the Prime Minister and he is not going to order them to leave. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StnCld316 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, SierraTM said: Yea even Iran despite their anger towards the US, they won't want another war especially with a superpower. Any retaliation would be done online or through other meddling into US domestic affairs. They will also resist any more US interference in the Middle East & severely limit US troops movement (if any). They might even condone more terror planning against the US on their soils. In the long run, the US will not really benefit from taking out this very important general. It would surprise me if they already have some Super Cells in the US already. They're just sitting quiet not to draw anyone's attention toward them. They've let countless Iranians in the US over the Years they don't know of who is capable of doing what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 4 hours ago, teeshot said: The vote to expel troops is non binding. The Parliament does not have the authority to order such. The troops are their at the invitation of the Prime Minister and he is not going to order them to leave. It was the prime minister who initiated the vote. When Iraq says the troops must leave they must go. Otherwise it will be hostile occupation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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