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7 minutes ago, TBG 150 said:

Not wholly true, Ridge. Florida is Republican led and we seem to be at the top of the fabricated numbers list, every day. However, our unemployment numbers are nowhere near the top of the list.

Numbers are just numbers. It's the way they are skewed to fit certain agendas.

The number of covid-19 deaths in Florida is no where close to New York nor New Jersey. And if you calculate deaths per 100,00 population Florida and Texas are not even  on the top ten list. Of the top ten states with the most covid-19 deaths and most deaths per 1000,000 population 8 are run by Democrat governors.

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The news media continually hypes the covid-19 infection rates and infection numbers, but never mentions the recovery rates.  As of today in my state of Illinois the Illinois Dept.of Public Health reported the covid-19 recovery rate in Illinois is 95%. Could that be why the news media never talks about covid-19 recovery rates?

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56 minutes ago, Ridgerunner said:

The news media continually hypes the covid-19 infection rates and infection numbers, but never mentions the recovery rates.  As of today in my state of Illinois the Illinois Dept.of Public Health reported the covid-19 recovery rate in Illinois is 95%. Could that be why the news media never talks about covid-19 recovery rates?

The recovery rate did not really help those who died of Covid-19.

 

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17 minutes ago, Alladino said:

The recovery rate did not really help those who died of Covid-19.

 

The recovery rate from cancer also didn't help the people who died from cancer did it?  But the cancer recovery rate is still an important measure of how successful treatment is. 

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2 minutes ago, Ridgerunner said:

If Democrat governors had done a better job of protecting people in nursing homes the recovery rate would probably be much higher.

All of Trump's failures are always made by somewhere else, right?

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Alladino said:

All of Trump's failures are always made by somewhere else, right?

 

 

 The failures in New York were not Trump failures, they were Gov. Cuomo  failures.   According to Fauci and Birx, Trump did everything that Fauci and Birx advised him to do.

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America stands alone

Nearly every country has struggled to contain the coronavirus. But only one affluent nation has suffered a severe, sustained outbreak for more than four months: the United States.

Our colleague David Leonhardt — the usual writer of this newsletter — and a team of other Times journalists around the world interviewed scientists and public health experts to reconstruct America’s unique failure. Their reporting points to two central themes.

First, the United States has a tradition of prioritizing individualism over government restrictions. That aversion to collective action helped lead to inadequate state lockdowns and inconsistent adherence to mask wearing based on partisanship instead of public health.

Second, many experts agree, America’s poor results stem in substantial measure from the performance of the Trump administration. “If you had to summarize our approach, it’s really poor federal leadership — disorganization and denial,” said Andy Slavitt, who ran Medicare and Medicaid from 2015 to 2017.

The administration’s travel restrictions were insufficient. Health officials initially gave confusing advice around wearing masks in public. And the president’s public statements — including claiming that the virus wasn’t serious and would disappear — regularly spread misinformation. In no other high-income country have political leaders so frequently departed from expert advice.

Together, skepticism toward collective action and the administration’s scattered approach have undermined the national response to the pandemic. True, the United States has made some improvements, including on mask wearing and testing. But unlike in South Korea, Germany and other countries, the virus continues to overwhelm daily life for Americans.

The frustration for many experts is that this outcome was avoidable. As one said: “This isn’t actually rocket science. We know what to do, and we’re not doing it.”

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4 hours ago, Ridgerunner said:

But it did help the 95% who recovered.

Misleading and misinformation. The recovery rate in the US is 51%. It
doesn't make a bit of difference what it is in one state.

In addition, at least 29 new coronavirus deaths and 1,876 new cases
were reported in Illinois on Aug. 5. Over the past week, there have been
an average of 1,644 cases per day, an increase of 32 percent from the
average two weeks earlier.

As of Thursday afternoon, there have been at least 190,101 cases and
7,795 deaths in Illinois since the beginning of the pandemic. That's
1500 cases per 100,000 people.

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It was the first time Facebook took down a post by Mr. Trump’s campaign for spreading virus misinformation, but it did not signal a change to the...

 

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