darkman Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 hours ago, moos54 said: Creo que la mayor parte de tu problema es que piensas que las personas que se ven frente a las cámaras siempre tienen algo que ganar. RLC ha estado en línea durante 10 años si no me equivoco y ha habido muchos participantes y especialmente invitados. frente a las cámaras, a menudo amigos cercanos de parejas o incluso miembros de la familia. No todo el mundo tiene por qué tener miedo a las cámaras, sobre todo porque en realidad no les afecta la vida, nadie las conoce y solo permanece visible en una pequeña comunidad, la nuestra. Ahora, ¿puedes decirme qué tenía que ganar la hermana de Martina para venir a la casa de su hermana y desnudarse frente a las cámaras cuando ella está casada y es mamá? ¿Cuántas hermanas o madres hemos visto frente a las cámaras de RLC? mucho, y personalmente dudo que hayan ganado algo de dinero para venir a ver a sus hijas 😁 En general, encuentro que muchas personas le dan demasiado poder a RLC como si estuvieran haciendo que llueva y brille en el sitio cuando en general lo único que hacen es subir los apartamentos online, lo que pasa en los apartamentos solo concierne a los participantes y sus vidas tienes razón en algunas cosas , los familiares , seguramente no ganan dinero en efectivo , pero si ayudan a los participantes , de manera indirecta están ayudando a ganar dinero . no pienso igual de los amigos creo que estos si cobran , quizás no siempre pero a veces si . no se te olvide que esto es un sitio voyeur , y como tal lo que queremos ver son personas normales delante de las camaras , no prostitutas de lujo o escorts , esto lo saben los participantes , unido al morbo natural que tenemos todos de imaginar ser deseados mostrándonos en unas cámaras que como bien dices , están muy controladas públicamente , eso ayuda . los amigos y pseudo parejas de las rusas , ganan que se hartan de follar gratis , a cambio de exponerse publicamente , ese es el precio . no contestate a mi pregunta , ¿ tu te mostrarias , dejarias a tu mujer mostrarse , a tu hija , a tu madre , a tu hermana ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tle Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 42 minutes ago, JenniferMom said: The alcohol plays I very specific role here I think. I have always believed the love and passion between these two is super strong. It always has been and it seems to continue. The alcohol didn't change their attraction to each other and cause them to make love (assuming they did in parking lot as has been reported). Their attraction and "real passion" has always been there and it seems to continue to be strong. But Martina IS trying to be the better person here and be respectful of Bogdan and the fact that Nelly is married. We have evidence that she is the one trying to slow and/or stop the relationship, not Nelly. What the alcohol does is weaken that resolve ... allowing the true love push through. I think many of us can relate to having a fling ... even if just a little flirting ... with someone they know they can't have. It can be painful and difficult to endure. But alcohol causes people to take risks they would not otherwise take. If Martina had lost her passion for Nelly, the alcohol could very likely not have had an impact. But she still loves Nelly and vice versa. Lastly, I think it is telling that Martina appears more respectful of Bogdan's marriage to Nelly than she is to her own lover and boyfriend Alberto. This is my speculation on what I have heard reported here. As always I could be entirely wrong. It seems the alcohol has to come out before you can really turn loose and have any fun.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddhm Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 It is simply total disrespect and absolutely ridiculous that alcohol or whatever passion , love , I don’t know what else there is , both these women ignore Bogdan .. life gives back what you do and there will come the time that they both “suffer “ much from their current ongoing situation . It is Barcelona and not a village that you haven’t a choice so you meet always the same people . If for both girls to satisfy their sexual needs and declare their love they go this way , why don’t they quit anything they do , abandon all , leave their guys and live happily ever after ? Why they torture themselves and for sure hurting people who truly love them ? Nelly keeps on cheating her husband in the name of what ? And Martina keeps on satisfying her lesbian side with a married woman that her husband has been treating her with respect .. at the same time , she seems not giving a shit to Alberto who is just ( sorry to say ) a guy without any personal egoism , no personality and no character . He serves the role of “ sit down and stand up “ staying home guy and doing the house work so as the girl he shares the life with fucks , parties , enjoying the most possible her age and desires she has . If men who accept all these exist ( which as it seems we have the example ) , we should rename him to “ Santo Alberto “‘as he seems that whatever Martina does , right or wrong , as long as he knows it and Martina shares , doesn’t seem to bother him . From where I come from , if you really love and have feelings for someone , it can’t be that you aren’t bothered , you don’t punch the hand on the table and show your annoyance of things that repeatedly bother you . If you bend always and you accept all either because you don’t have another choice or you believe you can’t find another one like Martina or you are satisfied with the current way of life without seem caring for the future , then what can I say ? Martina is with a guy who has no clue about the future when she is active and thinks a lot about it and Alberto is with a woman who can easily destroy the life of a married couple because she can’t control her passion and lust . These are all for me small smokes , reasons that one day a big fire can begin and lead to a domino of unfortunate events . Life is fair , it always gives back the way you behave to it . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenniferMom Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 2 hours ago, ddhm said: It is simply total disrespect and absolutely ridiculous that alcohol or whatever passion , love , I don’t know what else there is , both these women ignore Bogdan .. life gives back what you do and there will come the time that they both “suffer “ much from their current ongoing situation . It is Barcelona and not a village that you haven’t a choice so you meet always the same people . If for both girls to satisfy their sexual needs and declare their love they go this way , why don’t they quit anything they do , abandon all , leave their guys and live happily ever after ? Why they torture themselves and for sure hurting people who truly love them ? Nelly keeps on cheating her husband in the name of what ? And Martina keeps on satisfying her lesbian side with a married woman that her husband has been treating her with respect .. at the same time , she seems not giving a shit to Alberto who is just ( sorry to say ) a guy without any personal egoism , no personality and no character . He serves the role of “ sit down and stand up “ staying home guy and doing the house work so as the girl he shares the life with fucks , parties , enjoying the most possible her age and desires she has . If men who accept all these exist ( which as it seems we have the example ) , we should rename him to “ Santo Alberto “‘as he seems that whatever Martina does , right or wrong , as long as he knows it and Martina shares , doesn’t seem to bother him . From where I come from , if you really love and have feelings for someone , it can’t be that you aren’t bothered , you don’t punch the hand on the table and show your annoyance of things that repeatedly bother you . If you bend always and you accept all either because you don’t have another choice or you believe you can’t find another one like Martina or you are satisfied with the current way of life without seem caring for the future , then what can I say ? Martina is with a guy who has no clue about the future when she is active and thinks a lot about it and Alberto is with a woman who can easily destroy the life of a married couple because she can’t control her passion and lust . We always come back to the same core theories. To me, the real crime here is the damage to Bogdan and Nelly's marriage. This is on Nelly. Bogdan should walk away. Not only does Nelly not respect him, she has a boatload of other issues and she does not seem to be able to help herself. Always remember you need to love yourself before you can love someone else. This marriage is really troubled. Martina has tried to help Nelly by cooling things off; however, Martina ultimately can't and won't deny her feelings for Nelly. Everyone can say whatever they want about Alberto ... and it ranges here from a total deadbeat to Saint Alberto ... but in my mind ... this was never more than a FRIENDS WITH BENEFITS relationship. These two might have fucked as friends for awhile and then the RLC opportunity came up and they thought "why not?". You just do not see the LOVE between these two. Lots of affection yes ... it is a very comfortable and affectionate relationship ... but it is not a loving relationship. Here's a test ... I challenge anyone to tell me that the sex between Martina and Alberto is anything more than any of the sex we see in Masha's apartment. It is just sex. DD suggests Nelly and Martina should just declare their love and be together. I think this *could* happen but I think Martina is smart enough to not want to get involved in Nelly's behavioral issues. Bottom line here is that everyone loves Martina ... she is the RLC gold standard. Only thing I ask Martina, if you are reading this, if it is inevitable to be with Nelly, please do it on cam for your loyal fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yelt Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 On 1/8/2022 at 1:08 PM, moos54 said: Difficult to prove something that only exists in your head 🤣 No..it is Martina’s head and the big guy has also slipped and mentioned the name “Michael”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StnCld316 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 4 hours ago, ddhm said: Alberto is with a woman who can easily destroy the life of a married couple because she can’t control her passion and lust . ROTFLMFAO! Nelly doesn't need Martina's help to destroy her Relationship with Bogdan. She's doing of good job at wrecking it all by herself. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tle Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 40 minutes ago, JenniferMom said: Everyone can say whatever they want about Alberto ... and it ranges here from a total deadbeat to Saint Alberto ... but in my mind ... this was never more than a FRIENDS WITH BENEFITS relationship. These two might have fucked as friends for awhile and then the RLC opportunity came up and they thought "why not?". You just do not see the LOVE between these two. Lots of affection yes ... it is a very comfortable and affectionate relationship ... but it is not a loving relationship. Here's a test ... I challenge anyone to tell me that the sex between Martina and Alberto is anything more than any of the sex we see in Masha's apartment. It is just sex. What would be the sign of love that you would expect to see between these two that you're not seeing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tle Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 54 minutes ago, JenniferMom said: You just do not see the LOVE between these two. Lots of affection yes ... it is a very comfortable and affectionate relationship ... but it is not a loving relationship. Here's a test ... I challenge anyone to tell me that the sex between Martina and Alberto is anything more than any of the sex we see in Masha's apartment. It is just sex. These two both seem to enjoy the sex they have with each other... and they've been having that sex together and enjoying it for many years now... You don't see that with Masha and you don't see that with most couples that have been together for years.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moos54 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, yelt said: No..it is Martina’s head and the big guy has also slipped and mentioned the name “Michael”. yeah, it was only a joke from Martina, you could understand that if you understand spanish 🤣 it's called having humor while making fun of anyone who makes up things about her because yes Martina reads from time to time what people say about her on the forum Edited January 10, 2022 by moos54 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yelt Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, moos54 said: yeah, it was only a joke from Martina, you could understand that if you understand spanish 🤣 it's called having humor while making fun of anyone who makes up things about her because yes Martina reads from time to time what people say about her on the forum Thank you. There was another time Michael's name was mentioned. On 122121, I was not provided the time, it was later in the evening: Martina and Alberto were having what I am told to be a serious conversation in there bedroom between them. Can you share the context of that conversation in which Michael was used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moos54 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, yelt said: Thank you. There was another time Michael's name was mentioned. On 122121, I was not provided the time, it was later in the evening: Martina and Alberto were having what I am told to be a serious conversation in there bedroom between them. Can you share the context of that conversation in which Michael was used? it's exactly the same thing, they talk openly about this famous michael who does not exist and they wonder why people invent a life for them that does not exist fortunately Alberto has his feet on the ground and he does not listen to the inventions of the members of the forum, because nonetheless this could have a harmful effect on their life as a couple if he took everything that is said to be true on the forum Someone should look in the mirror before saying anything because it could have consequences We are not yet at this level but recently a French YouTuber committed suicide following slander on the internet about her because she could no longer support the lies about her, she had 4 children I find it very dangerous to let everything and anything be said on the internet because I don't think it was created for that Just because you're sitting behind a screen doesn't mean you have all the rights some should think about the consequences of their lies ... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JenniferMom Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 2 hours ago, tle said: What would be the sign of love that you would expect to see between these two that you're nfrom seeing? They would do more things together; their lovemaking would be passionate not mechanical with lots of afterglow; Alberto would not tolerate and accept the Nelly situation; they would cuddle more often, she would not be out all night as if she is Alberto’s roommate not his lover, the sex would not seem like quid pro quo for going out all night. What evidence is there that she is crazy about him? Does she ever worship his cock like Fiora does to vamp? Of course Alberto knows he has the ultimate girlfriend but what does he do to deserve that? Of course I could be wrong but my belief is theirs is a relationship of convenience. Again I adore them both and don’t mean to be negative … but supporting my case that this is FRIENDS WITH BENEFITS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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