Martina & Alberto - 2023 #11

[cupid30]

3 hours ago, dougiestyle4u said:

Sometimes I wonder if pulo is Leora & Paul's next door neighbor.

His obsession with her is a cause for great concern!

[1962Starfire]

2 hours ago, JenniferMom said:

I feel stronger than ever that these two were just close friends who fuck for money.  If Martina is troubled, it is due to being worried about her family, being worried if she will have enough money to pay the rent in her new off-cam life, and being worried that her new lover may be too into her, which as we saw with Nelly, she may struggle with commitment. 
 

She is not worried that the love of her life Alberto is drifting away.  They fucked once since Juliet arrived and I contend they will fuck again before she departs.

I know that has always been your sentiment for M&A, JenMom, and it may very well be true. Maybe if I had followed them from the beginning, I would also think along those lines.  But one of my reservations about that point is that Martina was so young at the time. Some have said they have been together 10 years or more. It's true that European women were always miles ahead of American women when it came to sex but I just can't see the two of them deciding at such a young age to be just fuck buddies and then get paid for it when RLC came along. Or maybe RLC was just going to be a temporary lark for them since they were together anyway. Who knows?

I'm sure all the things you mentioned are truly troubling Martina, as they would with anyone faced with those issues. But I do believe Alberto weighs heavily on her mind also. I mean, logically, there had to be an emotional bond there to stay together with him for so long and it still appears to be there at times. I find it also curious that there is no evidence of Alberto having other women before their troubles started. It says, to me, that he really loved Martina, maybe more than what she felt for him because she was so young, in the beginning. In addition, at present, I think she is struggling with same sex/opposite sex emotions. Maybe more so than commitment. Just my speculation based on logic and nothing else.

Personally, I think she has a nice bundle stashed away and she is only staying on RLC to help Alberto through his (apparent) financial problem. And (again apparently) she is paying to keep her new apt/room, paying for school and helping family and (apparently) Alberto. I doubt if her job and the RLC euros are covering all of that.

I don't think we'll ever know what the whole true story is but I, for one, will miss this couple when (and if!) they leave. They are so different than the other RLC participants and seem like a couple I would like as my next door neighbors........lol.

[JYBRD]

3 hours ago, ddhm said:

About M&A , it is all again according to what has been posted from people who know , regarding their moves that we ( AREN’T ) seeing so far . It is an ongoing talk that one of them or both move out , but they are still in the apartment . I would guess then that if they were FINE financially and ready for the next move in their  lives away of the cameras , they would be out YESTERDAY and not waiting for the time and moment to come. Their departure from RLC is being commented daily alongside their decisions regarding private life issues  , seeing them still with RLC then , I would guess that it is ALL about the money . I don’t know if it should be judged as speculation or a “ material “ fact that we simply get the chance to watch and make our conclusion and form our opinion. 

Sí, sospito que els diners hi tenen molt a veure, però potser també ho fan els contractes que han signat.

[JenniferMom]

3 hours ago, 1962Starfire said:

I'm sure all the things you mentioned are truly troubling Martina, as they would with anyone faced with those issues. But I do believe Alberto weighs heavily on her mind also. I mean, logically, there had to be an emotional bond there to stay together with him for so long and it still appears to be there at times. I find it also curious that there is no evidence of Alberto having other women before their troubles started. It says, to me, that he really loved Martina, maybe more than what she felt for him because she was so young, in the beginning. In addition, at present, I think she is struggling with same sex/opposite sex emotions. Maybe more so than commitment. Just my speculation based on logic and nothing else.

All of these points are excellent and could play a factor here more than I am considering.  I do agree Alberto was more into Martina than she ever was into him.

[JenniferMom]

6 hours ago, StnCld316 said:

It's impossible to read everything posted. We do our best to get most of it, so some things rely on reports been made.

Totally agree.  My point is the rule is not easily enforceable so perhaps it shouldn’t be a rule.  If it can’t be enforced uniformly, the mods come off as being arbitrary and capricious.

You guys all do a pretty good job keeping everything civil here.  I don’t mean to sound disrespectful.  It just seems to me that if these people are going to expose everything like they do … speculations on what they do outside of the cams seems to be a reasonably ok thing to talk about here.

[MountainSwede]

In my mind, all the discussions, fights, phone calls and verbal interactions that happen in the apartment are fair game.  If they relate to activities outside the apartment or lives outside the apartment, they are fair game for the forum to discuss and comment on.  The BIG problem with this is that most of us don't speak the language and are dependent on a couple of generous translators to keep us on track with a synopsis of what transpired and how they relate to what we actually see on RLC.  CAMCAPS is my only way of knowing this.  Lacking this information is like watching Alberto's comic soap operas, right there with him in the living room, and not understanding.

[kylian13579]

do you think martina and alberto are getting back together

[Adalbert]

2 hours ago, MountainSwede said:

In my mind, all the discussions, fights, phone calls and verbal interactions that happen in the apartment are fair game.  If they relate to activities outside the apartment or lives outside the apartment, they are fair game for the forum to discuss and comment on.  The BIG problem with this is that most of us don't speak the language and are dependent on a couple of generous translators to keep us on track with a synopsis of what transpired and how they relate to what we actually see on RLC.  CAMCAPS is my only way of knowing this.  Lacking this information is like watching Alberto's comic soap operas, right there with him in the living room, and not understanding.

 

If we understood everything, some people here would be almost unhapy and have nothing to post because speculation would no longer make sense...😄 It's also never too late to learn a new language if you're motivated...☺️

[Adalbert]

4 minutes ago, kylian13579 said:

do you think martina and alberto are getting back together

Clear no from my side !

[MountainSwede]

32 minutes ago, Adalbert said:

 

If we understood everything, some people here would be almost unhapy and have nothing to post because speculation would no longer make sense...😄 It's also never too late to learn a new language if you're motivated...☺️

Using Duolingo for German right now. . . so my plate is full!

[StnCld316]

10 hours ago, JenniferMom said:

Totally agree.  My point is the rule is not easily enforceable so perhaps it shouldn’t be a rule.  If it can’t be enforced uniformly, the mods come off as being arbitrary and capricious.

You guys all do a pretty good job keeping everything civil here.  I don’t mean to sound disrespectful.  It just seems to me that if these people are going to expose everything like they do … speculations on what they do outside of the cams seems to be a reasonably ok thing to talk about here.

 

6 hours ago, MountainSwede said:

In my mind, all the discussions, fights, phone calls and verbal interactions that happen in the apartment are fair game.  If they relate to activities outside the apartment or lives outside the apartment, they are fair game for the forum to discuss and comment on.  The BIG problem with this is that most of us don't speak the language and are dependent on a couple of generous translators to keep us on track with a synopsis of what transpired and how they relate to what we actually see on RLC.  CAMCAPS is my only way of knowing this.  Lacking this information is like watching Alberto's comic soap operas, right there with him in the living room, and not understanding.

 

 

How am I supposed to know how the information was obtained the poster never stated how they obtained the info. They just post away at free will.   

If they're going to post such information at least make a note at the start of the post the information obtained was within the apartment walls and translated. Otherwise I have to take the post as such coming through other sources and delete it.

I am not a mind reader.   

[MountainSwede]

7 hours ago, StnCld316 said:

 

 

How am I supposed to know how the information was obtained the poster never stated how they obtained the info. They just post away at free will.   

If they're going to post such information at least make a note at the start of the post the information obtained was within the apartment walls and translated. Otherwise I have to take the post as such coming through other sources and delete it.

I think that is a reasonable request.  We always seem to get a sh*tload of speculation.  However if the poster clearly states that the post is a translation of personal conversations in person or on a phone it should be allowed.  Thanks for the clarification!