Trump Will be Impeached

[Thestarider]

22 minutes ago, itsme said:

It's over, con man Trump is done. Choen admits to working with Trump to silence two women to influence the 2016 election, the cherry on top is that Manifort was convicted of 8 out of 18 charges against him with a mistrial declared on 10 other counts.  

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trumps-longtime-lawyer-michael-cohen-is-in-plea-discussions-with-federal-prosecutors-according-to-a-person-familiar-with-the-matter/2018/08/21/5fbd7f34-8510-11e8-8553-a3ce89036c78_story.html?utm_term=.badb24b51478

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/manafort-jury-suggests-it-cannot-come-to-a-consensus-on-a-single-count/2018/08/21/a2478ac0-a559-11e8-a656-943eefab5daf_story.html?utm_term=.1375febf47bd

 

I think you need to get out of fantasy land, Manafort guilty verdicts for tax fraud, and Bank Fraud, and Misrepresentation of foreign government in 2006 !!!! Choen plead guilty to save his ass for his own tax fraud, and let me ask you question? How can it be campaign violations if President Trump paid for these out his own company ? Whether it was hush money or not, how is it campaign violation?

Most important, how is this Russian collusion, or obstruction of justice, or tampering with The US presidential election, pertaining to the Russian involvement in the election? 

The Clinton campaign better get ready, because a second special counsel soon coming,  to get after the real Russian collusion, already fired how many, 5 or 6 from the intelligence agencies involved with the real Russian collusion, and real obstruction of justice? 

The American People Demand the truth, all of truth, not just a one sided truth, from the Mueller Investigation that has gone completely of track for what is convened for. The cover up much larger than Watergate will soon be revealed to all. 

LETS DRAIN THE SWAMP !

[itsme]

37 minutes ago, Thestarider said:

I think you need to get out of fantasy land, Manafort guilty verdicts for tax fraud, and Bank Fraud, and Misrepresentation of foreign government in 2006 !!!! Choen plead guilty to save his ass for his own tax fraud, and let me ask you question? How can it be campaign violations if President Trump paid for these out his own company ? Whether it was hush money or not, how is it campaign violation?

Most important, how is this Russian collusion, or obstruction of justice, or tampering with The US presidential election, pertaining to the Russian involvement in the election? 

The Clinton campaign better get ready, because a second special counsel soon coming,  to get after the real Russian collusion, already fired how many, 5 or 6 from the intelligence agencies involved with the real Russian collusion, and real obstruction of justice? 

The American People Demand the truth, all of truth, not just a one sided truth, from the Mueller Investigation that has gone completely of track for what is convened for. The cover up much larger than Watergate will soon be revealed to all. 

LETS DRAIN THE SWAMP !

1. Because there are limits to campaign contributions, also they can't be done in secret which is the big gotcha. 

2. This is part of the investigation, it is all covered under the special counsels duties. I know right wingers hate it, but it is a FACT not an "Alternative fact". Mueller has every right and the duty to investigate this. 

 “any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump,” as well as “any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation.” - https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mueller-investigation-trump-russia-probe_us_5b4cdda5e4b0e7c958fe3141

3. Why are you still worried about Clinton? That's old news. The only people who still care about Clinton are right wingers trying to minimize Trump's crimes by pointing the finger. Not to mention that Clinton was cleared by the FBI and has never been charged with anything despite being investigated numerous times. I find it particularly curious that right wingers believe these insane conspiracy theories about Clinton without question, but completely overlook the pile of growing evidence against Trump. 

4. Yes, we do demand the truth. We want to see Trump's Tax Returns, we want to know why he surrounds himself with criminals, we want to know why he lies an average of twice per day, we want to know about the money that the Trump organization got from Russian Oligarchs, we want to know why Trump threw U.S. intelligence agencies under the bus in front of the world while complementing Putin, etc. Trump has not been transparent about anything.  

5. Trump had done nothing but dirty the swamp by appointing people to positions that seek to destroy the very agencies that they are supposed to protect and represent.   

6. Trump is con man plain and simple. Cohen has now directly implicated Trump in the commission of a felony. We don't even know what all Mueller has on Trump but I am sure that it will be a very sad day for the right when he releases his findings. You should just cut your losses, admit you made a mistake, and find a better candidate to support. 

[Thestarider]

5 minutes ago, itsme said:

1. Because there are limits to campaign contributions, also they can't be done in secret which is the big gotcha. 

2. This is part of the investigation, it is all covered under the special investors duties. I know right wingers hate it, but it is a FACT not an "Alternative fact". Mueller has every right and the duty to investigate this. 

"Rosenstein’s memo tasked Mueller with investigating “any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump,” as well as “any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation.” - https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mueller-investigation-trump-russia-probe_us_5b4cdda5e4b0e7c958fe3141

3. Why are you still worried about Clinton? That's old news. The only people who still care about Clinton are right wingers trying to minimize Trump's crimes by pointing a finger. Not to mention that Clinton was cleared by the FBI and has never been charged with anything despite being investigated numerous times. 

4. Yes, we do demand the truth. We want to see Trump's Tax Returns, we want to know why he surrounds himself with felons, we want to know why he lies an average of twice per day, we want to know about the money that the Trump organization got from Russian Oligarchs, we want to know why Trump threw U.S. intelligence agencies under the bus in front of the world while complementing Putin, etc. Trump has not been transparent about anything.  

5. Trump had done nothing but dirty the swamp by appointing people to positions that seek to destroy the very agencies that they are supposed to protect and represent.   

6. Trump is con man plain and simple. Cohen has not directly implicated Trump in the commission of a felony. We don't even know what all Mueller has on Trump but I am sure that it will be a very sad day for the right when he releases his findings. You should just cut your losses, admit you made a mistake, and find a better candidate to support. 

Trump is no angel by any means, but the country is far better off now, than it was 18 months ago with silver tongued devil as the president.

 I notice that you don't even mention that another beautiful young girl, was abducted in Iowa by another Illegal alien, stalked, and killed in cold blood. Far more important than couple of paid off hookers, wouldn't you say ?

Clinton and her campaign, and the Obama administration have covered up so much, and she was cleared by the fired group of liars, and leakers from the corrupt FBI, let alone so many more from high ranking positions in the Obama administration. No, the real collusion investigation is abut to get started, If Mueller wont do what he was directed to do by your own statements above from Rosenstein's directive , then a second fair and impartial second counsel is most defiantly required, to get the real fair and impartial truth, not the covered up one sided truth. We want to know what really happened in both campaigns, not just one from the GOP, Isn't that fair ? Or in your words, you say she has already been cleared, but each week we find out more about the cover up of the real Russian collusion. 

 

[itsme]

1. By what metric are we better off? The economy was already doing well thanks to Obama. Most people would agree that a president's policies don't actually start affecting the economy until the latter half of their presidency. The tax cut was a terrible idea, it's like a variable rate mortgage that starts off with a low interest rate and increases over time until it's un-affordable.  This tax cut is great for boomers and those nearing retirement, but it saddles younger generations with even more debt. Tariffs protect a small amount of industries while raising prices for anyone who buys their products or uses their raw materials. Unemployment is down but it was going down anyway. He's also managed to piss off most of our allies while at the same time praising dictators, murderers, and criminals. 

2. No president is going to stop illegal immigration altogether and using the worst examples of a group of people to judge the entire group is never fair or accurate. If the U.S. was only known by the worst things that we have done, then we wouldn't be the leader on the international stage. If you're really that concerned about stopping the deaths of young people you should be advocating for better gun laws. Immigrants aren't the problem, but the growing income disparity is. 

3. That's all just conspiracy nonsense from the right wing media, and even if a fraction of it were true who gives a shit? Hillary isn't president. If she broke the law then throw her in prison I don't care,  but that in no way detracts from what Trump has done. 

[Thestarider]

I didn't think you bought into conspiracy theories ? I don't, but I do believe in the facts, and there has been a lot of disgrace in the Intelligent agencies over the last couple years that is coming to light.

I will break it down and try my best to let you see how I view things now versus the previous administration.

Granted I am empty nested and almost 60 yrs old.

1. By what metric are we better off?

a. Nato is now finally after years spending more money on defense, Niki Haley represented the US very strongly at the United Nations. North Korea, needs no elaboration if your honest with what has transpired with Mike Pompeo at the lead as Secretary of State. China's economy is sliding fast from the tariffs, with their Markets down nearly 30%. Mexico is coming to the table and soon new fairer trade, the EU has already came begging to negotiate new trade deals.  Recognized Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel as so many Presidents before promised. Recognized Taiwan as a democratic republic and promised to defend them against the Chinese aggression. Isis is almost non existent from the head chopping off times of President Obama. Bailed out of the stupidest Paris Climate Accord which the US would be funding the largest part and have the toughest goals to meet. Got out the billion dollar debacle called the Iran nuclear accord. Didn't bail out on the red line drawn in the sand like Obama did in Syria. Currently there is much greater stability in Afghanistan, and Iraq. Increased sanctions against those who sponsor terrorism such as North Korea, Iran, and of course on Russia. This sums it all up if you would like to take the time and read it: https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Donald_Trump_achievements:_Foreign_policy

b. Personally, the tax cut put about $ 285 more a month in my payroll deposits, or $3040 annually, and under the new IRS tax forms for the tax year 2018, I will actually benefit from the short form which allows my standard deduction for head of household at $18000 which is about $3000 more than last years itemized deductions. The crumbs for me at an annual income of $88000 amounts to about $6000, which I can now invest in my retirement, which is up btw by 43% since the President Trump took office. My health insurance premium has not risen the past 2 years, and before that it rose every year that President Obama was our president. The people of the Midwest are again taking a great deal of pride in this great country after feeling like they were completely forgotten during the President Obama administration.

c. Simple actually but very true "PEACE through Strength" My son is currently deployed in the mediterranean sea, he can tell you point blank first hand, the difference in the Unites States Military since President Trump took office. BTW he re-enlisted, but was ready to join the ranks of civilian life if the election would have went the other way. Veterans are far better off and respected again for their service to this great country.

d. I live in town that demographics have completely changed over the past 3 decades due to illegal immigration and a Yemen and Somalia mass influx of refugees because they can get jobs in the meat packing industry, currently the school system is about 80% Hispanic. The town of 25000 is about 65% Hispanic. The IRS once contacted us and asked if we had Jorge Luis Carmona with social security# *********, they were wondering because that # had paid income tax is 7 states, and they wanted to know where to send the refund to.

My point being, if you don't live with Illegal immigration, you don't experience it in everyday life, if you haven't seen your crime rate triple, If you don't stand behind the immigrants and refugees in the grocery store and watch them pay for their food with food stamps, then get into a brand new $50000 dollar vehicle in the parking lot. If your son that was looking for a job in a grocery store, or fast food joint, in high school could not get a job because he wasn't bi-lingual, even though he was a National Honor Society student with 3.5 GPA. How is it even possible for you to understand how I feel about immigration reforms and stronger boarders. 

e. Why do you show so much disrespect for our President ? History shows that the greatest of Presidents, were not always very well liked and pissed off a lot of people, all while they went about building this country in to a great nation. From Washington, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, FDR, Truman, I Like IKE, JFK,  and Reagan, they all accomplished great things for both the US and the world, they were pretty good at pissing people off when they needed to. Einstein was right, for every action, there is a reaction. Think about it.

I am tired and need to go to bed, I can if you wish complete this long post tomorrow 🙂

 

 

[Alladino]

[ipiratemedia]

5 hours ago, itsme said:

The economy was already doing well thanks to Obama.

LMAO! Reality Check...He will be labeled, as the worst President over Jimmy cotton candy Carter. Watch and listen to Obama's rhetoric. Also a short Video I put together on Trumps, greatest motivational speech ever giving in Congress. Even the Democrat show him respect. (versa versa) Oh, by the way, as I told you once before, I can't argue or debate with an avatar of a Guy Fawkes Mask...QANON...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RTnAAW3eeisoQw0j3CLaeCMDmMRk9uZC/view?usp=sharing

[britmatt1]

Trump will never be impeached.

[StnCld316]

1 hour ago, britmatt1 said:

Trump will never be impeached.

I wouldn't say never.  There's always a First for everything.

Now since Michael Cohen has implicated Donald Trump.  Trump now has a heck of a lot of explaining to do.

Trump's Twitter Feed should be a good laugh today.  

[StnCld316]

2 hours ago, Alladino said:

The way things are looking now.  Impeachment just may be a possibility.

Another Nail went into the Trump Coffin yesterday.

[britmatt1]

39 minutes ago, StnCld316 said:

I wouldn't say never.  There's always a First for everything.

Now since Michael Cohen has implicated Donald Trump.  Trump now has a heck of a lot of explaining to do.

Trump's Twitter Feed should be a good laugh today.  

Cohen has nothing. Stop listening to liberal media so much. They jump on everything and it ends up being nothing.

[Ridgerunner]

2 hours ago, StnCld316 said:

The way things are looking now.  Impeachment just may be a possibility.

Another Nail went into the Trump Coffin yesterday.

No,another nail went into the coffin of the U.S.Constitution and the U.S.legal system.If Trump is impeached the U.S. will have become a banana republic where elections no longer matter. I thought Mueller was investigating Russian collusion in the 2016 election. But now Trump is to be impeached for making a legal payment to a porn actress for her signature on a non-disclosure agreement? Cohen plead guilty to something that was not even a crime(payment to Stormy Daniels) just to give prosecutors what they wanted in order to receive lenience for other personal business crimes that he had committed. This truly is a witch hunt.The swamp wants to use a corrupt legal process to take out Trump because they know they cannot defeat him in an election.