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I don’t care to have this argument again. I await groomy’s response. It’s already been made perfectly clear to all that there is no issue whatsoever if indeed this type of thing is happening. There is no need to defend the good name of VH in this regard. It’s already a confirmed acceptable practice per many of the subscribers here. The people who condemn it quickly get put in their place and are reminded that we watch for the sex and to suggest that the site should be about voyeurism gets you reminded that voyeurism is boring therefore, anything that yields sex must be good. Also, the tenants themselves make their deal with the manager. So, you see, it’s an argument I don’t care to have.

I am curious to know from groomy, just how prevalent he thinks it is though. Groomy, is it safe to say that a large majority of the guests are getting something in return for their appearance. An appearance that results in a sexual encounter on cam or are they just friends doing it for the sake of a good time? 

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9 minutes ago, Amy3 said:

I don’t care to have this argument again. I await groomy’s response. It’s already been made perfectly clear to all that there is no issue whatsoever if indeed this type of thing is happening. There is no need to defend the good name of VH in this regard. It’s already a confirmed acceptable practice per many of the subscribers here. The people who condemn it quickly get put in their place and are reminded that we watch for the sex and to suggest that the site should be about voyeurism gets you reminded that voyeurism is boring therefore, anything that yields sex must be good. Also, the tenants themselves make their deal with the manager. So, you see, it’s an argument I don’t care to have.

I am curious to know from groomy, just how prevalent he thinks it is though. Groomy, is it safe to say that a large majority of the guests are getting something in return for their appearance. An appearance that results in a sexual encounter on cam or are they just friends doing it for the sake of a good time? 

About what?

The only question is possibilities. They have the opportunity to bring people into the apartment. They need to concentrate on this. Whitney & Gerard - are not competitive like a couple. But if they continue to invite guests - everyone will be happy.

Under get something - apartment, maybe food and drink. As far as I understand, they do not have much active money yet. They just have contacts - with different young people. Not only in Russia/Ukraine - there is an active problem when guy/girl have desire to arrange fucking marathon. But there is no empty apartment. Without parents, friends and other people.

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Hmmm, ok! So, you’re telling me that guests are having sex on cam for nothing more then a food, drinks and a good time? 

I’m talking in general across the whole site, not just this apt. If you don’t know, please say so. 

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8 minutes ago, Amy3 said:

Hmmm, ok! So, you’re telling me that guests are having sex on cam for nothing more then a food, drinks and a good time? 

I’m talking in general across the whole site, not just this apt. If you don’t know, please say so. 

 

The last couple. Jerar knew that guy. They just decided sex marathon, but they did not have place (they live with parents). And they reacted positively to the cameras. Good experience. They joked about opening achievement - filming in porn.:biggrin:

About the others in different ways. Anastasia - for example, just dating now. Swing couples - invite prospective partners (dating in Internet).

 

I understand the subtext - pay money to guests? I think in general, no. Search for couple is on financial basis - with the condition of sex on the camera. It is not profitable. A guest (looking for sponsor) will ask too much. Proceeding from the shooting. Of the risks - that material go to open Internet (social networks, disclosure of personality, etc.).

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13 minutes ago, groomy said:

 

The last couple. Jerar knew that guy. They just decided sex marathon, but they did not have place (they live with parents). And they reacted positively to the cameras. Good experience. They joked about opening achievement - filming in porn.:biggrin:

About the others in different ways. Anastasia - for example, just dating now. Swing couples - invite prospective partners (dating in Internet).

 

I understand the subtext - pay money to guests? I think in general, no. Search for couple is on financial basis - with the condition of sex on the camera. It is not profitable. A guest (looking for sponsor) will ask too much. Proceeding from the shooting. Of the risks - that material go to open Internet (social networks, disclosure of personality, etc.).

Thanks for clarifying my friend.

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11 minutes ago, groomy said:

 

The last couple. Jerar knew that guy. They just decided sex marathon, but they did not have place (they live with parents). And they reacted positively to the cameras. Good experience. They joked about opening achievement - filming in porn.:biggrin:

About the others in different ways. Anastasia - for example, just dating now. Swing couples - invite prospective partners (dating in Internet).

 

I understand the subtext - pay money to guests? I think in general, no. Search for couple is on financial basis - with the condition of sex on the camera. It is not profitable. A guest (looking for sponsor) will ask too much. Proceeding from the shooting. Of the risks - that material go to open Internet (social networks, disclosure of personality, etc.).

I get you. I would think that it would be very challenging to get people to have sexual on cam for really nothing, but I’m sure that happens and I’ll accept your input on that, even if I think you’re treading lightly. I do have to wonder if things will stay so clean as things progress and the demands for more are required to achieve the goal. Will be something to keep tabs on. As always, there has to be a degree of trust that VH is providing oversight and guidance in these matters. Have a great day groomy!

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This things of guests and them being payed..no doubth happens in VH..just like happens in Rlc and others camsites,of course people won't apear and do things on cams(specialy sex)Just for free..maybe someone that it's extremely voyeur and want to bee on cams,but a lot receive something to apear,for exemple In other cam site the couple resident it's vacations and other couple it's in their place,obvious they get some payment.Honestly don't see nothing bad in it,probarby a lot the friends,family of this residents don't want to be on cams,so to make things more interesting,relevant they give some payment.Personaly I like both things,the friends visits and the payed visitors.Fine with that.But..no doubth the most important part of any house are the residents themselfs..if they aren't apealing etc..then not even thousands of guests will resolve that.Well unless you are good friends of managers..in that case you can be very desistiring and just don't move an finger most of time.

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11 minutes ago, ze81 said:

This things of guests and them being payed..no doubth happens in VH..just like happens in Rlc and others camsites,of course people won't apear and do things on cams(specialy sex)Just for free..maybe someone that it's extremely voyeur and want to bee on cams,but a lot receive something to apear,for exemple In other cam site the couple resident it's vacations and other couple it's in their place,obvious they get some payment.Honestly don't see nothing bad in it,probarby a lot the friends,family of this residents don't want to be on cams,so to make things more interesting,relevant they give some payment.Personaly I like both things,the friends visits and the payed visitors.Fine with that.But..no doubth the most important part of any house are the residents themselfs..if they aren't apealing etc..then not even thousands of guests will resolve that.Well unless you are good friends of managers..in that case you can be very desistiring and just don't move an finger most of time.

Good comment! The issue for me is one of safety and integrity first, of course, but as a voyeur watching a voyeur site, the main issue is that if guests are being paid to perform sex acts then it undercuts another aspect of what voyeurism is all about. It’s another way that VH is progressing into a staged, live sex site. It’s ok. I’m not trying to stop it or anything like that. I’m just trying to understand where the boundaries are and how VH is reacting to these kinds of things. 

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22 minutes ago, Amy3 said:

Good comment! The issue for me is one of safety and integrity first, of course, but as a voyeur watching a voyeur site, the main issue is that if guests are being paid to perform sex acts then it undercuts another aspect of what voyeurism is all about. It’s another way that VH is progressing into a staged, live sex site. It’s ok. I’m not trying to stop it or anything like that. I’m just trying to understand where the boundaries are and how VH is reacting to these kinds of things. 

At the risk of being argumentative lol do most punters really care? As long as they are happy with what they are seeing, how it got there or who has what is irrelevent really. After all watched ones stay and unwatched ones go in time just down to supply and demand.

Whether it is right in the context of voyeurism is another discussion entirely.

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10 minutes ago, Robwin said:

At the risk of being argumentative lol do most punters really care? As long as they are happy with what they are seeing, how it got there or who has what is irrelevent really. After all watched ones stay and unwatched ones go in time just down to supply and demand.

Whether it is right in the context of voyeurism is another discussion entirely.

No, most people don’t care and that’s ok. It’s a forum about a voyeur site and it interests me and perhaps others here. I never force anyone to read my comments. 😊

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2 hours ago, groomy said:

 

The last couple. Jerar knew that guy. They just decided sex marathon, but they did not have place (they live with parents). And they reacted positively to the cameras. Good experience. They joked about opening achievement - filming in porn.:biggrin:

About the others in different ways. Anastasia - for example, just dating now. Swing couples - invite prospective partners (dating in Internet).

 

I understand the subtext - pay money to guests? I think in general, no. Search for couple is on financial basis - with the condition of sex on the camera. It is not profitable. A guest (looking for sponsor) will ask too much. Proceeding from the shooting. Of the risks - that material go to open Internet (social networks, disclosure of personality, etc.).

Presumably if guests were being paid it would be by the tenants so I think it would be unlikely that unless it was an epic event that the tenants would gain much financially from it?

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