Voyeur-House.TV (2019) Part #1

[Vicky1132]

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[groomy]

4 hours ago, KirbyFCF2 said:

RLC took down all their Russian apartments.  Will VH be next?

No. RLC have top-rated apartments in EU. Knockdown - but not knockout. VH - easier to close site and leave. Having an empty porn studio in Colombia, bad webcam studio in Spain. Marla&Hector, Nicole, Ary - won't make enough money. Moreover, no one will extend membership with such  set of apartments (unlike RLC with Barca). VH simply won't have time to rebuild. The RLC have it.

But I do not understand the reason - why Russian apartments turned off now? No new laws. No new provider lockouts. Cheburnet not yet awakened. The situation is stable as few months ago.

By the way, this is an opportunity for VH. If Russian houses are closed. Can try to open Leora, Nelly and other rating apartments - by getting RLC fanbase as a subscription. But only if RLC decided to close the business in Russia and dismissed employees.

[SierraTM]

il y a 2 minutes, groomy a dit :

No. RLC have top-rated apartments in EU. Knockdown - but not knockout. VH - easier to close site and leave. Having an empty porn studio in Colombia, bad webcam studio in Spain. Marla&Hector, Nicole, Ary - won't make enough money. Moreover, no one will extend membership with such  set of apartments (unlike RLC with Barca). VH simply won't have time to rebuild. The RLC have it.

But I do not understand the reason - why Russian apartments turned off now? No new laws. No new provider lockouts. Cheburnet not yet awakened. The situation is stable as few months ago.

Noldus did post something from Forbes saying Putin passed a law to better "control and regulate" Russian netspace and ultimately cutting off Russia from the WWW if necessary?

But I agree that this is rather sudden.

I believe it is DEFINITELY MORE THAN THAT. I think probably also financially they are anticipating lower revenue and hence need to rework their business plan.

Pulling out so sudden without any notification is always rather fishy. 

[groomy]

2 minutes ago, SierraTM said:

Noldus did post something from Forbes saying Putin passed a law to better "control and regulate" Russian netspace and ultimately cutting off Russia from the WWW if necessary?

But I agree that this is rather sudden.

I believe it is DEFINITELY MORE THAN THAT. I think probably also financially they are anticipating lower revenue and hence need to rework their business plan.

Pulling out so sudden without any notification is always rather fishy.

1 ноября 2019/November 1, 2019 -  and Cheburnet 1 января 2021 года/January 1, 2021.

Yes - there will be control of broadcasting, control of posts. Providers will be forced to show all logs. And etc. However, even then. Closing Internet (by type of Chinese) will be only 2021. And not a fact (there must be grounds: cyber attacks, sanctions, aggravation of the international situation). It will start on November 1, 2019 - if you do not scold Putin, church and the Russian government, then no problem.

[timber]

13 minutes ago, groomy said:

No. RLC have top-rated apartments in EU. Knockdown - but not knockout. VH - easier to close site and leave. Having an empty porn studio in Colombia, bad webcam studio in Spain. Marla&Hector, Nicole, Ary - won't make enough money. Moreover, no one will extend membership with such  set of apartments (unlike RLC with Barca). VH simply won't have time to rebuild. The RLC have it.

But I do not understand the reason - why Russian apartments turned off now? No new laws. No new provider lockouts. Cheburnet not yet awakened. The situation is stable as few months ago.

By the way, this is an opportunity for VH. If Russian houses are closed. Can try to open Leora, Nelly and other rating apartments - by getting RLC fanbase as a subscription. But only if RLC decided to close the business in Russia and dismissed employees.

The way they closed down was a bit weird. First the apartments in Krasnoyarsk (Leora, Maya) went offline. Then about a day later, the Moscow apartments. Then today the St. Petersburg apartments. And they'd taken away a lot of the free cameras a couple of weeks ago, perhaps to try and protect the locations of the apartments? I'd guess it's trouble with the police/government. Hard to think of another reason for them to do it. 

Were the lifeundercam apartments in Russia as well? Perhaps someone has decided to enforce the pornography law against voyeur sites for some reason...

[Noldus]

2 hours ago, groomy said:

1 ноября 2019/November 1, 2019 -  and Cheburnet 1 января 2021 года/January 1, 2021.

Yes - there will be control of broadcasting, control of posts. Providers will be forced to show all logs. And etc. However, even then. Closing Internet (by type of Chinese) will be only 2021. And not a fact (there must be grounds: cyber attacks, sanctions, aggravation of the international situation). It will start on November 1, 2019 - if you do not scold Putin, church and the Russian government, then no problem.

RLC and CC works ok in China 😉 

[ze81]

If is a Russia problem then rlc and even VH Just need to move out from there..and make all stream,houses in Lets Spain,Italy etc.If I had a profitable company that's what i would do instead of closing.

[groomy]

1 hour ago, ze81 said:

If is a Russia problem then rlc and even VH Just need to move out from there..and make all stream,houses in Lets Spain,Italy etc.If I had a profitable company that's what i would do instead of closing.

There is no way.

For such money, only russians/ukrainians are ready to do a lot. This is also true for SpyGazm (although Colombians there are also competitors). And for RLC (even now 5/8 apts with russians/ukrainians).

Europe is guaranteed nothing. VH already have European experience (and now it is). Marla&Hector - for fun. Spygazm refugees - only in webcam mode in apt-prison. Nicole - so-so, but apt-prison too. Russians in EU - not a solution. Remember Nyusha in Budapest. And they actively tried to invite Russian tourists to visit. There was no prison house. But after month, interest fell to zero🙄. Of the current participants in Europe could survive - D&D, Mira&Henry. But the level of frequency of events would be significantly lower than now.

For others it is still worse. Remember Hunter and Piper or current Spain exSpygazm apt.

Perhaps it is worth working with Colombia/Brazil. But for now this is bad. Andrea&Cristian - few porn shooting, few webcam nights, 1 bath and sex (between guy and model). All other time (14 days) - either nothing, or an empty house.

[miscvoyeur]

4 hours ago, groomy said:

By the way, this is an opportunity for VH. If Russian houses are closed. Can try to open Leora, Nelly and other rating apartments - by getting RLC fanbase as a subscription. But only if RLC decided to close the business in Russia and dismissed employees.

Doubt that would work. Most fans of RLC tend to look down on VH as being a trash site and will not want to give subscription to VH. Just look at Nicole and Karl. All of Nicole's fans that swear they're so great don't even want to sub to VH to support them. And even the more popular tenants like Nelly or even Leora will not gain enough interest here on VH to make it, not unless they all became their own managers. 

[StnCld316]

5 minutes ago, miscvoyeur said:

Doubt that would work. Most fans of RLC tend to look down on VH as being a trash site. And even the more popular tenants like Nelly or even Leora will not gain enough interest here on VH.

Nicole went from RLC to VHTV and she's doing quite well.  Still rolling after 6 or 7 Months.

[miscvoyeur]

1 minute ago, StnCld316 said:

Nicole went from RLC to VHTV and she's doing quite well.  Still rolling after 6 or 7 Months.

I had already edited my post. All her RLC fans that supported her don't even take out a VH sub to support them here, which was my original point.

"Doing quite well" there's no way to know how well they are doing from VH, and I would be hard pressed to believe that a couple that barely fucks, has boring sex when they do fuck, and has zero social life makes any sort of substantial money from VH. They are their own managers and both have jobs so they are more well off from their own individual incomes that most people.

[StnCld316]

2 minutes ago, miscvoyeur said:

I had already edited my post. All her RLC fans that supported her don't even take out a VH sub to support them here, which was my original point.

"Doing quite well" there's no way to know how well they are doing from VH, and I would be hard pressed to believe that a couple that barely fucks, has boring sex when they do fuck, and has zero social life makes any sort of substantial money from VH. They are their own managers and both have jobs so they are more well off from their own individual incomes that most people.

I don't know much about the girls or any Tenants as I don't follow anything from Social Media.  They must be doing something right or they wouldn't have been kept around for so long.