ptreta Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, waldi said: There are many other aspects of our lives which we can say about they are intimate, that's first; but what I wanted to say is that the tenants treat it as a job, and vhtv is kind of their employer, no question about that; vhtv created the system which force people to stay in places without any chance to hide from the world; people don't need to join, that's true, but it doesn't change the fact that system is not fair, plus vhtv will always find people who will need to earn a few bucks, mostly in poorer countries, where people could be forced to do it by difficult economic circumstances, for instance; this is why in real life not only workers need to be controlled, but also employers in order to prevent exploitation; from what you say it follows that vhtv can do whatever it wants, which is not true; as an employer vh is allowed to set the rules of course, but those rules at some points are questionable at the moment and need to be changed, and that's the problem my friend; first every business has to set good rules according to fundamental rights, and then they can look for employees. Saying that vhtv can do whatever they want and no one has to join knowing that plenty of people will join anyway, (because in many cases has no better choice), is an acting which would make that business illegal in most civilized countries👍 I give you complete reason. I just saw things from the perspective of my country belonging to the European Union. Labor laws would never allow people to be forced into this situation. There are minimal supports for the person to survive. But I am not naive enough to generalize, when it involves drugs or prostitution, the problem is universal, in some places more visible than in others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptreta Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Dave 27 said: In area's covered by cams the tenants "perform"all and everything you pay to watch so my question is what else can they do in private areas?.Yes they could be doing illegal stuff but do you want to be party to that?.JMO. If they are illegal things, of course I don’t want to participate in it, but if they cannot hide it is a way to dissuade them from doing illegal things, I think it is a positive thing. Rude but positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed2 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 hours ago, waldi said: I absolutely disagree to vhtv policy of covering the whole place with cams; all tenants should get the possibility to have a place in the flats without cams, if they wish to have it, of course; either because of some guests who they want to invite or themselves, it doesn't matter; as I said before, no one on that fucking earth is obliged to show everything, even if we pay or, especially that we pay; I'd even say, that demanding from the tenants to stay at such places for any time is against the law, not to even mention the human rights 👍 I disagree. It is simple enough. If you don't want to be seen doing something, then just don't visit a voyeur project. The part where VHTV is wrong, is in that they view it as a job where they need preform for an employer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, ed2 said: I disagree. It is simple enough. If you don't want to be seen doing something, then just don't visit a voyeur project. The part where VHTV is wrong, is in that they view it as a job where they need prefor for an employer. You can't change it any more; for those people who are already in vhtv it is a job, and in many cases the only source of income unfortunately, so please read my previous post carefully again; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed2 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 5 hours ago, jabbath1987 said: I do not remember who wrote this Diana girl being an exhibitionist. What I saw from her til now she acts like a nun... I don't know about exhibitionist, but she is definitely not shy, and she can be be really wild during parties. She once had sex in the swimming pool in the garden infront of most of most of her flatmates. I've been one of her biggest admirers since her first stay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed2 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, waldi said: You can't change it any more; for those people who are already in vhtv it is a job, and in many cases the only source of income unfortunately, so please read my previous post carefully again; What kind of room is it that you want them to have off-camera then? They do have a second bathroom off-camera, isn't that enough? And right now the main bathroom is still offline too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, ed2 said: They do have a second bathroom off-camera, isn't that enough? And right now the main bathroom is still offline too. Very well; hopefully for the tenants' sake it'll stay like that; if not, they should find another location which would have at least one place without cams set; It's up to the tenants which room they will arrange for that; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parxx Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Jabs will be happy. Some guy fixing the bathroom cam and the cables. So we can finally put to rest those conspiracy theories about who pulls off the plug from the cam 🙂. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 58 minutes ago, Parxx said: Jabs will be happy. Some guy fixing the bathroom cam and the cables. So we can finally put to rest those conspiracy theories about who pulls off the plug from the cam 🙂. Good. Let's hope all will be good now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed2 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Fucking in the sauna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, ed2 said: Fucking in the sauna. is it on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed2 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, jabbath1987 said: is it on? Don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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