DWI Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 7 hours ago, bobknob said: Always looked like FWB to me, with these two. If Alberto is seriously in love, he sure has a strange way of showing it. He refuses to go out socially with her, and the few times that he does go out, he refuses to have a good time. As is reported, they both moved to the big city and Martina expanded her horizons, Alberto did not. Martina is a social heavyweight, Alberto ignoring that doomed the relationship. Martina must resent the fact Alberto is not proud to be in a relationship with her. Getting a job was the bare minimum, they have no relationship outside of that apartment. Being in a relationship with a girl like Martina is a challenge, Alberto was not up to the Challenge. Hi bobknob, You make a great point about Alberto's anti-social behavior. It is a subject often overlooked in the discussion of the eventual decline of the Martina/Alberto relationship. There were many, many RLC parties that Alberto refused to go to over the years. Some would say it was his percieved language barrier but in fact, to me, that's an unacceptible explanation. At these RLC parties there were almost always some Spanish-speaking and English-speaking Russian and Ukrainian participants. These Russians/Ukrainians were people who knew that to fit in with the Barcelona community they should learn some conversational Spanish and English. Martina took the initiatve herself to learn both English and some Russian...the Russian probably due to her relationship with Nelly. Alberto easily could have spent a few months learning some English and basic Russian, especially as he was not working at the time. I can see how over time, Martina could have been agitated and highly disappointed over his refusal to socialize with the RLC Barcelona community. I feel that if you're in a relationship you should want to share in the social interaction with your partner and her friends, but not so with Alberto...and it may have cost him dearly in the end. It is only supposition on my part, but maybe Alberto suffers from an inferiority complex resulting in anti-social behavior...or just sheer laziness on his part. Either way, it was quite selfish and could be a contributing factor in the dissolution of the relationship after all these years. Martina is a very social person and requires a lot of personal interaction with friends and a lot of love and attention...Alberto never fully understood that and eventually let her slip away. Thanks for your insight on this. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYBRD Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 hour ago, DWI said: Hi bobknob, You make a great point about Alberto's anti-social behavior. It is a subject often overlooked in the discussion of the eventual decline of the Martina/Alberto relationship. There were many, many RLC parties that Alberto refused to go to over the years. Some would say it was his percieved language barrier but in fact, to me, that's an unacceptible explanation. At these RLC parties there were almost always some Spanish-speaking and English-speaking Russian and Ukrainian participants. These Russians/Ukrainians were people who knew that to fit in with the Barcelona community they should learn some conversational Spanish and English. Martina took the initiatve herself to learn both English and some Russian...the Russian probably due to her relationship with Nelly. Alberto easily could have spent a few months learning some English and basic Russian, especially as he was not working at the time. I can see how over time, Martina could have been agitated and highly disappointed over his refusal to socialize with the RLC Barcelona community. I feel that if you're in a relationship you should want to share in the social interaction with your partner and her friends, but not so with Alberto...and it may have cost him dearly in the end. It is only supposition on my part, but maybe Alberto suffers from an inferiority complex resulting in anti-social behavior...or just sheer laziness on his part. Either way, it was quite selfish and could be a contributing factor in the dissolution of the relationship after all these years. Martina is a very social person and requires a lot of personal interaction with friends and a lot of love and attention...Alberto never fully understood that and eventually let her slip away. Thanks for your insight on this. Eso funciona en ambos sentidos, ¿no crees? No recuerdo que Martina socializara mucho con los amigos de Alberto. En lo que respecta al inglés, creo que descubrirás que sabe más inglés de lo que piensas. Lo he visto y oído escuchando transmisiones en inglés en su teléfono y en esa tableta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWI Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 52 minutes ago, JYBRD said: That works both ways, don't you think? I don't remember that Martina socialized much with Alberto's friends. As far as English is concerned, I think you will find that she knows more English than you think. I have seen and heard him listening to English broadcasts on his phone and on that tablet. Hi JYBRD, Well, I think the reason Martina never really socialized with Alberto's alleged friends is that he probably didn't have many. I have watched Martina and Alberto since their very beginning on RLC with a subscription and can only remember a handful of times over 10 years when a friend of Alberto's ever showed up at the apartment...excluding "fat boy". Secondly, if Alberto did understand and could speak English as you noticed, that's even more damning of a reason for him not to take part in RLC parties and activities. To my mind, that elimintes the "language barrier" excuse as there have been many, many Russians and Ukrainians who could understand and speak English...some quite fluently. If what you say is true, Alberto could have easily held a conversation with many of them...but he chose not to even attemp that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JYBRD Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 51 minutes ago, DWI said: Hi JYBRD, Well, I think the reason Martina never really socialized with Alberto's alleged friends is that he probably didn't have many. I have watched Martina and Alberto since their very beginning on RLC with a subscription and can only remember a handful of times over 10 years when a friend of Alberto's ever showed up at the apartment...excluding "fat boy". Secondly, if Alberto did understand and could speak English as you noticed, that's even more damning of a reason for him not to take part in RLC parties and activities. To my mind, that elimintes the "language barrier" excuse as there have been many, many Russians and Ukrainians who could understand and speak English...some quite fluently. If what you say is true, Alberto could have easily held a conversation with many of them...but he chose not to even attemp that. No puedo decir que lo culpe por no asistir a algunas de las fiestas de RLC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkman Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 vuelvo a repetir , cuando uno se empareja con alguien , ya sabe como es ese alguien , que amigos tiene ese alguien , si no te interesa no des el primer paso , alberto era asi antes , no como martina que va por la vida con diferentes mascaras segun le convenga , es un camaleon , segun sea el interes , asi es el disfraz . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddhm Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 I read a lot of analysis after the news that came up recently .. There isn’t much to say except and when EVERYONE here remembers the following … Martina and her female sex partner ( and also a married woman who was CLEARLY cheating her husband - who he knew it but he didn’t know what to say to his wife but he was asking Martina to break up the sexual relationship ) were fucking in HIS ONW SHARED bed in HIS OWN SHARED apartment with his “ girlfriend “ and he had the door closed ( so the two ladies don’t get disturbed or not disturb him 😂🤣) playing PlayStation ( pretending ???? ) like nothing was happening . I am sorry to say - and I have nothing against Alberto as i believe the majority knows from my posts - BUT , when your “ girlfriend “ is fucking next room ( no matter the whatever relationship you have perhaps your girlfriend - open , FWB , swingers - ) and you accept it without showing any frustration , sadness , anger , disappointment , just a NORMAL human reaction FFS for the woman that - as it is written lately - you love , then excuse me , this is what’s the natural ending that one day or the other will bring . You don’t “ fight “ for your girl , then what ? Then she knows that she CAN NEVER have you as the guy to BE HER ROCK at a certain crisis . Yes , always and forever best friends , but it needs more for a person to maybe come this day one Aya and perhaps look yourself in the mirror and say “ hmm , what have I been doing ? I had the best guy next to me and I abandoned him “ … How Martina could ever come in this conclusion when she has been experiencing such behaviors ( also what other forum members wrote with her being social and outgoing and Alberto preferring his video games and so on ) … At the moment , the apartment isn’t fun to watch , as recently said , the faster they move on with their lives , the better they will do . The more they stay and with the colder months coming ( more time inside the apartment and so on ) , this place will become unwatchable ( which will hurt the opinion we have for this great couple ) .. Let’s hope that they are working on a solution , otherwise , still depending on the RLC benefits , it will punish them later i believe getting finally in the outside real world quite older than now . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishy Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 (edited) Is Martina PG looks like it. I thought could be wrong. Oh well .No big Deal Edited September 3, 2023 by fishy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWI Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 hour ago, ddhm said: I read a lot of analysis after the news that came up recently.. There isn't much to say except and when EVERYONE here remembers the following … Martina and her female sex partner (and also a married woman who was CLEARLY cheating her husband - who he knew it but he didn't know what to say to his wife but he was asking Martina to break up the sexual relationship) were fucking in HIS ONW SHARED bed in HIS OWN SHARED apartment with his “girlfriend” and he had the door closed ( so the two ladies don't get disturbed or not disturb him 😂 🤣 ) playing PlayStation ( pretending ???? ) like nothing was happening . I am sorry to say - and I have nothing against Alberto as i believe the majority knows from my posts - BUT, when your “girlfriend” is fucking next room (no matter the whatever relationship you have perhaps your girlfriend - open, FWB, swingers -) and you accept it without showing any frustration, sadness, anger, disappointment, just a NORMAL human reaction FFS for the woman that - as it is written lately - you love, then excuse me, this is what's the natural ending that one day or the other will bring. You don't “fight” for your girl, so what? Then she knows that she CAN NEVER have you as the guy to BE HER ROCK at a certain crisis. Yes, always and forever best friends, but it needs more for a person to maybe come this day one Aya and perhaps look yourself in the mirror and say “hmm, what have I been doing? I had the best guy next to me and I abandoned him “… How Martina could ever come in this conclusion when she has been experiencing such behaviors (also what other forum members wrote with her being social and outgoing and Alberto preferring his video games and so on ) … At the moment, the apartment isn't fun to watch, as recently said, the faster they move on with their lives, the better they will do. The more they stay and with the colder months coming ( more time inside the apartment and so on ) , this place will become unwatchable ( which will hurt the opinion we have for this great couple ) .. Let's hope that they are working on a solution , otherwise , still depending on the RLC benefits , it will punish them later i believe finally getting in the outside real world quite older than now . What? Definitely missing some English translation here...hard to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbleobillo Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Does PG stand for Parental Guidance? Or does it stand for Post Graduate? Or something different altogether? Please clarify! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxfactor Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 54 minutes ago, bubbleobillo said: Does PG stand for Parental Guidance? Or does it stand for Post Graduate? Or something different altogether? Please clarify! Partly Gay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StnCld316 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 14 hours ago, moules said: I think there is a big financial consideration for Martina. If she were to leave RLC, no more apartment, no income from participating. I do not know whether she sends money home to her family. So a departure would be a big financial hit to her lifestyle. If he moves away, Alberto will also have a lower income. Unfortunately, he never did study to become a chef or an automobile mechanic, as he told his mother he would do. She managed to get by before she arrived and she'll manage the same way after she leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adalbert Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 A beautiful big bouquet of flowers is in the living room.😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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