Foamy T. Squirrel Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 Have you ever seen Lev drunk? Sure you have. Have you ever seen Leora drink an adult beverage? Pretty sure you haven't. Personally, I think she should run off with her woodland creature friends, but then I'd have to keep off the juice or the skunk would certainly win her affections. ;-) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StnCld316 Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 35 minutes ago, lollipopq said: It is evident that there has been some kind of breakdown in Leora and Paul's relationship; as she is hardly ever present and when she is, he takes very little interest in her. I mean- come on- what hot blooded guy would not be interested in Leora? At this rate, Leora will be off to get serviced by Lev... Leora will be off to get serviced by Lev. LOL She's be tossing one loser to the side to go after another loser. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBsq69 Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 There is no doubt that this is a strange relationship but it is less weird than it was in the past. 1. Leora and Paul love each other deeply - it is obvious in the looks they give each other and the amount of time they spend in physical contact 2. Paul finds Leora sexually attractive - but he cannot be fondling her 24 hours a day 3. Leora has had less opportunity to masturbate - true to a certain extent but she has had chances and shown very little interest in her kitty recently 4. Paul does not know how to satisfy her - that much is pretty evident. He does occasionally but it seems very rare. 5. Leora craves attention as much as ever - I think she is getting that now with the proviso of 4. 6. Leora is beginning to live more of a life - this remains to be seen but she certainly spends more time out of apartment than Paul. 7. Leora is still an exhibitionist - absolutely no doubt about that as she is naked or bottomless more than ever 8. Paul is lazier than ever - no doubt about this as he seems to have less interest in his projects and spend most of his time waiting for Leora to phone. 9. Leora's nights away are innocent - I see and hear absolutely no evidence to the contrary other than uninformed speculation. 10. Leora is not any more than averagely horny - only at certain times of the month does she really seem on heat which is a lot less than some RLC girls. 11. Paul is lost without Leora - a couple of hours observing him on his own will tell you that 12. Leora sometimes bates for our benefit more than hers - in my opinion she does, but I understand those who do not think that. 13. Paul is controlling - yes but less than he was a he appears to have lost a couple battles with her. 14. Paul is jealous and wants to keep for himself - of that I have no doubt and he has only partially come to terms with her hobby. 15. Leora's diet is not good - she eats a lot of what we would term junk food which so far is only having a minor effect. 16. Paul's libido is low - well he likes looking, he likes groping but does not show much sign of needing to be satisfied regularly. 17. Paul is clueless when opportunity presents - maybe years of Leora's games have worn him down but his behaviour often seems incomprehensible. 18. This is what Leora considers a normal/acceptable life - and that may be the problem. In summary I don't believe for one second Leora is having an affair and that in fact she sleeps at a friend's occasionally because her hours at the animal centre, where I presume she works, are awkward. Leora sleeping on the couch has very little to do with Paul amd more to do with her own eccentricity, possibly a need to be visible, possibly she is genuinely afraid of the dark but nothing can be read into the relationship from it. I am uncertain that Leora truly craves sex in the way that Nelly does and certainly not Masha so she can live without the sex but not the attention.This relationship is bad for Leora but she does not realise it because she knows nothing else. While I fear less for her than I once did I still wish she would leave Paul because one day he might crack. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue is the colour Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Excellernt observation - but I am not sure about her innocent nights away! time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solembum Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 BBsq69, after you personally attacked me in a previous post I did not retaliate. After your latest response I turned my attention to your posts. I believe you may have an obsession. An unhealthy obsession. You seem to post a ton of pics and watch all the time. Yet you see nothing. Healthy people can recognize when something is amiss. Please stop supporting the emotional abuse this woman is taking. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanohio Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 On 4/15/2016 at 3:24 AM, BBsq69 said: I don't believe for one second Leora is having an affair and that in fact she sleeps at a friend's occasionally because her hours at the animal centre, where I presume she works, are awkward. Although I have written a lot on this and am currently tracking her times away, I'm not accusing her of being involved in an affair. She might be spending time with a girlfriend for the purpose of getting away from Paul's controlling tendencies - which, in itself, is also bad. As you said, it appears (but we speculate that as well) they love each other. Paul certainly needs her - I'm not sure about the other way around. This might sound left-field, but this is the kind of relationship that one day, Leora simply won't come back from one of her "trips". If she ever finds an alternative that lets her be the free spirit she wants to be, there's little to hold her to Paul. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBsq69 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 alan, I have no doubt of the feelings between the 2 of them. They have been together a long long time and if people - I do not mean you - cannot see the strong affection between them they are clearly looking the wrong way and wishing for an alternative reality. If you look at my posts I have mentioned Paul's bad points repeatedly in the past including the control. She could do so much better but love is a strange thing and Paul got to her first. You are right Paul needs her much more than she needs him. It is very easy to see the strong effect her absences have on him and this is several years into their relationship - almost a 7 year itch for her LOL. I believe I have been as critical of Paul as anyone, but also critical of Leora as those who take the trouble to read all my posts properly will have discovered. Some people make assumptions because I defend her from attack but I will defend anyone if I feel as though they have been unfairly attacked hopefully with a rational argument but obviously some people anger me. A lot of nonsense has been written. I do not believe they are an RLC couple because he does not want to pay rent, that is merely a compensation for a situation he does not really like at all, but because Leora is who she is. Again Paul seems to have almost accepted being constantly on camera as his reality. So there are 2 things which hold her to Paul - first love and second the fact that a different lover would probably not allow her to pursue her hobby, and psychologically hobby is probably too weak a word. And Alan, I sincerely hope you are right about her leaving him. It can only be good for her. She is fairly intelligent girl, who can paint competently and still looks fantastic despite her diet and lifestyle (the 2 hours a day she spends looking at herself in the mirror probably helps) and is well capable of forming a healthier loving relationship with a much improved sex life. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebliz Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 8 hours ago, blue is the colour said: Excellernt observation - but I am not sure about her innocent nights away! time will tell. I think that I egree to that point but I'm not so sure about that, I do not follow regularly after this apartment. But one day(Paul was not at home) quite early she went out stylishly dressed, returned after about 20 minutes, changed including underwear to extremely sexy and went out again into the afternoon. In addition, - there was one case I had a thought that she involved in the business of sex. Again early in the morning (about 8 tehir local time) she came in (after neither of them were at night in the apartment) and took out from her handbag a package of money bills divided it into two parts one (the big one) she put back in the handbag the other part she divided again into two parts one she placed on the shelf in the hall and part in the drawer finally after couple of minutes took some of the bills from these two placs back to her handbag. biside that these uniforms she used looks to me too sexy for official uniforms Sorry for my imperfect English Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanohio Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 10 minutes ago, rebliz said: I think that I egree to that point but I'm not so sure about that, I do not follow regularly after this apartment. But one day(Paul was not at home) quite early she went out stylishly dressed, returned after about 20 minutes, changed including underwear to extremely sexy and went out again into the afternoon. In addition, - there was one case I had a thought that she involved in the business of sex. Again early in the morning (about 8 tehir local time) she came in (after neither of them were at night in the apartment) and took out from her handbag a package of money bills divided it into two parts one (the big one) she put back in the handbag the other part she divided again into two parts one she placed on the shelf in the hall and part in the drawer finally after couple of minutes took some of the bills from these two placs back to her handbag. biside that these uniforms she used looks to me too sexy for official uniforms Sorry for my imperfect English Hummmm.... I guess I hadn't thought of that possibility. I certainly don't want to fan the flames, but that WOULD explain why she is out 24-36 hours every Friday-Saturday. Wish I could have seen that scene with her counting out money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foamy T. Squirrel Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Yes, and she dressed like a nurse in the old apartment and CC people went crazy until outside authentic information surfaced and that concept was discounted. If she were a cam girl or a for-hire stripper, CC would have known about it a long time ago. Look at her life-style. Except for enjoying getting sexual and emotional attention, the woman could be a Presbyterian's daughter. No hookahs, no tobacco, no wine, no drugs. She doesn't fit the profile of either a street-walker or a high class escort girl. As for Paul being the controlling person in the relationship, just look at all the home decorations. Leora clearly rules that nest's environment. He's got the guitar and the computer and his electronic projects, and that's all. If they had an abusive relationship, they would have split years and years ago. As for Paul, I won't judge the man: Leora is definitely a high-maintenance woman. I gave up trying to figure out Paul & Leora years ago: I cannot understand their relationship or their minds; but it is enough to appreciate them. And she is sculpted just like an ancient Greek goddess with an impressive intellect and mysterious emotional mind. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanohio Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 I appreciate the comments. My curiosity was only for her overnight trips without a bag. It is easy to say she has a job, and it very likely is the answer, but a job that requires that long away from home is rare. I simply would like to get my head around what kind of job that would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepe Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 1 hour ago, alanohio said: I appreciate the comments. My curiosity was only for her overnight trips without a bag. It is easy to say she has a job, and it very likely is the answer, but a job that requires that long away from home is rare. I simply would like to get my head around what kind of job that would be. You must take into consideration they are in a culture some what different than us her in the US. It's very likely she may shower or just wash up where ever it is she's staying overnight and putting the same clothes back on or it could be she's working in a different city where she has to travel several hours to and from. I assure you there's nothing nefarious going on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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