groomy Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, waldi said: How much time will it take for vhtv to understand that nobody ( maybe apart a few sickos ) is interested in watching day to day life of other people. Yes. However, there is also a problem of high content inflation. For example, in the RLC - for year they just started masturbating to the camera (like Masha, Leora and other participants + more nudity). In VHTV - from the first orgies from Anna and Alex - go to 10+ apartments with orgies. Full bi participants. Interracial fuck. DP. BDSM. And inflation accelerates as new apartments are opened. 6 apartments opened in March: K&T - look unviable. Foxy - a new level of insanity for the project. P&R - Polly set out to defeat Misty in numbers and variations (unfortunately not in quality, Misty's more active and hot). Sex instructor - also dating new girls. M&G - hot, but Wild. I think there will be another drama and they will be expelled. L&O - completely bi. Regular meetings, group fuck several times a week. D&S - hot, but now they are alone. Perhaps soon they will go to a swing and orgies (Stif agree) The result - 1 apartment is below average, 1 new generation, 2 better current VH level, 1 +/- current level, 1 (M&G) some good but too wild (drama, violence). What's next? The next generation only from Woodman or Rocco. Just further on is hard professional porn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, groomy said: What's next? The next generation only from Woodman or Rocco. Just further on is hard professional porn. and that's boundaries which we don't want to be crossed, Let there be porn, but just amateur's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ze81 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Will miss Catherine and john...Thanks for all the atention and dedication you two gived to all viewrs.byebyeee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxximum Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 It was the best for all that they leaved, not fun watch them only play games and sleep all the time. There was not much action going on in the bed. Too bad I wanted to watch Catherine in more action. Well, have a lucky life Catherine & John! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miscvoyeur Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 50 minutes ago, groomy said: Yes. However, there is also a problem of high content inflation. I think VH has this misconception that eventually they will weed out all the weak apartments and have 25-30 apartments full of over-the-top wild and crazy sex antics. I obviously can't speak for everyone else but I know that if we had 25 apartments that are on the same level as Foxy and Kira, I would stop watching VH in it's entirety and I wouldn't even miss it. I said in another thread, crazy sexual behavior is not entirely necessary to succeed. All you need is variety and unpredictability. Em and Sid are a perfect example: those two don't even have sex. They've certainly gone longer without sex than Catherine and John, yet people comment about them daily. Why? Because that relationship is unpredictable. The possibility of new drama keeps people drawn in and interested and it always seems like at any moment a spark could set off another chain of events for those two. Even the apartments that do orgies and whatnot are becoming less acknowledged. Veronica visited Mira and Henry earlier and they had a threesome and multiple sex sessions. Not one single picture of it, let alone a single mention of it. People act like sex and nudity and more sex and more nudity is always the answer, just like people act like they want more lesbians and more girl only apartments, completely ignoring the fact that the two actual girl apartments Viki+Kate and Lina+Dominica hardly ever get comments. Viki+Kate only recently because of another couple coming in, which is the variety I talked about earlier. Lina and Dominca on the other hand haven't had single comment made in their thread in over 7 days. 1 hour ago, waldi said: How much time will it take for vhtv to understand that nobody ( maybe apart a few sickos ) is interested in watching day to day life of other people. Please don't drink that "real voyeurism vs. sex" argument kool-aid. There isn't a single person here that isn't interested in watching sex. I'm one of those people who actually enjoys watching regular activities and I readily admit that I love the sex aspect. That argument is fueled by people who have no goddamn idea what they're talking about, those who act as if there are two sets of people, people who like watching sex and people who don't. Some people -only- like watching sex, which is fine. But for others, it's the everyday things that makes the sex more interesting to watch; understanding the chemistry between a relationship, getting to understand them as actual people and not as just another random dick and twat. For some of us, that's what we like. But don't act is if we don't want to see a good fuck between them. And that's what the "professional porn vs. voyeurism" is. If anybody wants to categorize this as porn then go right on ahead. But for me, voyeurism is about more than watching people fuck. It's about slowly getting to understand who they are so I can better enjoy watching them fuck. If I didn't have that interest in me, then I'd watching professional porn instead of VH or RLC. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjkopite Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 9 minutes ago, miscvoyeur said: It's about slowly getting to understand who they are so I can better enjoy watching them fuck An excellent summation that I totally agree with. Misc you put it a lot better than I could, it is not just the sex, it is getting an understanding of the people who are having sex ! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 14 minutes ago, miscvoyeur said: Please don't drink that "real voyeurism vs. sex" argument kool-aid. There isn't a single person here that isn't interested in watching sex. I'm one of those people who actually enjoys watching regular activities and I readily admit that I love the sex aspect. That argument is fueled by people who have no goddamn idea what they're talking about, those who act as if there are two sets of people, people who like watching sex and people who don't. Some people -only- like watching sex, which is fine. But for others, it's the everyday things that makes the sex more interesting to watch; understanding the chemistry between a relationship, getting to understand them as actual people and not as just another random dick and twat. For some of us, that's what we like. But don't act is if we don't want to see a good fuck between them. And that's what the "professional porn vs. voyeurism" is. If anybody wants to categorize this as porn then go right on ahead. But for me, voyeurism is about more than watching people fuck. It's about slowly getting to understand who they are so I can better enjoy watching them fuck. If I didn't have that interest in me, then I'd watching professional porn instead of VH or RLC. cool. I hope you can get what you want. What I said was just a shorthand and didn't mean to generalize. We're all different and any of us is interested in slightly different aspects. That's why there are so many apartments available to watch. I can only speak for myself. I don't follow participants' life ( simply have no time for that, I've got life of my own ) and don't care who they are, at least not too much. According to valid definition, I'm not a real voyeur and frankly speaking, it doesn't matter to me at all. I'm here to have fun and watch amateurs having sex, but there's no point to argue about it, from the forum you can easily conclude that everyone wants to watch something else. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 Good thing is we have so many places and there is stuff for everybody to enjoy.... To Cat & John: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfer06 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 they're gone! 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkles Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 4 hours ago, miscvoyeur said: I think VH has this misconception that eventually they will weed out all the weak apartments and have 25-30 apartments full of over-the-top wild and crazy sex antics. I obviously can't speak for everyone else but I know that if we had 25 apartments that are on the same level as Foxy and Kira, I would stop watching VH in it's entirety and I wouldn't even miss it. I said in another thread, crazy sexual behavior is not entirely necessary to succeed. All you need is variety and unpredictability. Em and Sid are a perfect example: those two don't even have sex. They've certainly gone longer without sex than Catherine and John, yet people comment about them daily. Why? Because that relationship is unpredictable. The possibility of new drama keeps people drawn in and interested and it always seems like at any moment a spark could set off another chain of events for those two. Even the apartments that do orgies and whatnot are becoming less acknowledged. Veronica visited Mira and Henry earlier and they had a threesome and multiple sex sessions. Not one single picture of it, let alone a single mention of it. People act like sex and nudity and more sex and more nudity is always the answer, just like people act like they want more lesbians and more girl only apartments, completely ignoring the fact that the two actual girl apartments Viki+Kate and Lina+Dominica hardly ever get comments. Viki+Kate only recently because of another couple coming in, which is the variety I talked about earlier. Lina and Dominca on the other hand haven't had single comment made in their thread in over 7 days. Please don't drink that "real voyeurism vs. sex" argument kool-aid. There isn't a single person here that isn't interested in watching sex. I'm one of those people who actually enjoys watching regular activities and I readily admit that I love the sex aspect. That argument is fueled by people who have no goddamn idea what they're talking about, those who act as if there are two sets of people, people who like watching sex and people who don't. Some people -only- like watching sex, which is fine. But for others, it's the everyday things that makes the sex more interesting to watch; understanding the chemistry between a relationship, getting to understand them as actual people and not as just another random dick and twat. For some of us, that's what we like. But don't act is if we don't want to see a good fuck between them. And that's what the "professional porn vs. voyeurism" is. If anybody wants to categorize this as porn then go right on ahead. But for me, voyeurism is about more than watching people fuck. It's about slowly getting to understand who they are so I can better enjoy watching them fuck. If I didn't have that interest in me, then I'd watching professional porn instead of VH or RLC. Tks for this post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkles Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 7 hours ago, groomy said: What's next? The next generation only from Woodman or Rocco. Just further on is hard professional porn. Not Bold: Isn't that in some kind already at vh??? Next: I would say almost all houses of alex&lina (maybe excepting lola&otto - for how long??? and ella&isaac - don't know what will happen in the new box they are living). Comparing last week movements (and it's the only "ratings" we can measure here). Sid & Em had a lot more movement then all houses together of Alex&Lina last week. Also would say that houses of M&H are starting to struggling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 We saw how long Cat & John stayed online doing nothing and we don't even know if they left because of bad ratings or they had personal reasons. For sure people with bad ratings get kicked out immediately is not the case at all... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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