Thoughts on Illegal immigration?

[happyone]

7 minutes ago, Maturin said:

  The article is talking about the symptoms not the cause, I thought that was clear enough and frankly I'm a bit disappointed that I needed to clarify that. Oh well.

Frankly , I am disappointed that you think that your position is the only correct one, you are the one true source,  and that you must demonize the USA or anyone that might not agree with your conspiracy theories, because you refuse to back up your statements with reliable, unbias, sources. 

[happyone]

Oh, BTW--you really should go to the Hollywood movies more often--great entertainment and source of factual information. 😏

[Maturin]

Didn't take long for the fake news card to get played did it. You people must bore the shit our of yourselves.

[Thestarider]

Just now, Maturin said:

Didn't take long for the fake news card to get played did it. You people must bore the shit our of yourselves.

More insults as usual, typical of the Maturin.

[happyone]

48 minutes ago, Maturin said:

Didn't take long for the fake news card to get played did it. You people must bore the shit our of yourselves.

Go back and read the discussion.  You are the only one who brought up fake news.  The only thing I asked for was reliable, unbias, sources that you thought could back up your statements. 

So, as a diversionary tactic, since you obviously have none, you went on an insult rampage.  I am sorry, because I expected more.  

[Ridgerunner]

On 8/11/2018 at 12:39 AM, Maturin said:

I missed this sorry. I don't believe in official ports of entry, I don't believe that people should be designated illegal because they do not hold the correct piece of paper, I do not believe in the artificial concept of a border.

I believe that we're all brainwashed to think that these things really matter by the people that control us. Borders are political, they are a way for politicians to say to us that we are one people within the this border and there are people outside it that want to hurt you but I'll keep you safe, so long as you vote for me.  It's lies.

I don't really care that much for the opinions that buy into the political brainwashing that the majority of people are caught under.  What Trump is doing wrong is what he was brought up in Western society to do - and that is to think that we are better than everyone else and that our borders protect us from the nasty foreign brown guys outside.  Meanwhile, we use our economic power and military might to destroy the viability of the countries in which the brown guys live so they have no choice but to try to seek a country that works in order to make a living for themselves.

If you don't understand the fact the the US and its allies create the refugee and migrant crises then sorry but I really can't help you.

Do you really not think that if the US military/industrial complex gets what it's been after for 40 years and Trump starts a war with Iran and destroys it's very viability (like in Iraq, Afghanistan and and Syria) then the US will not see a massive spike in Iranian refugees and migrants? 

Stop destroying countries in the Middle East and in the case of South America, stop fucking them over economically and these people will stop trying to enter the US - it really is that fucking simple.

Same old Marxist bullshit I've heard for 60 years.You are a complete and total idiot.How can you even talk about the viability of any country when you admit that you do not believe in borders?If you have no borders,you have no country.  

[Ridgerunner]

17 hours ago, Maturin said:

Didn't take long for the fake news card to get played did it. You people must bore the shit our of yourselves.

I think you are fake.I'm tired of unhappy,miserable people like you blaming all the world's problems and all your personal problems on the U.S. 

[ipiratemedia]

UNDERSTANDING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.. THE COMER WAY - EASY AS A B C 

If Democrats feel passionate about Illegals, give then a room. Let them take money out of your earnings and support them. I'm all for it. Your cash, NOT mine... SANCTUARY CITIES? How about some Sanctuary for our homeless American Veterans who deserves better...Sorry, no rooms for any Americans living in the streets. And you want to know why Trump won? 

 

 

[Maturin]

22 hours ago, Ridgerunner said:

I think you are fake.I'm tired of unhappy,miserable people like you blaming all the world's problems and all your personal problems on the U.S. 

You all keep using words like Marxist, Socialist etc like you know what they mean and then in the same sentence prove that you don't.  It is fucking weird to be honest. I'm certain that across the internet you go around trolling your half-baked bullshit as you fight against commies and snowflakes, insulting their intelligence by calling the names and insinuating negative character traits instead of engaging with what they are saying - and then I'm sure you call it a win, a  score for the conservatives when they just stop replying to you.

It isn't a win for you when people stop replying to you because the things that you write are bullshit.  People have better things to do with their lives instead of constantly dragging themselves down to the level that you operate at. Take the highlighted above:

unhappy, miserable people like you - the fuck has making up bullshit about someone you've never met got to do with immigration?

On 8/12/2018 at 1:25 AM, happyone said:

So, as a diversionary tactic, since you obviously have none, you went on an insult rampage.  I am sorry, because I expected more.  

And this one from you buddy, can you not see that there are pages here, a record of what has been written? I didn't insult anybody, this is another type of bullshit that you people come up with, to get of the actual subject that you are failing to understand.

You people also do a thing called projection. Let's take those two examples - "insult rampage," "unhappy miserable people," this is projection because almost every message to me from you both has either a direct insult or some other negative association attached to it.  I know that I am neither unhappy or miserable (yet I log back on here to a 5 notifications from this thread alone, what sort of  unhappy miserable chumps send someone 5 notifications while he's been away) and I also know that I'm am not insulted by you (but am well aware that your juvenile jibes and half-cocked political aspersions are designed to try, yet fail, to insult me).

It is absolutely pathetic and indicative of, not just the poor political knowledge of its people but also, the poor standards of education in America in general, that people who have differing political views are berated and heckled by the regurgitative parrots that are so prevalent now throughout the American population.  It is not high-functioning political engagement to call someone that disagrees with you unhappy or miserable - it is worthless and childish. Politics is not a team sport in which you try to shout down the oppositions fans by any means necessary and call it a win when they walk away from such bullshit behaviour.

There is literally nothing that you, strangers on the internet, can say to insult me. Each and every time you try to insult me in order to generate an emotional response rather than than the reasonable response you further reinforce all that I have written above. If your level of debating is limited to that of an idiot teenager trying to antagonise an adult then you really need to educate yourselves more.

If either of you had displayed the capability of even understanding the above at face value then the following sentence would not be necessary, but if you are going to continue to display the intelligence of poorly educated, politically challenged teenagers then sadly I feel the need to write this disclaimer:

The above is not an insult, it is an observation based on your behaviour on these forums.  There is a definite difference and I suggest learning what the difference is between an insult and an observation because, based on the the sort of people you appear to be by how you come across on here, knowing that difference will absolutely change your lives for the better."

I am fully prepared for you both of you to take what I've written here and turn it around, as you usually do, in the slightly more elaborate yet wholly unoriginal manner of, "No, I'm not that thing you called me, you're that thing you called me," that you seem to think hasn't gone unnoticed and that you also seem to think that is a valid of debating in a mature way.  Spoiler alert: It isn't and it never has been. 

I literally feel like I am writing to and scolding the dumb kids in the class, like what the fuck?!  😂 Going forward I am not prepared to reply to either of you unless you take the above on board because:
"It isn't a win for you when people stop replying to you because the things that you write are bullshit. People have better things to do with their lives instead of constantly dragging themselves down to the level that you operate at. Which is why these forums inevitably go silent, there is no quality of mind here."

 

[happyone]

8 hours ago, Maturin said:

You all keep using words like Marxist, Socialist etc like you know what they mean and then in the same sentence prove that you don't.  It is fucking weird to be honest. I'm certain that across the internet you go around trolling your half-baked bullshit as you fight against commies and snowflakes, insulting their intelligence by calling the names and insinuating negative character traits instead of engaging with what they are saying - and then I'm sure you call it a win, a  score for the conservatives when they just stop replying to you.

It isn't a win for you when people stop replying to you because the things that you write are bullshit.  People have better things to do with their lives instead of constantly dragging themselves down to the level that you operate at. Take the highlighted above:

unhappy, miserable people like you - the fuck has making up bullshit about someone you've never met got to do with immigration?

And this one from you buddy, can you not see that there are pages here, a record of what has been written? I didn't insult anybody, this is another type of bullshit that you people come up with, to get of the actual subject that you are failing to understand.

You people also do a thing called projection. Let's take those two examples - "insult rampage," "unhappy miserable people," this is projection because almost every message to me from you both has either a direct insult or some other negative association attached to it.  I know that I am neither unhappy or miserable (yet I log back on here to a 5 notifications from this thread alone, what sort of  unhappy miserable chumps send someone 5 notifications while he's been away) and I also know that I'm am not insulted by you (but am well aware that your juvenile jibes and half-cocked political aspersions are designed to try, yet fail, to insult me).

It is absolutely pathetic and indicative of, not just the poor political knowledge of its people but also, the poor standards of education in America in general, that people who have differing political views are berated and heckled by the regurgitative parrots that are so prevalent now throughout the American population.  It is not high-functioning political engagement to call someone that disagrees with you unhappy or miserable - it is worthless and childish. Politics is not a team sport in which you try to shout down the oppositions fans by any means necessary and call it a win when they walk away from such bullshit behaviour.

There is literally nothing that you, strangers on the internet, can say to insult me. Each and every time you try to insult me in order to generate an emotional response rather than than the reasonable response you further reinforce all that I have written above. If your level of debating is limited to that of an idiot teenager trying to antagonise an adult then you really need to educate yourselves more.

If either of you had displayed the capability of even understanding the above at face value then the following sentence would not be necessary, but if you are going to continue to display the intelligence of poorly educated, politically challenged teenagers then sadly I feel the need to write this disclaimer:

The above is not an insult, it is an observation based on your behaviour on these forums.  There is a definite difference and I suggest learning what the difference is between an insult and an observation because, based on the the sort of people you appear to be by how you come across on here, knowing that difference will absolutely change your lives for the better."

I am fully prepared for you both of you to take what I've written here and turn it around, as you usually do, in the slightly more elaborate yet wholly unoriginal manner of, "No, I'm not that thing you called me, you're that thing you called me," that you seem to think hasn't gone unnoticed and that you also seem to think that is a valid of debating in a mature way.  Spoiler alert: It isn't and it never has been. 

I literally feel like I am writing to and scolding the dumb kids in the class, like what the fuck?!  😂 Going forward I am not prepared to reply to either of you unless you take the above on board because:
"It isn't a win for you when people stop replying to you because the things that you write are bullshit. People have better things to do with their lives instead of constantly dragging themselves down to the level that you operate at. Which is why these forums inevitably go silent, there is no quality of mind here."

 

Talk about projection--look inward --analyze thyself.  This is not an insult, just an observation.. And by the way, you act like a professor trying to indoctrinate your class---I am not in your classroom.--

You are not the truth, the way and the life, my friend.

[Ridgerunner]

9 hours ago, Maturin said:

You all keep using words like Marxist, Socialist etc like you know what they mean and then in the same sentence prove that you don't.  It is fucking weird to be honest. I'm certain that across the internet you go around trolling your half-baked bullshit as you fight against commies and snowflakes, insulting their intelligence by calling the names and insinuating negative character traits instead of engaging with what they are saying - and then I'm sure you call it a win, a  score for the conservatives when they just stop replying to you.

It isn't a win for you when people stop replying to you because the things that you write are bullshit.  People have better things to do with their lives instead of constantly dragging themselves down to the level that you operate at. Take the highlighted above:

unhappy, miserable people like you - the fuck has making up bullshit about someone you've never met got to do with immigration?

And this one from you buddy, can you not see that there are pages here, a record of what has been written? I didn't insult anybody, this is another type of bullshit that you people come up with, to get of the actual subject that you are failing to understand.

You people also do a thing called projection. Let's take those two examples - "insult rampage," "unhappy miserable people," this is projection because almost every message to me from you both has either a direct insult or some other negative association attached to it.  I know that I am neither unhappy or miserable (yet I log back on here to a 5 notifications from this thread alone, what sort of  unhappy miserable chumps send someone 5 notifications while he's been away) and I also know that I'm am not insulted by you (but am well aware that your juvenile jibes and half-cocked political aspersions are designed to try, yet fail, to insult me).

It is absolutely pathetic and indicative of, not just the poor political knowledge of its people but also, the poor standards of education in America in general, that people who have differing political views are berated and heckled by the regurgitative parrots that are so prevalent now throughout the American population.  It is not high-functioning political engagement to call someone that disagrees with you unhappy or miserable - it is worthless and childish. Politics is not a team sport in which you try to shout down the oppositions fans by any means necessary and call it a win when they walk away from such bullshit behaviour.

There is literally nothing that you, strangers on the internet, can say to insult me. Each and every time you try to insult me in order to generate an emotional response rather than than the reasonable response you further reinforce all that I have written above. If your level of debating is limited to that of an idiot teenager trying to antagonise an adult then you really need to educate yourselves more.

If either of you had displayed the capability of even understanding the above at face value then the following sentence would not be necessary, but if you are going to continue to display the intelligence of poorly educated, politically challenged teenagers then sadly I feel the need to write this disclaimer:

The above is not an insult, it is an observation based on your behaviour on these forums.  There is a definite difference and I suggest learning what the difference is between an insult and an observation because, based on the the sort of people you appear to be by how you come across on here, knowing that difference will absolutely change your lives for the better."

I am fully prepared for you both of you to take what I've written here and turn it around, as you usually do, in the slightly more elaborate yet wholly unoriginal manner of, "No, I'm not that thing you called me, you're that thing you called me," that you seem to think hasn't gone unnoticed and that you also seem to think that is a valid of debating in a mature way.  Spoiler alert: It isn't and it never has been. 

I literally feel like I am writing to and scolding the dumb kids in the class, like what the fuck?!  😂 Going forward I am not prepared to reply to either of you unless you take the above on board because:
"It isn't a win for you when people stop replying to you because the things that you write are bullshit. People have better things to do with their lives instead of constantly dragging themselves down to the level that you operate at. Which is why these forums inevitably go silent, there is no quality of mind here."

 

Blah,blah,blah,blah.

[happyone]

On 8/11/2018 at 2:09 PM, Maturin said:

Deleted for brevity

I found the above in seconds, after inputting 4 words and clicking twice.  There is no longer any excuse for being so uninformed.  Your "news," is lying to you and the truth behind the lies that you believe are becoming easier to uncover.

I guess it really depends on whether your information comes from a right click or a left click-😏

Yours obviously is all left clicks