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Don't know for you guys, but I'm tempted to make a suggestion to RLC concerning B2 and B1 ... Either you change all the girls ( anyway, we had nothing since they entered ), or you close these 2 appartments. Maybe I would also incluse 3K. I can't imagine a girl like Kamila never bates. Wouldn't be a big loss. We were used to have so great moments in there, that would be sad but... Just remind RLC that people pay to see these girls do NOTHING ... That needs reflexion ... 

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15 minutes ago, menouscope2015 said:

Don't know for you guys, but I'm tempted to make a suggestion to RLC concerning B2 and B1 ... Either you change all the girls ( anyway, we had nothing since they entered ), or you close these 2 appartments. Maybe I would also incluse 3K. I can't imagine a girl like Kamila never bates. Wouldn't be a big loss. We were used to have so great moments in there, that would be sad but... Just remind RLC that people pay to see these girls do NOTHING ... That needs reflexion ... 

I understand your frustration at these girls.  I am frustrated as well but right now I honestly don't think changing all those girls at one time is going to solve anything.  They could easily be replaced with girls that could be just as bad or worse.  I think RLC needs to dramatically change their screening process for prospective new girls.  They need to really look long and hard at more than just the information provided by these girls when they apply.  People exaggerate their qualifications and experience on resumes and job applications more and more as the job market tightens.  The interview process needs major changes.  At least a couple active paying subscribers to RLC need to be included as interviewers.   One interview may not be enough, it may take 2 or 3 to really make sure the candidates are right for the project and even then there is no guarantee we will get a girl that will actually deliver on what she promises.  

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Il y a 1 heure, menouscope2015 a dit :

Don't know for you guys, but I'm tempted to make a suggestion to RLC concerning B2 and B1 ... Either you change all the girls ( anyway, we had nothing since they entered ), or you close these 2 appartments. Maybe I would also incluse 3K. I can't imagine a girl like Kamila never bates. Wouldn't be a big loss. We were used to have so great moments in there, that would be sad but... Just remind RLC that people pay to see these girls do NOTHING ... That needs reflexion ... 

Ah yes I have been harping on this ever since... and also emailed RLC.

If I were to suggest, I will change all the girls in B2 and B1 except for Gina. These girls DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FOR US VIEWERS. And we have to pay extra for Replay, but what we see on Replay? NOTHING. And for Kamila, she is the best example of how that bitch in B1 will end up to be or already is. I won't want to close down 3K cos I have a soft spot for Kaley 🙄

But RLC don't have the balls to do such change.

I don't know any contract details between RLC & the girls but I think performance bonuses must be or should already be included on top of their basic pay to encourage action and I mean REAL ACTION not under the blanket touchy-freely. There must be minimum requirements to be met or else the girls face monetary penalties. Just look at that bitch in B1. Hit the clubs on most nights, pointless interaction with other girls and even worse, drag down other girls (Mila for instance, look at her now compared to when she was with this bitch) and ignores her house mates (Gina) or ended up on no-speaking terms with them (Amina, Karina). When Mila was in B1, credit to her for greeting Gina and giving her a smile at least. That bitch? Nah fxxk her.

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il y a une heure, cheesehead51 a dit :

I understand your frustration at these girls.  I am frustrated as well but right now I honestly don't think changing all those girls at one time is going to solve anything.  They could easily be replaced with girls that could be just as bad or worse.  I think RLC needs to dramatically change their screening process for prospective new girls.  They need to really look long and hard at more than just the information provided by these girls when they apply.  People exaggerate their qualifications and experience on resumes and job applications more and more as the job market tightens.  The interview process needs major changes.  At least a couple active paying subscribers to RLC need to be included as interviewers.   One interview may not be enough, it may take 2 or 3 to really make sure the candidates are right for the project and even then there is no guarantee we will get a girl that will actually deliver on what she promises.  

I don't think the screening process will be effective. The candidate whom may fulfill your screening criteria may not end up performing to what you expect of them.

What they need are zero favoritism, enforcement, minimum requirements to fulfill and penalties for NO SHOW. 

Can you imagine if Elvira knows that Daisy is doing no shit but still get about the same pay as her? What do you think will be her response? If I were her, I will do a Daisy day in day out and still get my pay.

From where I come from (generally the corporate sector), people will start to do what you want when you cut their pay or show them the door because they under-perform but reward them when they perform for you. 

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2 minutes ago, SierraTM said:

I don't think the screening process will be effective. The candidate whom may fulfill your screening criteria may not end up performing to what you expect of them.

What they need are zero favoritism, enforcement, minimum requirements to fulfill and penalties for NO SHOW. 

Can you imagine if Elvira knows that Daisy is doing no shit but still get about the same pay as her? What do you think will be her response? If I were her, I will do a Daisy day in day out and still get my pay.

From where I come from (generally the corporate sector), people will start to do what you want when you cut their pay or show them the door because they under-perform but reward them when they perform for you. 

I don't pretend to know exactly how their pay structure works but my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, from reading the posts over the past 7 months is that all the girls get a base pay just for being in the project and there are almost no requirements other than they dress scantily much of the time and probably spend at least x number of hours in the apartment per week.  Anything they earn above that base pay is through bonus money for specific things.  If that's true then Elvira has nothing at all to get upset about.  She gets her bonus money for what she does and Daisy gets just base pay because she doesn't do anything to earn bonus money. Compare it to your corporate sector and it seems to me to be much the same as commission sales.  If I'm wrong then I'm wrong but this is just how I have interpreted what I've read.    

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2 hours ago, cheesehead51 said:

I don't pretend to know exactly how their pay structure works but my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, from reading the posts over the past 7 months ......  If I'm wrong then I'm wrong but this is just how I have interpreted what I've read.    

"almost no requirements other than they dress scantily much of the time and probably spend at least x number of hours in the apartment per week."

How is this turning out for us so far? And does all the girls follow these requirements? Dress scantily is pretty vague to me too.

"She gets her bonus money for what she does and Daisy gets just base pay because she doesn't do anything to earn bonus money"

Yea I agree with you & I addressed this in my earlier reply to menouscope2015. But this is not enough, we need penalties too. 

"Compare it to your corporate sector and it seems to me to be much the same as commission sales."

Not exactly, for the commission part maybe yes but under corporate standards or any proper standards, Daisy will be kicked under 3 weeks. I will personally escort the ***** in B1 to the airport after her first month. For the B2 girls, all of them will be kicked b4 they receive their full month pay. 

But in truth, all these will only be relevant if RLC actually care about their subscribers and offer them good value for their premium subscriptions.

I have less than a month to rant so forgive me if I offended you in any way.

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23 minutes ago, cheesehead51 said:

I don't pretend to know exactly how their pay structure works but my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, from reading the posts over the past 7 months is that all the girls get a base pay just for being in the project and there are almost no requirements other than they dress scantily much of the time and probably spend at least x number of hours in the apartment per week.  Anything they earn above that base pay is through bonus money for specific things.  If that's true then Elvira has nothing at all to get upset about.  She gets her bonus money for what she does and Daisy gets just base pay because she doesn't do anything to earn bonus money. Compare it to your corporate sector and it seems to me to be much the same as commission sales.  If I'm wrong then I'm wrong but this is just how I have interpreted what I've read.    

once I complained to VHTV because nothing happened in an apartment, after a few hours they answered, because on VHTV the subscriber is not treated like shit and they told me that they warned the couple and if they continued they are not been paid while they were doing more activities they would earn more, RLC will work the same way, I think

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1 hour ago, SierraTM said:

"almost no requirements other than they dress scantily much of the time and probably spend at least x number of hours in the apartment per week."

How is this turning out for us so far? And does all the girls follow these requirements? Dress scantily is pretty vague to me too.

"She gets her bonus money for what she does and Daisy gets just base pay because she doesn't do anything to earn bonus money"

Yea I agree with you & I addressed this in my earlier reply to menouscope2015. But this is not enough, we need penalties too. 

"Compare it to your corporate sector and it seems to me to be much the same as commission sales."

Not exactly, for the commission part maybe yes but under corporate standards or any proper standards, Daisy will be kicked under 3 weeks. I will personally escort the ***** in B1 to the airport after her first month. For the B2 girls, all of them will be kicked b4 they receive their full month pay. 

But in truth, all these will only be relevant if RLC actually care about their subscribers and offer them good value for their premium subscriptions.

I have less than a month to rant so forgive me if I offended you in any way.

You haven't offended me at all.  We just see the same thing slightly differently.  I think their base pay is just for occupying space in the apartment and it's hard to do that wrong so you can't really fine them for it.  

ut in truth, all these will only be relevant if RLC actually care about their subscribers and offer them good value for their premium subscriptions.  This is the biggest problem as I see it.  RLC doesn't care. That is what needs fixing

 

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23 minutes ago, Sergio said:

once I complained to VHTV because nothing happened in an apartment, after a few hours they answered, because on VHTV the subscriber is not treated like shit and they told me that they warned the couple and if they continued they are not been paid while they were doing more activities they would earn more, RLC will work the same way, I think

VHTV and RLC are two completely different projects even if the goal first and make money with the product
 
For me, the big problem of VHTV is that they listen to too much their subscribers because in any case, you can not please everyone and you will always have someone to complain about any what, so yes they listen to their subscribers but in a sense they consider their participants like shit, it gives me the impression to see people go to the zoo to throw peanuts to the animals because it amuses them, we are really not far from it on VHTV, everything for show and sex to the detriment of the human

For RLC, I think it's different, you have couples who have been present for years while things are out of the ordinary, and yet they are always present, it means, in my opinion , that RLC considers the participants much more

The apartments in Barcelona work a little differently, girls come to the apartment, they receive a contribution to be seen by the cameras (in no way abnormal) and there is opportunity for girls to earn more money in the form of a bonus if they show a little more than the usual, all that to say that girls have no obligation to perform the show, but some do so because it allows them to earn much more money
They are Russian or Ukrainian and life is not as easy as for other countries so the aspect of making money easily by doing the show a bit must be quite attractive
Some are ready for everything and others a little less, for those who are a little less generally, they only stay a month, whereas if you're more open, you can stay longer and thus allow you to win again more money easy

For my part, I usually prefer shy girls because it helps to satisfy my voyeur eye because precisely it allows to have images of these people that could be considered as new because rare
Unlike girls who show up every night, when you see one or two, you already have everything you need

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2 hours ago, cheesehead51 said:

I don't pretend to know exactly how their pay structure works but my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, from reading the posts over the past 7 months is that all the girls get a base pay just for being in the project and there are almost no requirements other than they dress scantily much of the time and probably spend at least x number of hours in the apartment per week.  Anything they earn above that base pay is through bonus money for specific things.  If that's true then Elvira has nothing at all to get upset about.  She gets her bonus money for what she does and Daisy gets just base pay because she doesn't do anything to earn bonus money. Compare it to your corporate sector and it seems to me to be much the same as commission sales.  If I'm wrong then I'm wrong but this is just how I have interpreted what I've read.    

That's pretty much how it works Cheesy...The girls get a basic pay for having cams pointing at them 24/7. They don't have to perform like circus animals and can go about their daily business, which might not add up to much, or may mean they're out a lot. It's then up to the girls whether they want to earn extra dosh, which is reflected in what they do. So, for instance, the B1 girls will be getting pretty much the same basic pay, although Gina's nudity, such as her naked work out, probably earns her a bonus...Elvira and Mila will get more, for obvious reasons...

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