Ridgerunner Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 2 hours ago, letsdothis said: I recall you had one when you claimed the death toll would only be 50,000-60,000. Another one of your many lies. Show me where I claimed that the death toll would only be 50,000-60,000. I was hoping for a figure much lower than that. Only Democrats and the news media are hoping for people to die, thinking that it will help them to defeat Trump and the Republicans in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, StarLight28 said: We want to differentiate. Concentrated on a few locations, you can actually find top medicine in the USA. However, the supply is unreasonably poor across the board. This is due to two things. On the one hand, far too many people are not covered by health insurance and cannot afford medical treatment, and on the other hand there is also "profit maximization" in the medical field without social components - ie "predator capitalism". 😁 Incidentally, US medicine in distant America, the land of unfulfilled dreams, has long been overestimated. In the meantime there is probably no treatment that could also be done in Germany. Statesmen from all countries (including countries that are not so friendly) can now be treated and operated on incognito in Germany. There's a reason for that. 9 minutes ago, StarLight28 said: We want to differentiate. Concentrated on a few locations, you can actually find top medicine in the USA. However, the supply is unreasonably poor across the board. This is due to two things. On the one hand, far too many people are not covered by health insurance and cannot afford medical treatment, and on the other hand there is also "profit maximization" in the medical field without social components - ie "predator capitalism". 😁 Incidentally, US medicine in distant America, the land of unfulfilled dreams, has long been overestimated. In the meantime there is probably no treatment that could also be done in Germany. Statesmen from all countries (including countries that are not so friendly) can now be treated and operated on incognito in Germany. There's a reason for that. You just demonstrated that you know absolutely nothing about the U.S. healthcare system. People who do not have health insurance and cannot afford to pay for medical treatment are covered by Medicaid. No one who goes to an American hospital is refused treatment, that includes illegal aliens. One of the major reasons hospitals charge high fees to insurance companies and individuals who pay for medical services is so that they can treat people who are unable to pay. Elderly people like myself are covered by Medicare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgerunner Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 10 hours ago, jjkopite said: And that Governments worldwide make sure they fund their medical services adequately and have a decent supply of PPE! At the same time that China and WHO were saying that coronavirus could not be transferred from human to human China was buying and stockpiling PPE supplies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesOnly Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Well its not like they have any morals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarLight28 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 7 hours ago, nagachilli2 said: Er hat 'Bunker' falsch verstanden ... 😏 ER versteht vieles falsch - das ist sein Standard-Problem 😁 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robwin Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Ridgerunner said: You just demonstrated that you know absolutely nothing about the U.S. healthcare system. People who do not have health insurance and cannot afford to pay for medical treatment are covered by Medicaid. No one who goes to an American hospital is refused treatment, that includes illegal aliens. One of the major reasons hospitals charge high fees to insurance companies and individuals who pay for medical services is so that they can treat people who are unable to pay. Elderly people like myself are covered by Medicare. Well I don't quite understand the American system I must admit, why have insurance if you get treated anyway? What is the advantage to having health insurance, there must be one. Only asking. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesOnly Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Anytime care is provided, a bill is generated for which payment is due. The insurance is to cover the payment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsdothis Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Ridgerunner said: Because you are a pompous asshole and he is not. Look who's talking about someone else being a pompous asshole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsdothis Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Ridgerunner said: Please don't cry, sorry I hurt your little feelings. You couldn't find the article because it doesn't exist. You were wrong. I would never paint you as being perfect and confirm your opinion of yourself. For a man in his mid-70s, you are unbelievably juvenile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsdothis Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Ridgerunner said: Another one of your many lies. Show me where I claimed that the death toll would only be 50,000-60,000. I was hoping for a figure much lower than that. Only Democrats and the news media are hoping for people to die, thinking that it will help them to defeat Trump and the Republicans in November. There you go again. No one hopes anyone will die from this virus, not even to get trump out of office. I do believe that 10s of thousands more people died than should have. But, this is what you said on 4/25. And, when you made this statement, the death toll was just under 50,000. https://camcaps.net/forums/topic/16119-discussion2019-novel-corona-virus-covid19-and-its-political-ramifications-3/?do=findComment&comment=1635860175 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsdothis Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 5 hours ago, Ridgerunner said: You are a pseudo intellectual phony. Who are trying to impress? People who know nothing about mathematics? You take what is a simple calculation and make it into a major endeavor. But it doesn't matter anyway, because that calculation has no connection to reality. Since the death rate is on a steady decline, an average of past deaths/day has no relevance for future projections. Well, you got one thing right, it was a simple calculation. I gave it exactly one sentence in my post. Certainly no major endeavor. You claimed, however, I was playing a numbers game, so I explained to you what a simple extrapolation is. But, this statement: "Since the death rate is on a steady decline, an average of past deaths/day has no relevance for future projections." Shows it must not be so simple for you. Your statement is what is irrelevant. It makes no difference if the numbers are increasing or decreasing. You take whatever data is available for any given time frame and extend them, via a simple calculation, to a longer time frame. And what about the possibility of a second wave, now that the country is opening back up again? And what about this fall and winter, if the virus comes back again? The numbers won't be decreasing in those situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsdothis Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Ridgerunner said: Because you are a pompous asshole and he is not. But he made the same calculation, so by extension you're also calling him a pompous asshole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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