Martina & Alberto - 2022 #11

[girlsfun2]

Following those last exchanges, my opinion right now on M,N,B,A:

* B lets N do what she wants with M because B knows it helps N's mental health, N's mood is more regular if she continues to see M. We all have seen those peculiar behaviors of N sometimes.  B has no doubts about the love of N. N love him so much. The price to pay for him is profitable: let his spouse live her BI adventures with a woman he already knows and knows well (M). He knows "Happy wife, happy life..." He didn't have a choice....

* N and M meet to live their intimate relationship and rather consume pot. M often comes home stoned rather than drunk when she meets with Nelly but sometimes she mixes up : stone and drunk. She tends to get rather drunk when she goes to parties with her other friends

* A, as per the agreement he has with M, accepts any adventure M may have as long as he does not witness it. A's only concerns are satisfying: a simple life, his sexual needs and getting signs of a woman's affections, the rest doesn't matter. Someday A will 'wake up' and maybe M won't be there for him....he will learn the hard way if he doesn't 'wake up' at the good time, I hope he doesn't suffer too much but life is a big school....

To all, have a great end of the weekend !! 🤗

 

 

[JenniferMom]

58 minutes ago, girlsfun2 said:

The price to pay for him is profitable: let his spouse live her BI adventures with a woman he already knows and knows well (M)

If it was just sex, then I agree, Bogdan could live with this.  But for Nelly it appears to be more.  That's why I think he's upset about this.  Telling those boys about her girlfriend that she loves very much, that was an inflection point I think.  But to your point, if this helps Nelly mentally, then maybe that is a consideration.

1 hour ago, girlsfun2 said:

He knows "Happy wife, happy life..."

This is always a good rule for guys to follow.  But I would guess someone  like Harley, who I can imagine follows this rule closely, would NOT put up with a cheating wife.  This rule is not defined to include wives that cheat.

1 hour ago, girlsfun2 said:

Someday A will 'wake up' and maybe M won't be there for him

I hope it is sooner rather than later.  Although some don't believe me, I do want N&M to succeed.  It just doesn't feel that way to me.  

[DWI]

37 minutes ago, JenniferMom said:

I thought at least in the parking lot incident, Martina told Alberto that her and Nelly fucked but she regretted it.

Now this is an interesting speculation.  So these four keep up this charade to make us think Martina and Nelly are hot and heavy.  I don't think so but honestly I would believe THIS speculation before the speculation that Martina and Nelly do not have sex anymore.

The problem with the charade theory is "how does this help RLC?".  It really only feeds the people here like me who is fascinated by this in perhaps an unhealthy way.  All of us have either subscribed or refused to subscribe because they think RLC sucks.  I don't see how this gets new subs.  Of course this could be a plot by these four to keep Martina and Alberto's click-throughs high ... but I don't think Martina needs any help with this as she is the hottest most authentic girl on RLC (in Barcelona).  I think Eva can challenge her for this based on my early viewing, so Martina may have to up her game.

If this is indeed a charade, there is a very simple way to convert this charade into new subs:   Martina, Nelly ... you need another all-night lovemaking session on cam.   That would drive some new subs for sure.  But you better keep it real.

I think Radi taking pictures of people fucking is kind of hot and I am sorry I missed it.  I understand your POV@girlsfun2 on Radi but I think Radi is in a class by herself.  She reminds me of someone like a Liberace or maybe Elton John, narcissists who are total entertainers and it's all about them.   I don't necessarily mean to imply a gay angle here but it's hard to think of someone hetero or bi who is in this category.  Perhaps Kid Rock?    Anyway, I think you just have to enjoy Radi ... I love her a lot but not in the same way that I love Martina.

Hi Jen,

     Absolutely on target here Jen. To me, a conspiracy by N,B,M and A to keep everyone guessing as to whether Martina and Nelly are still fucking off-camera hurts RLC subscriptions in the long run. Ok, dragging the suspense out for the last few months might have kept a lot of subs holding on waiting for the sexual exploits between the two on-camera to start up again, but, enough is enough...put up or shut up. If this is a charade, Martina and Nelly need to stop it, because I suspect some who have subs are getting ready to cancel if they primarily are watching RLC because of Martina. Like you I adore her and like her personality a lot...but I'm paying $45/month to watch primarily her as I am not a fan of any of the fake lesbian shows...this is where I agree with Harley's point of view. I mean if you want to watch great lesbian sex that's very well done, go to almost any free adult website and you'll find it very well done by professsional porn actresses.

      I personally was thinking of ending my sub on RLC because, believe it or not, Harley's viewpoint about everything being fake was making more and more sense to me because I saw no evidence that Martina and Nelly would ever get together on cam again due to some agreement between Bogdan, Nelly and Martina...maybe even Alberto. But then, all of a sudden, Eva arrived on the scene...and everything has changed. It's so good you have started to watch Eva and begin to undestand what many of us witnessed during the Russian years. We all need to give her some time to adhust to a new envirement as it seems clearly to me she was fleeing Russia and Putin. But, she is showing traces of the Eva from Russia. For me, just seeing her face again is enough. She remains an RLC superstar and I hope things work out for her in Barcelona or wherever she goes. Thanks for your great post and welcome aboard the Eva train.

[ddhm]

8 hours ago, yelt said:

Thanks ddhm.  

Yes, I understand they meet off camera almost every day. 

Although don't you think Bogdan would believe if his wife were meeting with her girlfriend, he knows something is happening other than just having coffee or visiting with the dog? I do not believe he is that naïve? I believe he knows, has no concerns for whatever happens if it does not happen on camera, and he too is able to receive a change oil when wanted or needed. 

If Bogdan did not know before (hard to believe), if he reads this forum (sure he and Nelly do), he now knows. And whatever his wife is revealing to him about the meetings between her, Martina, and Taco, it is most likely a lie? 

I was advised from friend’s experience, that marriage cheating situations never survive. If this all was not scripted how could Bogdan be so stupid.  It is only a matter of time for disaster if this is not scripted, unless they (Martina, Alberto, Bogdan and Nelly) are preparing new script, for a new adventure. 

I would also believe Alberto knows everything and Martina is discussing with Alberto results of their meetings and next steps, it is just not discussed on camera. 

No sex has occurred only because it has not been publicized on camera. 

If they (M, A, B, N) are leading us all to believe or to imagine what is occurring with the girl’s relationship (on the edge of your seat waiting) on or off camera, it sounds as if it is working. And in that case of RLC, they continue to win membership (more money) without paying the actors.

It is interesting to read how these actors of RLC are controlling, possibly the most discussed conversation for previous and new members of the forum. 
 

I don’t believe that it is acting , it is real life things , simply things happen . I just don’t agree having this quartet as I have said again and again because of the N&B marriage .If it was a normal relationship , I could accept lots of things .For me , personal principle , I never approach a married woman , even if I feel she’s attracted  to me , even if she comes begging she wants to have fun , there are some lines you don’t cross no  matter how it looks .For me there’s this “ don’t do to the others what you don’t want happening to you “ , so simple as that 😇

[JenniferMom]

6 hours ago, DWI said:

I mean if you want to watch great lesbian sex that's very well done, go to almost any free adult website and you'll find it very well done by professsional porn actresses.

Lesbian porn is good and definitely better than the fake shows but it does not compare to what we saw with Martina and Nelly because that was real.  

[JenniferMom]

4 hours ago, ddhm said:

For me , personal principle , I never approach a married woman , even if I feel she’s attracted  to me , even if she comes begging she wants to have fun , there are some lines you don’t cross no  matter how it looks

I am sure you are very principled and I honestly do believe you my friend.

But you have it all wrong.  You say “even if she feels attracted to me, even if she comes begging”. HA HA Don’t you fucking wish??  Spoken like a true guy (lot of women in this category too).

The issue isn’t what they feel toward you!!! The issue is what YOU feel toward them.  Suppose you meet the absolute most perfect girl in the world … someone who has it all … you can’t stop thinking about her.  She is totally amazing.  Your soulmate.  She completes you.  A Greek goddess!  Tell me how you survive that test.  Because that is the real test my friend.  I’m sure a ton of girls are attracted to a handsome Greek and you are so proud of turning them away.  I don’t care about them.  I care about the one girl that causes you to go crazy with desire and lust.  That is the true test.  

I believe you might pass that test to save your marriage.  A lot of guys are great like that.  But it will cause you years of regret.  Years of wondering “what if”.  That is what we are talking about my friend.  It’s not logical … but it comes from the heart.

 

[Pete1960]

5 hours ago, ddhm said:

For me , personal principle , I never approach a married woman , even if I feel she’s attracted  to me , even if she comes begging she wants to have fun , there are some lines you don’t cross no  matter how it looks .For me there’s this “ don’t do to the others what you don’t want happening to you “ , so simple as that 😇

Married women are open game & they are usually more discreet

[DWI]

1 hour ago, JenniferMom said:

Lesbian porn is good and definitely better than the fake shows but it does not compare to what we saw with Martina and Nelly because that was real.  

You’re certainly right about that.

[ddhm]

1 hour ago, JenniferMom said:

I am sure you are very principled and I honestly do believe you my friend.

But you have it all wrong.  You say “even if she feels attracted to me, even if she comes begging”. HA HA Don’t you fucking wish??  Spoken like a true guy (lot of women in this category too).

The issue isn’t what they feel toward you!!! The issue is what YOU feel toward them.  Suppose you meet the absolute most perfect girl in the world … someone who has it all … you can’t stop thinking about her.  She is totally amazing.  Your soulmate.  She completes you.  A Greek goddess!  Tell me how you survive that test.  Because that is the real test my friend.  I’m sure a ton of girls are attracted to a handsome Greek and you are so proud of turning them away.  I don’t care about them.  I care about the one girl that causes you to go crazy with desire and lust.  That is the true test.  

I believe you might pass that test to save your marriage.  A lot of guys are great like that.  But it will cause you years of regret.  Years of wondering “what if”.  That is what we are talking about my friend.  It’s not logical … but it comes from the heart.

 

😂🤣nice … and I hate Greek women 😝 I don’t believe that what you describe as what can may be , it is the real emotions and feelings here between Nelly and Martina . I honestly believe that Nelly has no friends in Barcelona and Martina is the only one after 3 years there . Martina therefore is the only one that she can have a chat , escape Bogdan , be with someone else .. in the meantime , she managed to satisfy her lesbian part with Martina . If Martina is the one and true love , she would have quit “ yesterday “ Bogdan , divorce him and had put a plan in motion “ how to take Martina from Alberto “ , which of course who knows , with her , it might be happening . But , I don’t believe that Martina is for Nelly this special one , I think she just LOVES her company , but how can it be different fighting her loneliness in Barcelona that she has no other friends than her ? She knows so many of the girls , why isn’t she appearing on cameras like Bogdan does at times ? And don’t tell me in the fitness room for professional things that she has done a couple of times . I think Nelly in Barcelona has only two people that she knows , Bogdan and Martina ( yes some friends of her husband maybe , Fior for example , but NOBODY to share but Martina ) . 
 

As for Martina , she has many friends ( males / females ) she can talk to , it has been mentioned that she had been searching for another lesbian adventure and she would have taken it if the occasion appeared . Most probably it hasn’t happened , the good friends that post here , they would have revealed the info I believe as long as she had shared it to Alberto . I also can’t believe then that Nelly is this ONE girl that she loves , I will say something that you might hate me 😁😛 but , I start getting slowly the impression that many times Martina meets Nelly because MAYBE , MAYBE , she feels pity for her having seen her in previous shocking situations , drugged and drunk . Of course she loves her company but I don’t think she has any deep feelings for Nelly , she cares for her and loves her / likes her as a true friend but I think many times she has the feeling of “ oh , poor Nelly , she’s alone , will make her some company “ .. As I said Nelly has no one else in Barcelona in my opinion , maybe Gina now that I think of but Martina’s company it is another  thing that she desperately needs . 
 

The regret will always hunt the thoughts at certain times but as the years pass by , if you are satisfied with the person you have chosen to share the life with , it will be fading more and more and you will be enjoying the precious company for the good and bad times , the happy and the sad moments to the one person that stood by you . As I have said , if Bogdan had shown any signs of being an asshole , I could understand Nelly insisting so much but the guy has been always ( of what we have seen on cameras ) supportive and a great guy to her . Anyway , it isn’t so easy at this period to analyze this further and in more extend as we don’t know what happens off cameras no matter what’s been discussed , the talks are one thing , but the real feelings and emotions can’t be seen unless we see it by ourselves , like we did when these two were both on cameras sharing moments .

[tle]

5 hours ago, ddhm said:

As for Martina , she has many friends ( males / females ) she can talk to , it has been mentioned that she had been searching for another lesbian adventure and she would have taken it if the occasion appeared .

I think she’s open to having another lesbian affair but she must not be looking for one too hard… If she were she would have found it by now in Barcelona on any given Saturday night….

[JenniferMom]

5 hours ago, ddhm said:

I don’t believe that what you describe as what can may be , it is the real emotions and feelings here between Nelly and Martina

 

5 hours ago, ddhm said:

if you are satisfied with the person you have chosen to share the life with , it will be fading more and more and you will be enjoying the precious company for the good and bad times , the happy and the sad moments to the one person that stood by you

Thanks @ddhm but you are deflecting.  My post was about you being high and mighty and being able to deflect all these women who come after you.  It wasn't a comment about Nelly or Martina.   

All I am trying to say is that when you find that special person, that truly special person  ... it can drive you crazy.  I agree over time, a good person will find a way to be true to their marriage and keep their soulmate in their memories and in their heart.  But I think it always gnaws at you in some way.  Most of the time it is not destructive ... but sometimes it can be.

[yelt]

17 minutes ago, JenniferMom said:

 

Thanks @ddhm but you are deflecting.  My post was about you being high and mighty and being able to deflect all these women who come after you.  It wasn't a comment about Nelly or Martina.   

All I am trying to say is that when you find that special person, that truly special person  ... it can drive you crazy.  I agree over time, a good person will find a way to be true to their marriage and keep their soulmate in their memories and in their heart.  But I think it always gnaws at you in some way.  Most of the time it is not destructive ... but sometimes it can be.

Jen, I am confused here; I much admit I am always somewhat confused with respect to relationships.  However, you have mentioned several times "Love is Blind", "Friends with Benefits" but if love is so blind and Nelly and Martina are so in love why do they continue to stall and live apart.  A lot of what @ddhm mentions makes very good, sense. 

I think Martina has found her soulmate in Alberto but wants her cake and eat it too. She will never find anyone like Alberto.  

In the case of Martina and Nelly, it is obvious here how opposite or contrary forces do not complement, interconnect, and are interdependent naturally. Above all they do not give rise to each other as they interrelate with one another. We have all witnessed some rough times. It may require another lesson learned; a hard fall caused by Nelly for Martina to realize her mistake. 

Perhaps it is Alberto who is being cautious? Only due to event that took place a few weeks ago with Martina and her friend in the spare room. He could be a lover not a gay friend. However, do you think Nelly would allow that to ensue?