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3 hours ago, ddhm said:

I don’t believe  in RLC scripts and RLC actors ..real people , 8/10 times real life things 2/10 camera shows for financial reasons .. I will use the quote of a good friend , it might be miscvoyeur or I hope he appears if he reads this “ Martina alone would skyrocket subscriptions “ as a single girl and of what we have  seen she can and she’s willing to do on cameras ..Martina became popular when she started mixing with the Russian apartments , till that time we were watching a simple , routine RLC daily life couple .. Suddenly and after her first B4 visits , everybody discovered Martina and Alberto ( when a closer look to past CC archives can easily reveal who knows almost anything for M&A life )…

 

With all due respect to Alberto , I think Martina’s life can be exploded in anything she’s willing to do and in my humble opinion the co sharing / living with him is holding her back ..On the other hand , I believe Martina can’t have a life without Alberto as any kind of relationship next to him , as I said , if Alberto at a certain point can accept that Martina can be with another man who fulfills her needs of the social life we know she enjoys , then this would be the ideal .. I just see them as soulmates in the near or further future and not as a couple that Martina will be the mama of Alberto’s child( children ) ..Bus as always , that’s my opinion 😌

Hi ddhm

The problem with your opinion is that there is more to life than a social life.  It is possible that they may not stay together for many reasons but i do not believe that Martina is that shallow that she depends only on how many times per day that she gets fucked and by a different guy each time. 

Martina and Alberto have been together for more than 10 years.  They have had many ups and downs and are still together.  The weathering of ups and downs is one of the signs of a great relationship.

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3 hours ago, philo said:

Pundits, Pundits, Pundits, all trying to explain things that they don't understand. It would be much easier if people starting seeing Martina as different from Nelly in every regard. Trying to make one responsible for the others' behavior is non-sensical. It would also help if people stopped thinking of Martina as being married to Alberto. That would make everything make a lot more sense. 

Bravo!  I think this is well said even knowing that I am probably one of the targets you had in mind when writing this!   🙂

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1 hour ago, yelt said:

I agree with much said here. Martina has learned no bounds, no shame and as we have seen what she is willing to do on camera, imagine what she has been doing off camera (still no morals).  Way too bad! I am reminded of my good friend "jman9212" who mentioned Martina worked last summer as a "Call Girl or Escort" for fast money.  With the thought of her willingness to do anything, lends proof jman may have been right. He was given a lot of bad press for his accusations; but perhaps the comments about her willingness to entertain on camera gives reason to believe she could have worked that Escort circuit with no problem. I really hope not but!

Just a thought: I think it is Alberto that helps to ground her as he can. 
 

Hi Yelt

It is so strange that you still quote your old friend Jman9212.  Why has Jman9212 not been actively commenting on his own, but uses you?  You continue to use his unfounded theory that Martina worked as a "Call Girl or Escort".

She does not do anything , anytime but you will say anything, anytime.  It is definitely not proof and has never been proven.  What is a fact is that you and Jman9212 have very strong imaginations and are willing to defame Martina whatever the cost. 

We are all voyeurs especially you and jamn9212, so whatever she does on camera is automatically extrapolated to be much worse that it really is.  Don't you see that she is trying to get out of the RLC business.  She will suceed as a professional in the tourist industry and and do a great job.  She will end up making a lot more money in that business with Alberto.

She is studying for her last exam tomorrow for this semester.  Wish her the best results and stop trying to fuck with her brain. 

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1 hour ago, philo said:

I'm watching the session between Alberto and Martina now. Martina appears to want to suck dick and be fucked at the same time. Maybe we can see that one day.

I caught most of this.  Alberto came on her and they went to the bathroom to clean up.  Then Martina went to the bed face down to masturbate.  My initial reaction at that point was "same old story" Martina needs to orgasm still.    It looked like Alberto -- with his shorts on -- started to leave the room ... and then maybe realized he shouldn't leave yet.  At that point he started to help Martina masturbate and it led to Round 2 a bit including a blow job.  So not sure if he is starting to think about her needs more ... or maybe he reads us here and is acting on our feedback ... but in the end it was a better than average performance.

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53 minutes ago, JenniferMom said:

I caught most of this.  Alberto came on her and they went to the bathroom to clean up.  Then Martina went to the bed face down to masturbate.  My initial reaction at that point was "same old story" Martina needs to orgasm still.    It looked like Alberto -- with his shorts on -- started to leave the room ... and then maybe realized he shouldn't leave yet.  At that point he started to help Martina masturbate and it led to Round 2 a bit including a blow job.  So not sure if he is starting to think about her needs more ... or maybe he reads us here and is acting on our feedback ... but in the end it was a better than average performance.

1.  No, Alberto just realised he could get his dick serviced again. 

The majority of the time, I wish Alberto would leave Martina alone and let her take care of things by herself. BUT ...noooo, Alberto has to enter the room and stand over her pulling his pud. Then, a quick pump-pump and done, shorts on, gone. Leaving Martina looking around, Wait! What?, I'm still horny. 

2.  Ya have to admit, the bar is set very low.

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2 hours ago, philo said:

I'm watching the session between Alberto and Martina now. Martina appears to want to suck dick and be fucked at the same time. Maybe we can see that one day.

So if you want to see something like that, you don't have to wait, there are enough films of this kind on the net. You will surely find something... 😉

I wonder how you know what Martina wants...are you one of these experts? 😁

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2 hours ago, Deepdave said:

Hi ddhm

The problem with your opinion is that there is more to life than a social life.  It is possible that they may not stay together for many reasons but i do not believe that Martina is that shallow that she depends only on how many times per day that she gets fucked and by a different guy each time. 

Martina and Alberto have been together for more than 10 years.  They have had many ups and downs and are still together.  The weathering of ups and downs is one of the signs of a great relationship.

I agree but I will always believe that if someone is completely satisfied with the offerings and sharing life with someone , the priority is to do things with this certain individual and not searching for friends willing to accompany her on traveling , visit other apartments , going out at nights , spend evenings sleeping in other places rather than sharing the bed with the person that you love the last 10 years . Careful , I am not saying that she shouldn’t be doing all these , hence , this is the definition of a healthy relationship , that is to be freedom and trust of anything that a couple does whenever away from one another ..But I try to count the times that Martina has done things together with Alberto apart from walking the dogs , maybe 1-2 per month an evening out together and that’s it ..

 

My personal definition of how I think healthy MY relationship is to share as many common things with my girlfriend , give her any freedom she likes to be with her friends , travel , get drunk , anything but in the end I know she comes home and sleep next to me … I would like also that she trusts me for same behaviors ..and for sure I would travel the world as much as possible with her , I would go to the movies , to a theatre , to a concert , to a weekend anywhere just for me and her and ask a friend to take care of the dogs , things like this .. I don’t know if Alberto has been sharing all these with Martina , obviously they are a happy couple and they have their own habits and routine so my preferences have nothing to do with their life .. but , they won’t always be young with the same energy like now and if they have few common interests now that they are still young , what will be keeping them interested and together when they are in their forties let’s say ? 
 

It is for sure an amazing relationship they have but I don’t know if it is for more in the future . I hope when decisions are made , they will be both out of the cameras world deciding this and having a real off cameras life with normal jobs , challenges and risks .

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4 hours ago, Deepdave said:

Hi Yelt

It is so strange that you still quote your old friend Jman9212.  Why has Jman9212 not been actively commenting on his own, but uses you?  You continue to use his unfounded theory that Martina worked as a "Call Girl or Escort".

She does not do anything , anytime but you will say anything, anytime.  It is definitely not proof and has never been proven.  What is a fact is that you and Jman9212 have very strong imaginations and are willing to defame Martina whatever the cost. 

We are all voyeurs especially you and jamn9212, so whatever she does on camera is automatically extrapolated to be much worse that it really is.  Don't you see that she is trying to get out of the RLC business.  She will suceed as a professional in the tourist industry and and do a great job.  She will end up making a lot more money in that business with Alberto.

She is studying for her last exam tomorrow for this semester.  Wish her the best results and stop trying to fuck with her brain. 

Normally, I would not respond and let you have your say and move on; Nevertheless, our opinion (right or wrong) is our opinion, based on the occurrences seen on RLC, conversations heard, arrangements made with an older lady on the phone throughout the days. Can you without a doubt prove the times where Martina was going dressed up, made up, leaving for 2 or 3 hours at a time daily for a couple of months. You can only comment about how she and Alberto have been together for years, that alone speaks to trust and love. I do not believe that is all you need for love and trust..time in years together. She spends most of her free time and activities as I have already mentioned with her friends and other males without Alberto.

I do not remember you or the translators saying Martina had a job and was working the summer that required her to come and go as she did. I do remember after one of her outings the one time she rushed in the door to the kitchen outside of the bathroom talking to an older sounding lady, the same one she was having frequent conversations about something that had happen on her adventure.

At present I am not the voyeurs you suggest and have enlisted friends to keep me abreast. I understand the situation with Martina, isn't she on a voyeur site. . in plain view of thousands with access to RLC and she has shown them what she is willing to do and has done perhaps more than any other RLC participant (but I guess you had your eyes closed). 

And how does the sexual activity we have all seen, with Nelly and Alberto on camera concluded too less than what is seen? 

She appears to be a nice intelligent lady, that could use some guidance other than those she may be using, and I truly hope when school has been completed, she is successful in the profession of her choice. At the same time, I believe she is responsible for what she does, and her morals need a compass.  She no longer has to be embarrassed by Alberto without a job, so will she encourage him to go out with her, I hope so.  But I also wonder what she tells her friends when visiting, about the cameras in her apartment? 

I am always hopeful; she finally comes to realize what she is doing. I may be one of the few on the forum that would/could compensation Martina and Alberto to walk away from RLC, stop this spiral and live the life they would like, giving each other a chance at normalcy: @Deepdavewould you as well?  However, I don’t believe Martina could live the normal social life with a good man and her pansexuality and be happy.

Martina should not be reading this forum, but "Good Luck" on the semester final. 

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When Martina finishes up her studies and gets a job working in her field of tourism, do you think her desires and needs to socialize will then be satisfied with a fulfilling career meeting and interacting with many different people each day, or will she still feel the urge to dance and party with her friends all night on the weekends?

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The relationship between Martina and Alberto:
* The majority of us feel that the relationship between Alberto and Martina is a FWB one and that ok
* I would add a component of one-way swingers because Martina is the one who practices it, that explains everything we see, what do you think?

The relationship between Martina and Bogdan:
* I reviewed the videos of an old party and you can see Bogdan and Martina dancing against each other and kissing passionately on the mouth and Bogdan caressing with his hands Martina from her head to her lower body and afterwards, tells Martina to go to Nelly, she is 'available'. I am a woman and if I accept that a man kisses me in this way and that he caresses me gently like this, no doubt, he wants to have me in his bed OR if I want to obtain his authorization to go to bed with his wife, I will be able to allow him that he can kisses me and touches me in this way? In my opinion, this is exactly what Martina was willing to do to get access to Nelly and let's not forget, Bogdan is in the RLC organization and Martina know how to play her card. And later when Bogdan told Martina that the relationship with Nelly had to end, we understand that Martina felt betrayed for letting Bogdan take advantage of her person and body to gain access to Nelly. To me, Martina did, over time, made 'oil change' for Bogdan more then one time to make sure that she can have access to 'wife' Nelly without problem.

And a funny story:
* I'm listening to Eric Clapton's song "I Can't Stand It" and the lyrics could be what Alberto thinks of Martina. Here are some lyrics:

You've been told, so maybe it's time that you learned
You've been sold, maybe it's time that you earned
You're fooling around, I can't stand it
You're running around, I can't stand it
You're fooling around with my heart

I'll explain, I feel like i'm being used
Make it plain, so you don't get confused

You have fun with my heart
It's time, time for me to let you know
It's not a crime, not a crime to let your feelings show
I can't stand it

 

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7 hours ago, yelt said:

Normally, I would not respond and let you have your say and move on; Nevertheless, our opinion (right or wrong) is our opinion, based on the occurrences seen on RLC, conversations heard, arrangements made with an older lady on the phone throughout the days. Can you without a doubt prove the times where Martina was going dressed up, made up, leaving for 2 or 3 hours at a time daily for a couple of months. You can only comment about how she and Alberto have been together for years, that alone speaks to trust and love. I do not believe that is all you need for love and trust..time in years together. She spends most of her free time and activities as I have already mentioned with her friends and other males without Alberto.

I do not remember you or the translators saying Martina had a job and was working the summer that required her to come and go as she did. I do remember after one of her outings the one time she rushed in the door to the kitchen outside of the bathroom talking to an older sounding lady, the same one she was having frequent conversations about something that had happen on her adventure.

At present I am not the voyeurs you suggest and have enlisted friends to keep me abreast. I understand the situation with Martina, isn't she on a voyeur site. . in plain view of thousands with access to RLC and she has shown them what she is willing to do and has done perhaps more than any other RLC participant (but I guess you had your eyes closed). 

And how does the sexual activity we have all seen, with Nelly and Alberto on camera concluded too less than what is seen? 

She appears to be a nice intelligent lady, that could use some guidance other than those she may be using, and I truly hope when school has been completed, she is successful in the profession of her choice. At the same time, I believe she is responsible for what she does, and her morals need a compass.  She no longer has to be embarrassed by Alberto without a job, so will she encourage him to go out with her, I hope so.  But I also wonder what she tells her friends when visiting, about the cameras in her apartment? 

I am always hopeful; she finally comes to realize what she is doing. I may be one of the few on the forum that would/could compensation Martina and Alberto to walk away from RLC, stop this spiral and live the life they would like, giving each other a chance at normalcy: @Deepdavewould you as well?  However, I don’t believe Martina could live the normal social life with a good man and her pansexuality and be happy.

Martina should not be reading this forum, but "Good Luck" on the semester final. 

Speaking of little ethics and morals, here we have yelt and jman again spreading lies, false testimonies and slander about this couple.

When multiple times they have been asked for proof, a timestamp, a transcript that would support their infamies, they have never been able to provide it. Simply because they do not exist, these are simple and plain lies whose only objective is to harm them.

No, Martina has never worked as a prostitute, and the fact that you can't explain her having phone calls and leaving the house just means that jman doesn't understand her language, and you don't have an RLC subscription.

Please, respect the tenants as the forum rules say, and from now on don't spread tremendous lies that you can't support with facts, with the sole purpose of hurting them.

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