alt0na_O7 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 43 minutes ago, waldi said: So where is RLC in your opinion? According to Alexa rlc should be first, on the leading position, but if Alexa "estimates" the traffic instead of measure it, rlc could be below the camarads lol. who is on the top then? in fact, it can be any of the sites, and the whole idea named Alexa can be scrapped, but I don't think it's like you say and basically, it shows all trends correctly. Probably some fluctuations in measurements are acceptable and there's a margin of error, but I do believe that main trend that we see on the graph is shown correctly and vhtv is falling down I think most of the real voyeurists are leaving VH TV. the remaining young masturbators may be bored to see the same thing all the time. bad houses, silly camera layouts, participants away from innovation, high prices, usual and repulsive group sex parties ... (Please don't me say "you don't have to watch".. I know it and watch 70% less than before.) 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, alt0na_O7 said: I think most of the real voyeurists are leaving VH TV. the remaining young masturbators may be bored to see the same thing all the time. bad houses, silly camera layouts, participants away from innovation, high prices, usual and repulsive group sex parties ... though I'm not a "young masturbator" (?) lol, I fully agree with your opinion; bad quality is the most effective way to repel potential subscribers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miscvoyeur Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 38 minutes ago, alt0na_O7 said: I think most of the real voyeurists are leaving VH TV. the remaining young masturbators may be bored to see the same thing all the time. I think that's only partially it. VH tried but in the end, they catered themselves to an audience that can't and won't sustain it, and that's the porn fiends. With the way they advertise on twitter, they try to appeal to that demographic and so they get the audience that expects cam show style sex 24 hours a day, while flooding the site with apartment after apartment. But here's the problem: even orgies/group sex gets tiresome when you see them enough times, and too much of that will turn off the "voyeurs" who aren't into that. And then the porn fiends will get turned off when they realize that the tenants aren't cam star professional porn actors who are going to fuck 24 hours a day. Couple that with a horrible pay system that's based solely on views, despite the fact that it's near impossible for any couple to keep or maintain a steady audience and so most people leave after only a few months, which only discourages viewers from wanting to invest any sort of time into a couple because chances are they'll be gone in a few months anyway. VH is only a little over 2 years old and have had a total of 120 apartments/couples/tenants... which is absurd enough as is. Now how many of them have actually stayed longer than 6 months? I'll give you a hint: it ain't a lot... The other half is just having a poor site that never gets updated and a completely shitty archive system. It really is no surprise that VH is doing bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 hours ago, waldi said: So where is RLC in your opinion? According to Alexa rlc should be first, on the leading position, but if Alexa "estimates" the traffic instead of measure it, rlc could be below the camarads lol. who is on the top then? in fact, it can be any of the sites, and the whole idea named Alexa can be scrapped, but I don't think it's like you say and basically, it shows all trends correctly. Probably some fluctuations in measurements are acceptable and there's a margin of error, but I do believe that main trend that we see on the graph is shown correctly and vhtv is falling down I don't know where RLC is and I don't really care where they are. They don't interested me at all. About the Alexa ratings I already posted a lot of information here. Basically they don't interest me at all too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 47 minutes ago, miscvoyeur said: I think that's only partially it. VH tried but in the end, they catered themselves to an audience that can't and won't sustain it, and that's the porn fiends. With the way they advertise on twitter, they try to appeal to that demographic and so they get the audience that expects cam show style sex 24 hours a day, while flooding the site with apartment after apartment. But here's the problem: even orgies/group sex gets tiresome when you see them enough times, and too much of that will turn off the "voyeurs" who aren't into that. And then the porn fiends will get turned off when they realize that the tenants aren't cam star professional porn actors who are going to fuck 24 hours a day. Couple that with a horrible pay system that's based solely on views, despite the fact that it's near impossible for any couple to keep or maintain a steady audience and so most people leave after only a few months, which only discourages viewers from wanting to invest any sort of time into a couple because chances are they'll be gone in a few months anyway. VH is only a little over 2 years old and have had a total of 120 apartments/couples/tenants... which is absurd enough as is. Now how many of them have actually stayed longer than 6 months? I'll give you a hint: it ain't a lot... The other half is just having a poor site that never gets updated and a completely shitty archive system. It really is no surprise that VH is doing bad. So what do you suggest? Really interests me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nack Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 55 minutes ago, miscvoyeur said: I think that's only partially it. VH tried but in the end, they catered themselves to an audience that can't and won't sustain it, and that's the porn fiends. With the way they advertise on twitter, they try to appeal to that demographic and so they get the audience that expects cam show style sex 24 hours a day, while flooding the site with apartment after apartment. But here's the problem: even orgies/group sex gets tiresome when you see them enough times, and too much of that will turn off the "voyeurs" who aren't into that. And then the porn fiends will get turned off when they realize that the tenants aren't cam star professional porn actors who are going to fuck 24 hours a day. Couple that with a horrible pay system that's based solely on views, despite the fact that it's near impossible for any couple to keep or maintain a steady audience and so most people leave after only a few months, which only discourages viewers from wanting to invest any sort of time into a couple because chances are they'll be gone in a few months anyway. VH is only a little over 2 years old and have had a total of 120 apartments/couples/tenants... which is absurd enough as is. Now how many of them have actually stayed longer than 6 months? I'll give you a hint: it ain't a lot... The other half is just having a poor site that never gets updated and a completely shitty archive system. It really is no surprise that VH is doing bad. Absolutely fucking hate this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 vhtv should at last decide what they want to be - pure voyeur site or porn site. If you had looked at the twitter for the first time, you would have irresistible impression that vhtv is a porn site with action live. After buying subscription, disappointment is huge as the website isn't exactly like subscriber did expect it will be ; cams and lighting are rubbish, plus, good participants in a very few places, all that make many people resign after a while; 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robwin Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 40 minutes ago, jabbath1987 said: So what do you suggest? Really interests me. To be honest i have no idea what the answer is but the current system of flooding VH with apartments which is so overwhelming you just can't keep tabs on everyone. Everyone then just goes flat out for the first month to attract views with sex in every position almost every hour lol. No one can keep up that pace and so one by one they fall by the wayside being replaced by new tenants who go through the same boring process. Most people now when they log on are continually chasing sex through every apartment which is an almost impossible task so I just gave up and stopped subscribing as it just became so boring. Coupled with the fact that tenants are having their VH share of earnings being cut by managers and sub managers it just becomes not worth their while and effort and so they give up. As I can mainly only see kitchens now lol when I look on CC what do I see in every post? The same sex and actions in almost every posted image only the faces vary lol.zzzzzzzzz. Do I miss it? Not one little bit and I save myself a decent chunk of money as well. But I do like the chats on CC so will continue to be on here every so often and try and keep up to date with the never ending merry go round of apartments and also helping to annoy every other perv on here 😎. Have a good day guys and gals and keep glued to those screens watching the same crap over and over and over 😁😁🤣 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, miscvoyeur said: VH tried but in the end, they catered themselves to an audience that can't and won't sustain it, and that's the porn fiends. With the way they advertise on twitter, they try to appeal to that demographic and so they get the audience that expects cam show style sex 24 hours a day, while flooding the site with apartment after apartment. But here's the problem: even orgies/group sex gets tiresome when you see them enough times, and too much of that will turn off the "voyeurs" who aren't into that. And then the porn fiends will get turned off when they realize that the tenants aren't cam star professional porn actors who are going to fuck 24 hours a day. I agree with that; they should at least stop that stupid advertising campaign on twitter; at the moment vhtv is far from high quality porn and so called real voyeurs don't want to watch it either; it's time for them to make a decision which way to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, Robwin said: To be honest i have no idea what the answer is but the current system of flooding VH with apartments which is so overwhelming you just can't keep tabs on everyone. Everyone then just goes flat out for the first month to attract views with sex in every position almost every hour lol. No one can keep up that pace and so one by one they fall by the wayside being replaced by new tenants who go through the same boring process. Most people now when they log on are continually chasing sex through every apartment which is an almost impossible task so I just gave up and stopped subscribing as it just became so boring. Coupled with the fact that tenants are having their VH share of earnings being cut by managers and sub managers it just becomes not worth their while and effort and so they give up. As I can mainly only see kitchens now lol when I look on CC what do I see in every post? The same sex and actions in almost every posted image only the faces vary lol.zzzzzzzzz. Do I miss it? Not one little bit and I save myself a decent chunk of money as well. But I do like the chats on CC so will continue to be on here every so often and try and keep up to date with the never ending merry go round of apartments and also helping to annoy every other perv on here 😎. Have a good day guys and gals and keep glued to those screens watching the same crap over and over and over 😁😁🤣 So what do you suggest? You really complain about too much action and sex? What do you want to see? We have the timeline to follow the things we missed. So talking about me I won't complain about too much action. And when there are too much places for your liking you don't have to watch them all. But it's good to have a variety to pick from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbath1987 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, waldi said: I agree with that; they should at least stop that stupid advertising campaign on twitter; at the moment vhtv is far from high quality porn and so called real voyeurs don't want to watch it either; it's time for them to make a decision which way to go They should never try to deliver high quality porn because there are thousands of sites like this. And people only interested in porn are not loyal subscribers at all as you can see when you read the comments of the only porn interested people in here. So VH should not try to cater to their wishes as they will leave when there is anything better in their opinion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldi Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, jabbath1987 said: They should never try to deliver high quality porn because there are thousands of sites like this. So slump will continue, as everything they advertise is just porn. The problem is, it's very low quality porn; 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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